inane Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 What did you just do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weber's Playoff Beard Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 I agree. My solution is to put the cyclist road along the pedestrian roads and make them follow the same rule as the pedestrians. For example, they cross the street when the pedestrian light turns to "walk." This way they won't clog up the traffic and the cyclists are not in the danger of getting into fatal accidents. If the cyclists paths are placed alongside the pedestrian paths, then the worst that can happen in an accident is that a pedestrian gets hit by an idiot cyclist and breaks a leg! Breaking one's leg is far better outcome than losing one's life. Where pedestrians are not allowed, bikers should not be allowed either for their own safety. Most of the bridges in Vancouver already has pedestrian paths on the side so all the city needs to do is to separate the pedestrian path into two, one for the pedestrians, one for the bikers and do not allow the bikers on the lanes of the bridge or the streets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillerGenuineDraft Posted July 15, 2013 Author Share Posted July 15, 2013 Sounds good on paper but a lot of sidewalks on busy streets are so narrow that it's already uncomfortable when two people have to walk by each other. If there were bike lanes parallel to every major road, we could then ban cyclists from major roads.. win-win. I don't have a problem with educating cyclists. But licensing them will cause recreational cyclists to end up driving, which causes more congestion. Vancouver has enough congestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Juice Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 I like cycling but just a couple weeks ago, I was driving along Marine Drive stopped at a red light (the light where the buses turn into towards the Canada Line station). I was pretty far from the red light and my position was closest towards the sidewalk. As I was waiting for the light, a cyclist sped past my right window, crashed into my right side mirror, bent it forward, and didn't even have the nerve to look back. When it was a green light, I couldn't catch him because he was already out of sight. It's bent so forward that I can't even use the mirror anymore and I just got it fixed a month ago costing me close to $200 to repair it and now I have to bring it in for repair again. Seriously, wtf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt.Clutch Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 The big issue for me is the insurance. If I (or anyone else for that matter) get into an accident with a cyclist, no matter who's fault, it goes on my insurance. That is completely dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 If you think cyclists are a problem in Vancouver, you should see it in Amsterdam. Actually, it's not as much a problem with drivers (as driving there is growing to be more and more rare), it's more a problem with cycling congestion and bicycle parking. If Vancouver's headed this way, and it might be (Vancouver plans to reduce car trips to 33% by 2040), you can pretty much say goodbye to cars in the downtown core unless you're very wealthy. Driver-Cyclist relation problems? Solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Doughty Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 how bout longboarders. They get on my nerve when they take up the whole hill... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilduce39 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 I don't ride a bike and I can't see myself using one - used to just blindly hate them - but I took a geography class on Cities that really changed my mind - too many roads and parking lots can really stagnate a city, or so I learned, as driving culture over pedestrian / public transit / cycling culture pushes back store-fronts to accommodate cars via parking lots, etc. This makes it a lot tougher for boutique and independently operated businesses to compete as they rely on foot traffic walking by as natural advertisement, as well as adding to the culture of a city. Not to mention you can accommodate a lot more pedestrian/cycling traffic than you can vehicular traffic. "The city" is supposed to be a place with jobs and a cultural hub - thus people living in "the city" are expected to drive less as they live within cycling distance or have access to public transportation. Even before I knew this, if I wanted to go downtown, I either sky-train in from Surrey or find one place to park and travel the rest on foot if I'm going to be be-bopping around - it's a lot easier. Back on-point to the OP - sure, cyclists should be subject to laws akin to those they share the road with. The bottom line is there just isn't enough space to provide infrastructure for everybody to drive and I can't see bikes going anywhere and these are issues that probably should be addressed as they become more prevalent. As far as bike lanes, do they not alleviate a lot of the cyclist-induced problems of sharing the road? How do other cycle-centric cities address this issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Common sense Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 There's jaywalking fines, and a number of others I believe as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blame Obama Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 if you're gonna bike use your hand signals!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckamo Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 As far as bike lanes, do they not alleviate a lot of the cyclist-induced problems of sharing the road? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magikal Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Nothing bothers me more than seeing cyclists on the sidewalk. We ripped apart half of this city to put in lanes for these pricks and they still opt to inconvenience pedestrians and use the sidewalk. Bloody cyclists think they own the whole city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoaltenderInterference Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Last week, some cyclist thought it was a-okay to lean against my vehicle because he didn't want to put his feet on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonfruits Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Nothing bothers me more than seeing cyclists on the sidewalk. We ripped apart half of this city to put in lanes for these pricks and they still opt to inconvenience pedestrians and use the sidewalk. Bloody cyclists think they own the whole city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostViking Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 To drive a car you must: 1. Be over 16 years of age. 2. Pass an eye exam. 3. Pass a written exam on the rules of the road. 4. Demonstrate your understanding of the rules of the road in the presence of a driving instructor. 5. Pass other medical exams if you are a senior. 6. Purchase insurance. 7. Purchase your driver's license. 8. Purchase your license plate. 9. Pay taxes for road maintenance. 10. Not be over an established intoxication limit. To ride a bicycle you must: *crickets chirping* I believe that covers all of the rules that are enforced regularly. I find any argument or initiative to makes things easier for cyclists to be ridiculous. You want to cycle around, go mountain biking, need to get from point A to B, take transit or walk, need exercise, go to the gym, want to help the environment, don't have children. There is simply no legitimate need for cycling to the point where we need to re-think our entire city and drop other priorities to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magikal Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 that's when i walk straight towards them force them to go around me not the other way around they may yell at me but i really don't care they shouldn't be there in the first place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 need to get from point A to B, take transit or walk, Cycling is significantly quicker for many people who live in areas poorly served by transit. need exercise, go to the gym, Many people dislike the gym. Alternatives are good. want to help the environment, don't have children. Nothing stopping cyclists from refraining from reproducing. There is simply no legitimate need for cycling to the point where we need to re-think our entire city and drop other priorities to do so. You could say that about almost anything: Dog-walking, watching hockey, drinking alcohol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inane Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Nothing bothers me more than seeing cyclists on the sidewalk. We ripped apart half of this city to put in lanes for these pricks and they still opt to inconvenience pedestrians and use the sidewalk. Bloody cyclists think they own the whole city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inane Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 To drive a car you must: 1. Be over 16 years of age. 2. Pass an eye exam. 3. Pass a written exam on the rules of the road. 4. Demonstrate your understanding of the rules of the road in the presence of a driving instructor. 5. Pass other medical exams if you are a senior. 6. Purchase insurance. 7. Purchase your driver's license. 8. Purchase your license plate. 9. Pay taxes for road maintenance. 10. Not be over an established intoxication limit. To ride a bicycle you must: *crickets chirping* I believe that covers all of the rules that are enforced regularly. I find any argument or initiative to makes things easier for cyclists to be ridiculous. You want to cycle around, go mountain biking, need to get from point A to B, take transit or walk, need exercise, go to the gym, want to help the environment, don't have children. There is simply no legitimate need for cycling to the point where we need to re-think our entire city and drop other priorities to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillerGenuineDraft Posted July 16, 2013 Author Share Posted July 16, 2013 This is so full of fail it's hard to know where to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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