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Dale Weise Aribtration Set for July 31st * Also Arbitration explained *

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http://www.nhlpa.com/news/2013-14-salary-arbitration-schedule

As most of you know by now the Canucks have Dale Weise going to Salary Arbitration. I knotice alot of people asking what arbitration is so here is an easy explanation of Salary Arbitration. Hope it helps !

NHL salary arbitration is a tool available to settle some contract disputes. The player and team each propose a salary for the coming season, and argue their cases at a hearing. The arbitrator, a neutral third party, then sets the player's salary. Most players must have four years of NHL experience before they are eligible for salary arbitration (the term is reduced for those who signed their first NHL contract after the age of 20). The process is used by restricted free agents, because it is one of the few bargaining options available to them.

The deadline for players to request salary arbitration is July 5, with cases heard in late July and early August. A player and team can continue to negotiate up until the date of the hearing, in hopes of agreeing on a contract and avoiding the arbitration process.

Teams can also ask for salary arbitration. But a player can be taken to arbitration only once in his career, and can never receive less than 85 per-cent of his previous year's salary. There are no such restrictions on the number of times a player can ask for arbitration, or the size of the salary awarded. A decision must be made within 48 hours of the hearing. When the decision is announced, the team has the right to decline, or "walk away" from the award. If the team exercises this right, the player can declare himself an unrestricted free agent.

Salary Arbitration Proceedings

Every arbitration hearing begins at 9:00 a.m. EDT with the side who filed presenting their case first, followed by the other party. The same order continues for the ensuing rebuttals. Each party is allowed at most 90 minutes total, and they can allocate that time as they wish between their opening arguments and rebuttal.

The filing party is entitled to an additional 10 minutes for surrebuttal only if the opposing side brings up new issues or comparable players (those who are similar in statistics and game, and potentially in contract terms) in their rebuttal.

The evidence that can be used in arbitration cases:

The player's "overall performance" including statistics in all previous seasons.

Injuries, illnesses and the number of games played.

The player's length of service with the team and in the NHL.

The player's "overall contribution" to the team's success or failure.

The player's "special qualities of leadership or public appeal."

The performance and salary of any player alleged to be "comparable" to the player in the dispute.

Comparable players (an arbiter cannot deem another player comparable unless he has been mentioned by one of the parties)

Evidence that is not admissible:

The salary and performance of a "comparable" player who signed a contract as an unrestricted free agent.

Testimonials, video and media reports.

The financial state of the team.

The salary cap and the state of the team's payroll.

Contracts of players not mentioned as comparable players

Past contract offers or negotiations between the player and the team

Arbitration Decisions and Awards

Once an arbitration hearing comes to a close, the arbiter must come to a resolution within the next 48 hours. When his decision is made, there are four key points that must be included: the term of the contract (generally one year, occasionally two years), the salary, any minor league clauses and salary (the latter if applicable), and an explanation of the decision as well as which comparable players were used in consideration.

The team then has an additional two days to consider the ruling before either signing the player to the arbiter-imposed contract or choosing to walk away, leaving the player as an unrestricted free agent.

How NHL Teams and Players can Avoid Arbitration

The preference on both sides of the negotiating table is generally to reach a deal before the scheduled arbitration hearing date, and more often than not that is exactly what happens.From 2007 through 2009, 67 players had filed but only 14 had actually presented their case before an arbiter.

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Is he looking for more money or more term? Personally I wouldn't mind term but he isn't worth 1 mil if that's what he's looking for.

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Is he looking for more money or more term? Personally I wouldn't mind term but he isn't worth 1 mil if that's what he's looking for.

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Is he looking for more money or more term? Personally I wouldn't mind term but he isn't worth 1 mil if that's what he's looking for.

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Not 100% sure, but I think arbitration contract terms are only 1 or 2 years.

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I believe one thing you missed is if the team takes the player to arbitration the team is unable to walk away, they must accept the ruling

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In regards to Weise, no way an arbitrator gives him more than 750K

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I kind of don't understand why he is being re-signed. I don't think he enjoyed playing for Tortorella. The role he is required to play requires a lot of trust from the coach.

Replacement? How about Brandon Yip. A bit smaller, 10lbs lighter. 2 fights, 3 goals last season. 172 NHL games played. Currently UFA. With NSH last season @ $750,000.

I'm not saying he's better than Weise. But he'd probably be cheaper.

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Replacement? How about Brandon Yip. A bit smaller, 10lbs lighter. 2 fights, 3 goals last season. 172 NHL games played. Currently UFA. With NSH last season @ $750,000.

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Don't let the door hit ya on the way out Dale... I used to be a fan but I hope now the Canucks walk away from any ruling unless it is along the lines of what they were going to pay in the first place.

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Not a fan of this player. Not against him but to me I would rather see one of the Rookies play then have Dale take up a roster spot. Should try and deal him to the east for a 3rd or 4th round pick.

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Anything over 900,000 and hopefully Gillis walks.

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Let Weise walk he is not a good 4th liner and he is bad in a fight. A rookie should have that spot imo.

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The OP did not explain who is eligible for arbitration -- which players have the option. For players who sign an ELC between the ages of 18 and 20, they can opt for arbitration as RFAs after 4 years of professional experience. The team cannot walk away except for large awards (over $3.5 million).

Hard to see how Weise gets over 700K and it would not surprise me to see him on the Comets this year if the Canucks want to give some young guys a shot (like Lain, Gaunce, and Jensen). Sestito has taken the enforcer job.

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I kind of don't understand why he is being re-signed. I don't think he enjoyed playing for Tortorella. The role he is required to play requires a lot of trust from the coach.

Replacement? How about Brandon Yip. A bit smaller, 10lbs lighter. 2 fights, 3 goals last season. 172 NHL games played. Currently UFA. With NSH last season @ $750,000.

I'm not saying he's better than Weise. But he'd probably be cheaper.

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Walk away and offer his money to another depth center who can win faceoffs - Steckel or Halpern... Weise just isn't that compelling.

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