RonMexico Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Also Anaheim at 26th and 45th could work. Ana - 26th, 45th Mtl - 34th, 36th CBJ - 27th, 44th Dal - 29th, 40th. No one would do these trades? I think we could get two very good players at each of those spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodee Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Give him credit. He realizes that the demand from other teams to trade up is higher than to trade down, so if his 24th is for sale he may start a small bidding war which may in the end favour us. EDIT: I wish he would take the same approach with the goalie situation, since everyone wants Schneider... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 I would never trade down. That is a fool's game. There is too much confirmation bias...people tend focus on just the hits and not the numerous misses outside the first round. Finding a diamond in the rough rarely happens. Picks outside the top 25 have a poor success rate of making AND lasting in the NHL. I don't have an exact number but I have heard its less than 15%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robongo Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 He wants to move DOWN? This is the highest pick we've had at 24 since 2009 and he wants to move DOWN. Man oh man he better not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodee Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Imagine what we could land with Schneider, and compare that with Luongo. It only makes sense to trade Schneider. That being said, it is unfortunate that MG put both goaltenders into this situation and is pretty much just looking to trade Luongo. I'd rather have MG trade from a position of excess (goaltending, defence) to land either help up front for the top 6 or a higher draft pick. This draft is insanely deep and a top 10 pick this year essentially translates into a top 3/5 pick in any other regular draft. Nichushkin, Barkov, and possibly even Jones or Drouin could be had if MG is willing to trade a guy like Edler or Schneider along with a few other minor pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoast Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Barring something unforeseen ,Gillis will be getting those high picks he wants soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonMexico Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 In most drafts that is true. This is not most drafts. Like I said, it depends who is left on the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakyWalton Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Our illustrious GM better do something with LU soon and make some moves, Im getting tired of this guy and his do nothing approach. He has done nothing to give us long suffering fans any hope except hire a new coach and is using that as an excuse for sitting around on his hands. Wake me up when this dufus does something,,by then I should have a beard as long as Rip Van Winkle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Even if this is an alleged deep draft, I do not have faith that this team's scouting staff has the ability to land two quality players...let alone just one. I would take the higher odds of getting a better player at 24 rather than hoping they can magically find two 2nd rounders who pan out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avelanch Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 every year people say "this is the deepest draft ever"... it can't always be that deep, can it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lui's Knob Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Who thinks gillis will pull a Seattle plan and stock pile filling holes using this strong draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaguez Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Gillis is too gutless to do anything major. He is going to stand pat, add some iffy players trying to catch lightning in a bottle and then tell everyone the prices were too high. To top that off we will still have Luongo and Schneider in jan 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonMexico Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 I agree that our scouting has been relatively poor but that doesn't preclude us being able to do well in this draft especially if we are only talking about moving down a couple of spots to grab a 2nd rounder. Who we have at 24 might be much lower in this draft on other people's lists. there is so much spread this year, far more than in other years. BTW, 'magically' is not a good description for what well paid professionals should be doing well. That's a simplistic view point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pinchin Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Our drafting is not is as "bad" as it is "not good". We are middle of the road when it comes to drafting, we have some good players on our roster that we drafted such as Ryan Kesler, Cory Scneider, Kevin Bieksa, Alex Edler, Hank and Dank not to mention Cody Hodgson and Michael Grabner. Could it be better? Of course, but it could most certainly be worse. I'm glad we all have such high expecations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 It makes sense to everyone except Gillis. Why, because he is so uncomfortable in a bargaining position he would rather play out Luongo for next to nothing (where he has Lu's contract as an excuse) The guy is a dud! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Our drafting is not is as "bad" as it is "not good". We are middle of the road when it comes to drafting, we have some good players on our roster that we drafted such as Ryan Kesler, Cory Scneider, Kevin Bieksa, Alex Edler, Hank and Dank not to mention Cody Hodgson and Michael Grabner. Could it be better? Of course, but it could most certainly be worse. I'm glad we all have such high expecations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Our drafting is not is as "bad" as it is "not good". We are middle of the road when it comes to drafting, we have some good players on our roster that we drafted such as Ryan Kesler, Cory Scneider, Kevin Bieksa, Alex Edler, Hank and Dank not to mention Cody Hodgson and Michael Grabner. Could it be better? Of course, but it could most certainly be worse. I'm glad we all have such high expecations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neversummer Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Another classic MG presser ... much ado about nothing. Gillis should learn to do pressers from Torts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bd71 Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 If (and it's BIG if) Gillis is forced to put him on waivers there's about a 0.00000001% chance that Florida doesn't take him. I also think that if it gets to that, he starts looking very seriously at trading Schneider and mending fences with Lu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Also Anaheim at 26th and 45th could work. Ana - 26th, 45th Mtl - 34th, 36th CBJ - 27th, 44th Dal - 29th, 40th. No one would do these trades? I think we could get two very good players at each of those spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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