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#31 goalie13

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 08:02 AM

He signed a ENTRY LEVEL CONTRACT which is a TWO WAY CONTRACT and is no guarantee of ice time infact it is no guarantee of even making the NHL club.


I'm hoping you know that a two-way contract has nothing to do with waivers and only has to do with the players rate of pay at the different levels. A one-way contract is also no guarantee of ice time.
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Posted 05 June 2013 - 08:04 AM

No :picard: this is just an excuse for you to bash Gillis

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 08:06 AM

No :picard: this is just an excuse for you to bash Gillis

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I think he finally gave up.
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Posted 05 June 2013 - 08:07 AM

I'm hoping you know that a two-way contract has nothing to do with waivers and only has to do with the players rate of pay at the different levels. A one-way contract is also no guarantee of ice time.


I think it's pretty clear he had no idea of what you just said.
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Posted 05 June 2013 - 08:10 AM

Oh, that Gillis. Terrible isn't he? Don't feel so bad, Detroit was interested in this monster D-man too. So if Ken Holland got out-GM'd, our poor Mike didn't stand a chance.
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Posted 05 June 2013 - 08:12 AM

Canucks GM Gillis was 1 of 7 GMs trying to sign KHL Russian defenceman Anton Below. The six-foot-four 220 pound 26 year old defenceman has drawn a lot of NHL attention this season with his punishing defencive play, plus-19, 9 goals, 17 assists in 46 KHL games. Anton Below told reporters he had narrowed his list of NHL teams to 7 and was waiting for the KHL season to end before picking announcing his chosen team. Gillis had Contacted the monster Russian defencemans agent only once back in February while other team GMs had contacted Anton directly. Edmonton Oilers GM had talked to the Russian defenceman numerous times and actually took the time to arrange a conversation between Anton Below and Nail Yakupov which to me doesn't seem like a bunch of effort especially when we are talking about a cheap entry level contract player that is already playing in a PRO hockey league. Entry level contract equals a small safe contract which should be extremely important to a team close to a inflated salary cap. Guess what folks he signed with the Edmonton Oilers not us! I know it must seem like a small deal to most of us but these situations are adding up quickly. I'm getting tired of being out played on the ice now we are constantly getting out GM'd off the ice too.


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Posted 05 June 2013 - 08:14 AM

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 08:17 AM

Think about it. Young kid could choose to go somewhere where he can learn the NHL game while expectations are lower, or, go somewhere and have to learn the NHL with the added preassure of a winning NHL market. I don't think it is any coincidence why young kids are signing with EDM. It's a good place to START their NHL careers.
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Posted 05 June 2013 - 08:24 AM

Remember that thread where KingoftheES said the canucks wouldn't make the playoffs and implied the Flames were going to be so much better than us.

But the Flames might be better than us one day...you never know what 2024 will bring.

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 08:25 AM

Why would a young defenceman want to sign with a team that already has an established starting 6 for possibly 4 years. He would have to HEAVILY compete with Tanev and Corrado for a spot on the roster. I'm not surprised he went to a place that needs him and gives him a better chance of not only actually playing, but being an impact player and establishing a name for himself.
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Posted 05 June 2013 - 08:27 AM

Then he turns into another Brunnstrom and everyone is like: omg, gillis, yer an id1ot.
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Posted 05 June 2013 - 08:40 AM

Canucks GM Gillis was 1 of 7 GMs trying to sign KHL Russian defenceman Anton Below. The six-foot-four 220 pound 26 year old defenceman has drawn a lot of NHL attention this season with his punishing defencive play, plus-19, 9 goals, 17 assists in 46 KHL games. Anton Below told reporters he had narrowed his list of NHL teams to 7 and was waiting for the KHL season to end before picking announcing his chosen team. Gillis had Contacted the monster Russian defencemans agent only once back in February while other team GMs had contacted Anton directly. Edmonton Oilers GM had talked to the Russian defenceman numerous times and actually took the time to arrange a conversation between Anton Below and Nail Yakupov which to me doesn't seem like a bunch of effort especially when we are talking about a cheap entry level contract player that is already playing in a PRO hockey league. Entry level contract equals a small safe contract which should be extremely important to a team close to a inflated salary cap. Guess what folks he signed with the Edmonton Oilers not us! I know it must seem like a small deal to most of us but these situations are adding up quickly. I'm getting tired of being out played on the ice now we are constantly getting out GM'd off the ice too.


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Posted 05 June 2013 - 08:41 AM

Have to love how the so called "first-line" and "all-star" stus guys on here constantly shoot down comments from newer FELLOW fans. You guys come accross as flippant and arrogant as Mike Gillis....your hero.

Mike Gillis is incompetant...period. He is unqualified and has ZERO track record of success or respect around the league. He has done NOTHING for this team since he inherited it and in fact, just the opposite....he has been slowly destroying it. I can list all his screwups but that has been done already several times in several topics.

I swear he is one here writing the responses to people that question his ability.

