Rick 2.0 Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 And if we don't win in 2-3 years then what? Nice to have young players to step in and make the team better yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 You can't answer this question I'm curious to see on what the general opinion of the Canuck fan base is. I've seen scattered comments throughout the boards. Some love the acquisition of Bo Horvat. Some are loathing losing last years starting goalie. Let's see what the poll says. My take? Once again the Canucks get hemmed into making a decision that they MAY regret, but salvage by acquiring a nice POTENTIAL piece for the future. It all starts from handing Luongo a insane contract, making him unmovable. Perhaps a earlier transaction of Luongo or Schneider would of net a better return. To break it down: - No one wants Luongo - Acquillini won't buyout Luongo - Waiving him would be impractical. Thus trading Schneider was the only choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spliced Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 It's hard to say now. I was hoping that if Schneider was traded it would bring back a future #1 center so we'll see how that turns out. I think Gillis should have been able to get more of a return than he got though. One thing I will say is this team is in decline and needed badly to improve it's prospect pool and they've done that today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Green Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Voted No: glad to get the #9 pick and glad we picked Horvat, but should have received at least an additional 3rd round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 I'm not always a horrible GM but when I am I trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangerines Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 I like that we got a good young player in return, but felt like we could have gotten a little more like NJ's 2nd or a decent prospect. That NJ 2nd could have gotten us V. Zykov. I think he's going to be a stud also. Horvat and Zykov would have made me feel better about the whole ordeal.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangerines Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 At least we won't be Calgary 2.0 in a few years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedMachine Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 It may have made sense to move Schneider, but it is appalling we got nothing else in return. As others have said, trading an established starting goalie for a prospect is bad asset management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick 2.0 Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 ...trading an established starting goalie for a prospect is bad asset management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllEyezOnMe Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Gillis straight pulled a big brother move by making everyone think that luongos gone but vetoing Schneider in last minute and finally evicting him from the canucks organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFrame14 Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Terrible trade MG.. What is wrong with him. Schnieds was our man. Wtf!! Lou doesn't wanna be here and we can't win with him. Stunned. Total bull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester13 Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 I said NO because GMMG should not have put himself into this position in the first place. He could have easily traded Lou last year for a decent return and kept the younger and better goalie; instead, he traded away a franchise goalie for a player that might help us out in three years. I like the Horvat pick, but it's going to be another Cody Hodgson watch where we are discussing thread after thread of pointless dribble for the next three years until he finally makes the team. Uggh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naslund.is.king Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Can you stop deleting my posts? This is not the dictator or North Korea. I said nothing thats breaking the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 It is hard to watch a quality player like Schneider move on. Been following him since the Moose. It was a necessary trade that hopefully brings a quality center with some size back to the org. I suspect Cory's two games last spring were what brought his value down in the eyes of potential trade partners. As a fan I can only hope and wish for the best for Cory Schneider. A quality individual who NJD will enjoy. Hopefully the Canucks can meet the Devils in a CUP final some day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noheart Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 You have "butt-hurt" written all over you .. relax and the optimism will overcome you .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snolan Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 There seems to be a huge misconception about what asset management is from a lot of the people on this board.... If we remove speculation (Schneider is a bonafied #1, Bo is going to bust, etc) and simply focus on reality we can assume 2 things: 1 - Schneider is quite NHL ready, to what degree we are uncertain but we could say it is relatively probable he will be a NHL starter 2 - Bo is a fresh palate to develop - and thus completely uncertain. I really like the sounds of the player but.... What is infuriating for most is that we went from relative certainty, to complete unknown WITHOUT gaining any additional assets for the risk. We went for 1 - 1 due to being destroyed from the cap due to mismanagement of the team. Proper asset management is when you are taking on a risk you are compensated for the risk... We could end up with a Josh Bailey or James Sheppard, conversely we could have a Logan Couture and be completely satisfied with the deal .. it is all unknown it is the concepts of asset management and what a debacle the cap / goalie situation has been that makes it a bad trade.... Like the tide doesn't stem here fellas, we are going to be up against it again next year without making a move. We pay too much to our mediocre D and have some complete albatross contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 I know Nichushkin looks pretty freakin' sweet, but Horvat looks pretty freakin' sweet too. Looks like the real deal. London Knights. 2-way force. Playoff Mvp. Aw, what's not to like? Schneider will be missed. I liked his positive attitude and his impressions. Him and Luongo are two standup character guys, and no matter how much the media tried to play up the situation, they didn't give an inch. I believe the 'controversy' made both players better, honestly. I always believed that trading Schneider was an option. Had a feeling it would turn out that way, esp. towards the end. As it turns out i was right. Do i like the trade? Hell yes. It was needed and overdue. Getting a top-notch prospect in return at zero capspace is just an added bonus. Only drawback is that we received zero immediate help for him. But at least our cap troubles are now clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 What makes Schneider a stud? I think the potential is there, but a lot of goalies have started their careers hot and disappeared. This is great asset management. We are deep in goal, so we traded are depth in goal to stock pile our other needs. I really dislike how people are ASSUMING Horvat is going to be a stud. Alot of players are taken in the first round that never make it. Not saying he will or won't but point is there is alot of risk folks, yet many are ignoring that. we took a 26th overall in Schneider, developed him into a stud and then trade him for a 'maybe' not good asset management give up a stud, fill a hole with another young stud (but established) that's where MG failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee goren rulez69 Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 nope. could've got more, plus the fact we lose the superior goalie with no immediate help to our roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ftmN Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 While I agree with the prospects, I do not agree with the trade. While I think they are both elite goal tenders, Luo is not the future in my eyes, Schneider was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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