Noheart Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 i swear, the way things are going, by the time gillis finally gets axed this team will be an enormous cluster-expletive. the team will be finishing in the bottom third of the league and the cupboards will be barren of good prospects. he's scorching the earth before he goes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas19 Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 No dispute there but this is my issue 1. Its reactionary. MG was forced into this. 2. If he was going to trade Schneids it should have been done earlier to avoid this mess 3. He looks like a total bafoon now 4. His bargaining position is much weaker than if 1 or 2 weren't there. ie every team in the league knows they HAVE to move a goalie or buyout which lowers either goalie's value. 5. We should be getting a Coutourier and a #11 overall back but I doubt we will see number 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuretoMogilny Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 I don't hate LU, and preffer Schneider as our #1, but I do hate that we would lose a quality goaltender for nothing when Schneids could bring us a massive return. He could help re-stock the prospect pool significantly. Would rather trade him to an east coast team though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crime911 Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 MG simply screwed up...that's is all i need to say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brahma Bull Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 Wow this is real. I suspect that if they are willing to trade Cory that they have talked to Lu about possibly staying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 Lol I think teams completely forget about Luongo now and just offer stuff for Schneider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noheart Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 how the frack does someone hate luongo? he has been nothing but the best goalie to where a canucks uniform. maybe you would rather have Schneider ? but to hate Lou is insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JensenFan2011 Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 Luongo has already said he would love to stay in van but say that Schneider was ready to be number 1... now that Schneider gets traded Luongo would love to stay here and win a cup on the team he had his best years with... and worst years but you get what i'm saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brahma Bull Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 I don't hate LU, and preffer Schneider as our #1, but I do hate that we would lose a quality goaltender for nothing when Schneids could bring us a massive return. He could help re-stock the prospect pool significantly. Would rather trade him to an east coast team though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester13 Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 Putting Schneids on the market makes all other goalie talk ie. Smith, Miller, Lou non-existent for now. Younger, cheaper, and, arguably, better all around fit than all three. Putting aside how GMMG has handled this entire goalie trade, a bidding war could easily happen now and this is the right move to make. I, for one, am glad that he isn't afraid to make this kind of a move if need be. He is obviously looking to improve this team, regardless of who's feelings he hurts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuretoMogilny Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 Canucks still have leverage though. There will be teams competing for Schneider, trying to out bid each other. And other teams know that if the return for Schneider isn't suitable the Canucks could just buyout Lu and keep Schneids. I mean that's the Canucks last option but the compliance buyout gives the Canucks an option. Without the compliance buyout then yes I would agree with you, the Canucks would be stuck between a rock and a hard place. But the Canucks do have an out. Teams know that if they want Schneider (a franchise goalie) this is their only chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuretoMogilny Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 Does Schnieds get us first overall? Roy would love the kid....thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Canuck Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 Finally gillis has realized he isn't getting anything for LU. Most of us fans been saying trade Schneider instead for a while now!! Lets get it done MG!! I'd want more from the oilers since they're in the same div as us! Or get them in a bidding war with the islanders and flyers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester13 Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 Ballard, Raymond, and Schneider for... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brahma Bull Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 Pretty much means we will trade Schneider or now that people know MG is willing to trade Schneider instead they might actually offer something for Luongo now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 Putting Schneids on the market makes all other goalie talk ie. Smith, Miller, Lou non-existent for now. Younger, cheaper, and, arguably, better all around fit than all three. Putting aside how GMMG has handled this entire goalie trade, a bidding war could easily happen now and this is the right move to make. I, for one, am glad that he isn't afraid to make this kind of a move if need be. He is obviously looking to improve this team, regardless of who's feelings he hurts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuretoMogilny Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 Well you have to figure the following teams will want him Edm, Philly, Isles, maybe Fla/Tampa/Col other than the Isles that means a top 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuretoMogilny Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 I'd like to see him with the isles...he would fit in nicely and would be in the east Strome Martin Nino First pick, and second Schnieds Schroeder Ballard Our first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayou Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 I don't think GMMG screwed up trading Luongo/managing assets as much as he was forced to deal with the results of the lockout and CBA negotiation. The arrival of compliance buyouts on the scene changed the dynamics of trying to deal Luongo. I do like the timing of this "Schneider's available" message though -- takes advantage of the draft/free agency trade momentum that many GMs seem to get caught up in. Best time to create a bidding war. Keeping Luongo will have other cap implications though. Does doing so guarantee Ballard and Booth buyouts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas19 Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 Well you have to figure the following teams will want him Edm, Philly, Isles, maybe Fla/Tampa/Col other than the Isles that means a top 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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