Winter Soldier Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 14 minutes ago, Fred65 said: Recently in and interview with JB, Don Taylor asked if "who" drafted a player had any impact on those that are brought up or not. JB denied it of course but a couple of days later Gallagher let it slip that both Skinkaruk and Gaunce had been discussed with other teams as possible trades. Seems like a contradiction Because they're worthwhile assets? You have to give to get, squire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 1 minute ago, J.R. said: Why? Regardless of how much I like him, I'd trade Shinkaruk for say Drew Doughty in a heart beat Not saying that's remotely realistic, just illustrating (extremely) that just because you like a guy, doesn't me you can't/won't/shouldn't trade him. A team's bigger than any one player. It's not a common occurrence for minor leaguers to be included in meaningful deals but I guess you can say the same about ...Virtanen or McCann heck any one.... I suppose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 2 minutes ago, Fred65 said: It's not a common occurrence for minor leaguers to be included in meaningful deals but I guess you can say the same about ...Virtanen or McCann heck any one.... I suppose As I touched on in my edit, you need to take anything Tony G say's with a boulder sized grain of salt as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 All true, I guess it just makes me think about do I believe JB when he moves his lips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 2 hours ago, Fred65 said: It's not a common occurrence for minor leaguers to be included in meaningful deals but I guess you can say the same about ...Virtanen or McCann heck any one.... I suppose Actually it is for deadline deals. One team wants a proven asset as a buyer while the other wants picks and prospects as a seller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeneedLumme Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 3 hours ago, Fred65 said: Recently in and interview with JB, Don Taylor asked if "who" drafted a player had any impact on those that are brought up or not. JB denied it of course but a couple of days later Gallagher let it slip that both Skinkaruk and Gaunce had been discussed with other teams as possible trades. Seems like a contradiction Wow. If I could make leaps of logic like that, I would feel like Superman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 8 minutes ago, WeneedLumme said: Wow. If I could make leaps of logic like that, I would feel like Superman. I do believe Superman leaps tall buildings. Is there a superhero known for brains? Wonder Woman? No that's balloons. . It's game night, been tipping them all ready. A fan needs to be properly prepared for this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 I really like Shink but I have a feeling he's going to get traded eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derp... Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Where is Shinkaruks value right now compared to the day we drafted him up, down same? AHL all stars are not easy to find. His season is promising, but he still is a fair number of points shy of the .7ppg AHL career number that projects players as top 6 forwards and top 4 Dmen. There's also a 150 game cap on that projection or something. He would need 36 points in his next 32 games to hit the .7ppg mark by game 150 of the regular season. I dono if he'll get there, but I hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 13 minutes ago, messier's_elbow said: I really like Shink but I have a feeling he's going to get traded eventually. I don't trust JB on both Shonkaruk and Gaunce. I think he will add them to Hamhuis and Vrbata. I'm okay with it, providing the return is young and has elite potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 31 minutes ago, Derp... said: Where is Shinkaruks value right now compared to the day we drafted him up, down same? AHL all stars are not easy to find. His season is promising, but he still is a fair number of points shy of the .7ppg AHL career number that projects players as top 6 forwards and top 4 Dmen. There's also a 150 game cap on that projection or something. He would need 36 points in his next 32 games to hit the .7ppg mark by game 150 of the regular season. I dono if he'll get there, but I hope so. Last year he was not only a rookie pro but recovering from significant surgery. This year he's at .86ppg -- that is a lot more relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 39 minutes ago, Alflives said: I don't trust JB on both Shonkaruk and Gaunce. I think he will add them to Hamhuis and Vrbata. I'm okay with it, providing the return is young and has elite potential. I have the same feeling. I heard Benning interviewed on TSN 1040 recently and he was explicitly asked, in effect, whether he was favoring his own acquisitions over the Gillis draft picks. Of course he said "no". What else would he say. But his answer did not give me a lot of confidence as he had nothing positive to say about either Guance or Shinkaruk (or Zalewski). I agree that he is probably looking for an opportunity to trade one or both of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 1 hour ago, messier's_elbow said: I really like Shink but I have a feeling he's going to get traded eventually. I don't trust JB on both Shonkaruk and Gaunce. I think he will add them to Hamhuis and Vrbata. I'm okay with it, providing the return is young and has elite potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 5 minutes ago, Alflives said: I don't trust JB on both Shonkaruk and Gaunce. I think he will add them to Hamhuis and Vrbata. I'm okay with it, providing the return is young and has elite potential. both former first round picks. he better get something good for both of them if he's trading them. I don't know why he wouldn't keep them. Shink and Gaunce to me seem like pretty good prospects. Gaunce would make an excellent fourth line centre. Shink if given the opportunity would make potentially a very good top six player. if Benning trades them both. he will in my opinion need to justify the reason for doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 11 minutes ago, JamesB said: I have the same feeling. I heard Benning interviewed on TSN 1040 recently and he was explicitly asked, in effect, whether he was favoring his own acquisitions over the Gillis draft picks. Of course he said "no". What else would he say. But his answer did not give me a lot of confidence as he had nothing positive to say about either Guance or Shinkaruk (or Zalewski). Yet he signed him to an NHL contract for the rest of the year. Benning said he wants Shinkaruk to establish himself with 30 goals this year, only his second in the AHL. You do not trade away those kind of prospects unless you are getting something pretty decent back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueberries Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 8 minutes ago, Alflives said: I don't trust JB on both Shonkaruk and Gaunce. I think he will add them to Hamhuis and Vrbata. I'm okay with it, providing the return is young and has elite potential. JB will be sniped before he gets a chance to pull the trigger on trading on my boy Shinkaruk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 11 minutes ago, Blueberries said: JB will be sniped before he gets a chance to pull the trigger on trading on my boy Shinkaruk. Cute. I can see JB all covered on blueberry stains after your "drive by fruiting". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Tatar, Pearson, Toffoli all spent 4 years in the AHL, and Nyquist 3. Shinkaruk and Gaunce are just in their second -- what's the rush? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 3 minutes ago, Hutton Wink said: Tatar, Pearson, Toffoli all spent 4 years in the AHL, and Nyquist 3. Shinkaruk and Gaunce are just in their second -- what's the rush? Impatience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 7 minutes ago, Hutton Wink said: Tatar, Pearson, Toffoli all spent 4 years in the AHL, and Nyquist 3. Shinkaruk and Gaunce are just in their second -- what's the rush? Those guys all SUCK. Okay, they are good, but ... I can't think of a but. Crap. . I don't want to watch our same old core guys for two more seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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