Now in this example, like it it or not the Canucks showed interest and then dropped the ball. That is bad management....period. They say the coach is responsible for the play on the ice well then surely the GM is RESPONSIBLE for the management off the ice. The buck stops with Gillis.

Fire him already and lets all move on as Canucks fans.

All I want is a Cup before I die and I will NEVER get one with Gillis at the helm.

Edited by canuck2288, 05 June 2013 - 08:53 AM.

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 08:43 AM

SO ..we have 4 NTC dmen, and another two under contract and at the very least Tanev is an RFA who will be signed to stay with us and so you want this KHL kid on an entry level deal for why?

Defense and goaltending is not our issue. Gillis took a quick shot without expending too much because not only do we not need him, we dont have a russian superstar to drop by his rink in Russia and say hi.
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Posted 05 June 2013 - 08:47 AM

No offense, but if I were a young defenseman being looked at from 7 teams, one being Edmonton, I'd take them too. You will at least get a few games in with them, because their defense sucks. And because you will be playing with top offensive players like Eberle, Hall, RNH, Yakupov, and Hemsky, you are bound to pad your stats, making your next contract that much better.
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Posted 05 June 2013 - 08:47 AM

All I want is a Cup before I die and I will NEVER get one with Gillis at the helm.


as evidenced by a stanley cup game final game 7 appearance a couple years ago, in fact i think it was around 725 days ago, more or less..you know, one of only 3 such appearances in team history.

I promised i would never do this but... :picard: :sadno: :sick:
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Posted 05 June 2013 - 08:49 AM

Have to love how the so called "first-line" and "all-star" stus guys on here constantly shoot down comments from newer FELLOW fans. You guys come accross as flippant and arrogant as Mike Gillis....your hero.

Mike Gillis is a incompetant...period. He is unqualified and has ZERO track record of success or respect around the league. He has done NOTHING for this team since he inherited it and in fact, just the opposite....he has been slowly destroying it. I can list all his screwups but that has been done already several times in several topics.

I swear he is one here writing the responses to people that question his ability.

Now in this example, like it it or not the Canucks showed interest and then dropped the ball. That is bad management....period. They say the coach is responsible for the play on the ice well then surely the GM is RESPONSIBLE for the management off the ice. The buck stops with Gillis.

Fire him already and lets all move on as Canucks fans.

All I want is a Cup before I die and I will NEVER get one with Gillis at the helm.

Youre right! it amazes me how many fans quickly jump to his defence and expect no explanation for his fumbles. This topic is about 2 of his many mistakes and I for one would like him to try harder to improve this teams( canucks and wolves). youth is our future lets expand our sites
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Posted 05 June 2013 - 08:52 AM

In a weird way, I think Henrik Tommernes may be a sleeper that will jump into Canuck fans minds in a year or two, and I am guessing most of you readers have never heard of him.
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Posted 05 June 2013 - 08:54 AM

Youre right! it amazes me how many fans quickly jump to his defence and expect no explanation for his fumbles. This topic is about 2 of his many mistakes and I for one would like him to try harder to improve this teams( canucks and wolves). youth is our future lets expand our sites

I don't blindly defend MG, he has made mistakes as any human being will and does, but I disagree with the theory the OP puts forth in the thread that "Random entry level player was not signed by MG after MG kicked his tires, therefore MG has made a god-awefull mistake"
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Posted 05 June 2013 - 08:56 AM

Edmonton signing another kid is not going to help them. That's why they're still at the bottom of the league. They need veteran leadership to stabilize the young core or they will continue to be all flash and no structure.


well he's no vetran, at 26 I don't know if we can call this guy a 'kid'. He's only a year younger than Edler.
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Posted 05 June 2013 - 08:59 AM

Youre right! it amazes me how many fans quickly jump to his defence and expect no explanation for his fumbles. This topic is about 2 of his many mistakes and I for one would like him to try harder to improve this teams( canucks and wolves). youth is our future lets expand our sites


Just because a player didn't choose us doesn't mean it's a mistake.

The thing about Russians is they stick together, we haven't had a Russian here since Bure. We had no chance signing this guy, move on.

MG has had many mistakes, he's done some good things too, he hasn't yet put his stamp on this team, he should be given that chance. If he doesn't do it this year, he needs to be fired.
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Posted 05 June 2013 - 09:00 AM

Stupidity quota for the day ... CHECK

Now someone start an Edler thread and we're good to go.

I love how guys are bashing Gillis on here and then they show they know nothing about basic hockey and team structure. Our defence is logjammed and they're worried because we didn't sign some punk ass Ruskie that's going to amount to nothing.

There is a reason this guy is 26 and no one has ever heard of him. A far cry from playing college hockey and then all of the sudden being draft eligble at 22.

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 09:00 AM

Have to love how the so called "first-line" and "all-star" stus guys on here constantly shoot down comments from newer FELLOW fans. You guys come accross as flippant and arrogant as Mike Gillis....your hero.


