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#1 cmpunk

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Posted 19 June 2013 - 01:23 PM

Pierre Lebrun was on the team 1040 and said he spoke to one GM who he would not name, and said he is very interested in Luongo. But not his contract and he is hoping the Canucks buy him out so he could sign him right away.

So this situation is interesting. MG is not going to get the deal he wants now for Lu for sure, and if he does happen to pull a trade but keeping some of Lu's salary, it will be the best case scenario now. But what do you think Lu would get signed for say the Canucks buy him out because a lot of teams will jump on him. And Pierre also mentioned he thinks Luongo is the best goalie out of all of the ones available.
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Posted 19 June 2013 - 01:24 PM

Well then we would need to arrange a deal so that we retain a certain percentage of his salary then. Cause we definitely aren't buying him out.
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Posted 19 June 2013 - 01:25 PM

3 yrs $16 mil if Lu was a UFA? Same cap hit as now
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Posted 19 June 2013 - 01:25 PM

Well then we would need to arrange a deal so that we retain a certain percentage of his salary then. Cause we definitely aren't buying him out.


The situation is now, Canucks would have to retain salary, and should not expect much coming back.
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Posted 19 June 2013 - 01:28 PM

There is no chance in hell that we buyout Lu. That GM can keep dreaming.
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Posted 19 June 2013 - 01:29 PM

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This garbage sounds like league-approved gm collusion to me. If such a player were on Boston or Chicago, the media would imply the return should be a windfall.
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Posted 19 June 2013 - 01:29 PM

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Or, how about we trade Schneider? :D
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Posted 19 June 2013 - 01:31 PM

There is no chance in hell that we buyout Lu. That GM can keep dreaming.


I'm sure he is not actually waiting for a buy out and realistically expecting it. Just more of a mention of what media fans don't realize, teams want Lu just not his contract. If Lu was a UFA, you will have at least 5 teams going hard for him.
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Posted 19 June 2013 - 01:33 PM

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Or, how about we trade Schneider? :D


Do u really think lui will want to play here anymore? Come on... I love the guy but all he showed was class... and mg n av spat on his face... out played Cory by far in the playoffs and had to sit on the bench and see the team he's killed him self for these years get swept thanks to him not playing.

I sure hope hes forgiving. Ive said from the start... hes the better goalie and better for the franchise. I dont care about his age
Elite goalies are hard to come by. Unless we trade for lumdqvist and he takes a pay cut
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Posted 19 June 2013 - 01:34 PM

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Or, how about we trade Schneider? :D


Should of done it few years ago...but our GM is gutless. On one hand we were trying to win "now" past 2 years, yet they were too worried about the future.

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Posted 19 June 2013 - 01:36 PM

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GM: "I want that good player for nothing."

Well, no sht.
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Posted 19 June 2013 - 01:38 PM

I'm sure he is not actually waiting for a buy out and realistically expecting it. Just more of a mention of what media fans don't realize, teams want Lu just not his contract. If Lu was a UFA, you will have at least 5 teams going hard for him.


This isn't a revelation.

Many hockey people have been saying this for the last year. Lu even mentioned it at his trade deadline day mini press conference that it's not the fact that teams don't want him, it's that his contract "sucks".

I highly doubt Lui will get bought out. It will still come down to how much salary are we willing to take back or which players bad contract will we be willing to take back in a deal. This is on top of whether Lui approves of the move to that team.
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Posted 19 June 2013 - 01:42 PM

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What a damn mess.
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Posted 19 June 2013 - 01:43 PM

Canucks won't buy him out, if they do in fact some how trade, it will be for not much at all in return and we would have to retain salary.

Gillis screwed this all up. Becoming more evident everyday
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Posted 19 June 2013 - 01:43 PM

What a damn mess.


Pretty much a mess created by our stupid GM....Still just do not get one bit why was Gills so set on not moving Schneider these past few years when we would have no doubt gotten a few pieces the would have helped.
Especially after we re-signed him, would gotten a great deal.

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Posted 19 June 2013 - 01:44 PM

3 yrs $16 mil if Lu was a UFA? Same cap hit as now


I agree - he will get the same but for a shorter term.
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Posted 19 June 2013 - 01:51 PM

I agree - he will get the same but for a shorter term.


