oldnews Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 Even dumber than Garth Snow's offer to Columbus last year. At least Snow had a deep prospect pool and was looking for a particular defenseman to complement it. Feaster has more holes than a golf course. He keeps getting lucky with Colorado rejections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanKeslord17 Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 CGY just never wants to do the more predictable, easy way of doing things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baercheese Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 Lol, and that's guaranteed right? Sorry but you're a blind homer if you think that's a good move. If Calgary knew how to use their picks wisely, they could have 3 really solid young players. Or even trade up one spot and get a player who will be as good if not better than Mackinnon. So essentially you could have: Barkov/Nichushkin + Monahan/Domi + Mantha/Gauthier + Rychel/Klimchuk Or Mackinnon But keep drinking Feaster's kool aid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DeNiro Posted June 16, 2013 Author Share Posted June 16, 2013 and to get a top 5 pick obviously we don't need to give up any other pick lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baercheese Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 Already edited. Obviously they would have to give up their 6th and something like a 2nd or 3rd to move up. Good job trying to go off track though. Keep trying to convince yourself this wasn't an idiotic offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted June 16, 2013 Author Share Posted June 16, 2013 don't have a 2nd, and if we're trading the 6th overall, why not go for the #1 that can step into the NHL rightaway like Nate? Whereas Barkov has military service, another year in SEL for Lindholm, OHL for Monahan? and clearly Colorado values the #1 LOTS for a reason, rejected two big known offers already. Not hard to grasp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baercheese Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 There's nothing saying it would have to be this years. You would have to add alot to that 6th overall pick to get the first overall, based on what was rejected from Buffalo. Whereas Carolina is rumored to be willing to give up their 5th overall, and it would take much less for a player who is arguabley good enough to go top 3 (Nichushkin). He's also good enough to step into the NHL right away from the scouting reports I've read. Also, not that hard to grasp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkstar Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 This is the equivalent of 2008: Stamkos (1) for Filatov (6) + Eberle (22) + Tikhonov (28) 2009: Tavares (1) for OEL (6) + Schroeder (22) + Olsen (28) 2010: Hall (1) for Connolly (6) + Tinordi (22) + Coyle (28) 2011: RNH (1) for Zibanejad (6) + Biggs (22) + Philips (28) 2012: Yakupov (1) for Lindholm (6) + Maatta (22) + Skjei (28) None of the teams with the first overall pick those years would have made a good deal by trading for that package. Great trade for Calgary, not so great for the Avs. Potential goes a long way in the NHL, and MacKinnon has tons of it. He is a bonafide superstar that can be the face of the franchise for the next decade. It's a risk that most teams have to take especially since there hasn't been many busts at 1st pick since the 04/05 lockout. Calgary doesn't need depth prospects, they need a guy who can be the next franchise player and a first line centre, a hole that they've had for what seems like forever. They need to add more for Colorado to bite though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCanuck Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 Stupid offer by Calgary. I'd rather build around 3 Kesler type players than one Henrik Sedin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 Colorado apparently turned down Miller, Grigorenko, the 8th overall and a defensive prospect for the 1st overall too. They're getting some absurd calls right now but maybe the Avs are just going to sit on this, get greedier and wait for even bigger proposals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted June 16, 2013 Author Share Posted June 16, 2013 #1 need for the Flames is that first line center(Nate) and it's been that for years. How would drafting Nichushkin address that issue? Classic example of having no clue what he's talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 Quality over quantity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baercheese Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 What you mean Jankowski isn't your future number 1 center? The Flames need more than just a first line center. They have more holes then they have positions that are filled. Why would they pass up a chance to get an elite winger, and a couple of solid 2nd or 3rd line wingers, for 1 player? This is the best chance for them to fill multiple holes, not just one. They should be planning to be a basement team for the next couple years at least, so a center can be drafted in next years draft, or the draft after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkstar Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 Jankowski was a project pick that has all the tools to be a top center, size, speed, and skills. The concern was that he was facing lower-tier competition. http://www.thehockey...-NHL-draft.html A year later NHL scouts still see him as a first rounder. Guess you know more than them huh? And to get a first line center that has massive potential, which is out most important need, or two late firsts that MIGHT pan out. I wonder.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaches Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 Jankowski was a project pick that has all the tools to be a top center, size, speed, and skills. The concern was that he was facing lower-tier competition. http://www.thehockey...-NHL-draft.html A year later NHL scouts still see him as a first rounder. Guess you know more than them huh? And to get a first line center that has massive potential, which is out most important need, or two late firsts that MIGHT pan out. I wonder.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted June 16, 2013 Author Share Posted June 16, 2013 This is the equivalent of 2008: Stamkos (1) for Filatov (6) + Eberle (22) + Tikhonov (28) 2009: Tavares (1) for OEL (6) + Schroeder (22) + Olsen (28) 2010: Hall (1) for Connolly (6) + Tinordi (22) + Coyle (28) 2011: RNH (1) for Zibanejad (6) + Biggs (22) + Philips (28) 2012: Yakupov (1) for Lindholm (6) + Maatta (22) + Skjei (28) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 Quality over quantity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baercheese Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 ^a guy that wouldn't take a center that can score 50 year in and year out over three solid players. 'nuff said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkstar Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 Your assuming that a team would pick the exact same players that 3 different teams picked though. A team with 3 1st round picks would pick based on their needs, which likely wouldn't have been the same as those selections. It could just as easily be: Stamkos for Hodgson, Eberle, and Markstrom/Voynov Or Tavares for OEL, Johansson, and O'reilly Or Hall for Skinner, Tinordi, and Etem Or RNH for Couturier, Morrow, Jensen Or Yakupov for Trouba, Subban, and Gaunce Since this draft is supposed to be quite deep, it is likely to be close to the 2008 draft. Stamkos is an amazing player, but is he worth Hodgson, Eberle, and Voynov? I know Stamkos fanboys would say yes, but I'm not sure I would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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