If you show up here ranting and raving, creating a bunch of dumb threads and and acting like a douche, people will inevitably treat you like one.
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Posted 05 June 2013 - 09:03 AM

Have to love how the so called "first-line" and "all-star" stus guys on here constantly shoot down comments from newer FELLOW fans. You guys come accross as flippant and arrogant as Mike Gillis....your hero.

Mike Gillis is incompetant...period. He is unqualified and has ZERO track record of success or respect around the league. He has done NOTHING for this team since he inherited it and in fact, just the opposite....he has been slowly destroying it. I can list all his screwups but that has been done already several times in several topics.

I swear he is one here writing the responses to people that question his ability.

Now in this example, like it it or not the Canucks showed interest and then dropped the ball. That is bad management....period. They say the coach is responsible for the play on the ice well then surely the GM is RESPONSIBLE for the management off the ice. The buck stops with Gillis.

Fire him already and lets all move on as Canucks fans.

All I want is a Cup before I die and I will NEVER get one with Gillis at the helm.


You and the OP are peas in a nutbar pod...

Let's think about this logically shall we? If I'm a young, Russian d-man looking to break in to the NHL...what look more attractive? A young up and coming team with less pressure, more opportunity for ice time, a fellow Russian already playing there and a core of talented young players... Or a team with a pretty well established top 6 D (heck even 7 with Alberts if he re-signs), a crap ton of pressure to win now, likelihood of little to no ice time at the NHL level, no Russians.

It's not a matter of being out GM'd (which as pointed out, 28 other teams also were if we follow this idiotic line of thinking). It's a matter of two teams being in entirely different situations in their competitive life cycles if you will.
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Posted 05 June 2013 - 09:04 AM

7 Teams vying for 1 player from the KHL and a larger ice surface...Canucks don't land him, must be GIlli's fault. 5 major NCAA players available, Canucks running for Ondrej...he goes to Tampa, 29 other teams failed miserably. Canucks 1 of 3 teams Schultz wanted into...went with Edmonton. You blame this all directly on Gillis with NO other possible reason which is just foolis. Ice time, countrymen, youth, and most importantly for these kids...fans EXPECTATIONS. Gillis didn't get out GM'd, he was one of 7 finalists who lost out on an untested kid, who if you look even at the league minimum we couldn't have afforded to sign anyways until we move some cap around. Gillis isn't the greatest GM, he does silly things we get it. But come on man, you can actually point out real reasons why he's not the guy people prop him up to be without resorting to threads making it look like it was a Lindros situation that Gillis pulled
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CIaude Giroux Posted 27 June 2014 - 04:15 PM


He's out for 6 months (which will hinder his development) and he really needs that development. There's already worries that he won't translate to the NHL and he'll end up a huge ass bust.

 

 


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Posted 05 June 2013 - 09:07 AM

Just because a player didn't choose us doesn't mean it's a mistake.

The thing about Russians is they stick together, we haven't had a Russian here since Bure. We had no chance signing this guy, move on.

MG has had many mistakes, he's done some good things too, he hasn't yet put his stamp on this team, he should be given that chance. If he doesn't do it this year, he needs to be fired.

Agreed, just because we don't sign a guy we couldn't afford at the league minimum on a 2 way contract apparently it's the end of the world. I forgot, which teams fans are we again? Canucks or Leafs....because out of all my hockey loving friends this sound more like a rabid Leafs fan rant than a concerned Canucks fans post. Also added, we did have Artem Chubarov for a while from USSR/Russia
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CIaude Giroux Posted 27 June 2014 - 04:15 PM


He's out for 6 months (which will hinder his development) and he really needs that development. There's already worries that he won't translate to the NHL and he'll end up a huge ass bust.

 

 


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Posted 05 June 2013 - 09:12 AM

Agreed, just because we don't sign a guy we couldn't afford at the league minimum on a 2 way contract apparently it's the end of the world. I forgot, which teams fans are we again? Canucks or Leafs....because out of all my hockey loving friends this sound more like a rabid Leafs fan rant than a concerned Canucks fans post. Also added, we did have Artem Chubarov for a while from USSR/Russia


Yea I remember Chubarov I just wasn't sure if he was after Bure or at the same time, looks like he was after
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Posted 05 June 2013 - 09:16 AM

Oh my god Gillis didn't sign a player who is likely a #5 D on our team. Gillis is a failure somebody fire him before we lose out on a 4th line winger too!

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 09:16 AM

7 GM's tried 6 failed. Therefore 6 got out-GM'd. Is that what you're saying?

Seriously a kid has a much better chance at playing on the Oilers than the Canucks with the D-men we have. And he doesn't have to deal with Vancouver 'fans' which is amazingly bad when something goes wrong (even the slighest thing not a young kid choosing an opposition - when it's his decision to begin with!). When something goes right they are great. We looked good back in 2011 and the fans were excited, now every loss is about who is next to leave the team and how we can bring an all-star team while trading our 'scraps'.


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Posted 05 June 2013 - 09:19 AM

Edmonton signing another kid is not going to help them.


Corrado and Tanev ain't exactly lighting up the lamp for us,either.
Neither are Kassian or Schroeder.
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