LickTheEnvelope Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 You don't trade you pending UFA's when you're going into the playoffs. Every playoff team loses players to free agency. Get use to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzam Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Sorry but he has nothing to offer in the playoffs time to move on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 I think so. 1: He was the fastest player on the Canucks 2: He was great in the locker room and community 3: I still felt he had untapped potential. 4: He was one of the better goal scorers on the Canucks. When he was on his game, he was unstoppable. I think he made fair money for what he brought to the team and you could probably sign him right now even cheaper than what he made before... Why is he not being given another chance? Great value player as the Canucks are pretty tight up against the cap. He'll bring more than a lot of the guys getting overpaid in free agency. I'd like to see Raymond back. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stexx Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Some teams do (Clowe out of San Jose as an example). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksSayEh Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 I would have rather resigned him than Higgins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodyknukles Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 mason did have some good flashes, but overall just like kyle wellwood we are better off without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Some teams do (Clowe out of San Jose as an example). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alihou Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 no. he had run his course, he is WAY to soft and has no balance on his skates due to his skating style. Until he corrects his balance issues (which i doubt he ever will) he wont be an effective player and will always play on the perimeter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 I would have rather resigned him than Higgins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCanuck Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Raymond is the complete opposite of a player Torts likes to use. He doesn't block shots, he can't hit, he's soft and he's a perimeter player. I think the rangers should pick him up and AV will put him in the top 6 over better players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shredder Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 I agree. He outperformed Higgins this past season. I would have preferred Raymond at $2.5m per but I doubt he would have signed that low. I still can't believe Higgins got a ntc in his deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho_Path Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Even if he does well on another team, he was given ample opportunity here to succeed with our 2nd line (Kesler and whoever) and showed great inconsistency. Definitely not a mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thad Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Nah time to move on. We needed changes and I take Higgins and Hansen over him 60% of the time, all the time. They bring the gritty intangibles every single night. That outweighs mason being "unstoppable" 3 times a year. If I'm handing out 4 year contracts, I feel a lot better giving them to those 2 over mason. He's a good player and I wish him well but change is needed and losing him hurts us less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NucksBruins Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Raymond was too soft and his scoring was too sporadic. Not a solid top 6 guy and not physical enough for bottom six, not on a contending team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chivas Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Raymond was fast, but fell down if you looked at him crossways, and like the rest of the Canucks, completely disappeared in the playoffs. He may have had a chance of staying if his peripheral vision was good enough to spot open players. He very seldom made a good pass, he just skated in circles until someone or the boards knocked him off the puck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimberWolf Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Raymond was not going to make or break us in any way. He's not as bad as made out, but replaceable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrevorLinden4ever Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 This was another guy MG signed way above market value. When he said "reset", I think it's fair to say there are some changes that have to be made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LickTheEnvelope Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Clowe wasn't performing and the sharks were struggling. The trade actually helped San Jose. We didn't have anything to replace Raymond with nor would we have gotten any significant return. Raymond outperformed Clowe this past season but Clowe has a better history of production plus plays a physical game. He had become surplus in San Jose. Raymond was our fifth best producer among forwards. You don't trade that for picks heading into the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB007 Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 I don't have the numbers on hand but i'd strongly doubt Raymond has been the Canucks 5th best producting forward in the playoffs the last 5 years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilduce39 Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 I'm completely fine with us letting Raymond go - but I also wouldn't be surprised if he put up 20 goals if he signs in the east. I think a change of scenery will be good for him and this makes room in the top-6 for us to try and develop some people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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