They aren't buying him out, There are teams that would take him for free. TO would have at the deadline.
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Posted 19 June 2013 - 01:53 PM

Lus contract just isnt that bad. In a few years teams will be salivating over it, especially if they want to kill cap.
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Posted 19 June 2013 - 01:57 PM

This, among others should get this GM fired.

But nooooo, he's still here. I'm sure Canucks won't win the cup with MG as GM.
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Posted 19 June 2013 - 01:58 PM

Lus contract just isnt that bad. In a few years teams will be salivating over it, especially if they want to kill cap.


Is that why every GM in the league is rushing in!
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Posted 19 June 2013 - 01:58 PM

Lus contract just isnt that bad. In a few years teams will be salivating over it, especially if they want to kill cap.


Is that why every GM in the league is rushing in?
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Posted 19 June 2013 - 01:58 PM

You can't get something for nothing...
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Posted 19 June 2013 - 02:05 PM

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I can guarantee that we will not be retaining any of Luongo's salary in a trade... nor will we be buying him out.

We are a cap team so keeping cap is a non-starter for us.

If we waived Luongo there would be several claims on him, so buying him out is not necessary.

There is a difference between not getting the return we want in a trade and being in a crisis.
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Posted 19 June 2013 - 02:07 PM

Lu's contract when signed was a great contract for us. Because of it spread through many years we lowered his caphit. His contract was for to him to be our franchise goalie for years. But now when you want to trade him after just 3 years, the contract looks even worse.
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Posted 19 June 2013 - 02:08 PM

Pierre Lebrun was on the team 1040 and said he spoke to one GM who he would not name, and said he is very interested in Luongo. But not his contract and he is hoping the Canucks buy him out so he could sign him right away.

So this situation is interesting. MG is not going to get the deal he wants now for Lu for sure, and if he does happen to pull a trade but keeping some of Lu's salary, it will be the best case scenario now. But what do you think Lu would get signed for say the Canucks buy him out because a lot of teams will jump on him. And Pierre also mentioned he thinks Luongo is the best goalie out of all of the ones available.

Too many panicky Petes here, to much speculation ad not enough behind the scenes facts.
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Posted 19 June 2013 - 02:12 PM

They aren't buying him out, There are teams that would take him for free. TO would have at the deadline.


I agree - I don't believe the Canucks will buy him out neither.

I was agreeing on the "how much would Luongo get" if he was a UFA.
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Posted 19 June 2013 - 02:22 PM

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Like most people have said it will take us taking back a bad contract and then buying it out to get value for Lu.

Why would we buy out his contract when we can buy out another players contract and actually get something for him?

TSN's constant attempts to try and lower Luongo's value is pretty sad.
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Posted 19 June 2013 - 02:23 PM

This much we know:

Gillis threw Luongo under the bus and for his intent and purpose kept him under the bus for one full year.

That has impacted his team and the organisation all season long.

Gillis is either not able to make this trade or had no trading partners.

This is said to be a deep draft.Let's hope Gillis has been taking some gonad growth pills.
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Posted 19 June 2013 - 02:25 PM

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Its media BS! If Luongo was a free agent Toronto media would be going crazy to try and get the guy signed...he would easily fetch around 5.5-6m per year on a 6 or 7 year deal. Not much off of what he is on now and structured in a much more positive light with money owing a lot less then cap hit going forward! BS! Annoys the hell out of me how the east coast bias media just goes on about his contract without stating the actual facts....wanna talk bad goalie contracts look at Carey Prices deal!

Edited by canadiangunner, 19 June 2013 - 02:26 PM.

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Posted 19 June 2013 - 02:37 PM

Here is what people are forgetting.

The structure of his contract means that the vast bulk of it has been paid already. The meat and potatoes is his cap hit as most of his monetary salary has been paid for already.

Cash strapped teams could be interested based on this alone. his cap hit is a GM problem, his actual salary is the owner problem and knowing you've a decent player who has most of an ugly salary already paid makes him appealing no matter what LeBrun and other pundits say.

there is indeed a market for Lu IMO it just needs to be settled on what Gillis/Aqullini will take back in return. ie; bad contracts
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He's out for 6 months (which will hinder his development) and he really needs that development. There's already worries that he won't translate to the NHL and he'll end up a huge ass bust.

 

 





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