The Magician Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Schneider will be a UFA in 2 years, should we throw an offer at him for a couple years at about $4.5 mill? He most likely won't be happy there considering they lost their best player for nothing. Maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyBusiness Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 It is unlikely we will see that happen. He is closer to home now and will likely prefer playing in east as the travel is way better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Schneider is New Jersey's new franchise goalie. And if for whatever reason he doesn't like it there I could see him signing with a young team like the Islanders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck2xtreme Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Strombone @strombone1 30 Jun #NOtradeclause Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Actually, I was thinking about this as well. However, I'm sure he is feeling betrayed right now so I doubt this will happen unless Gillis is not the GM at that time. And... Strombone @strombone1 30 Jun #NOtradeclause As long as Luongo is here, Schneider won't want to come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleShield Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Luongo becomes tradeable in 2016 (ie if he plays 3 seasons, there is almost no cap recapture), and is therefore likely to still be here. Schneider will either leave NJ (as they look like they're going nowhere), or receive a huge deal ($55-65 over 8 years) from NJD. If he somehow winds up with a 1 year extension, and Luo wants out, and someone wants Luo, and Lack and Eriksson don't live up to expectations, then maybe this happens, otherwise, I don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Burrows 14 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Give him a 8 year 48 million dollar offer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck_trevor16 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 face it Schnieder is not coming back.......Luongo forever number 1! Plus Lack and Erikisson will be ready as starters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 face it Schnieder is not coming back.......Luongo forever number 1! Plus Lack and Erikisson will be ready as backups Fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absent Canuck Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Cory is a solid goalie. Always was. But he showed last year that he cracks under pressure. If he was still 20 years old it wouldnt be too bad but at age 27 you cant expect him to turn into Patrick Roy. He has played 80 NHL games in his whole career and has very limited playoff experience. If someone told me I had to tank my entire year and then give up my #9 pick for that, I would have told you to forget it. Cory is about as good as he is ever going to be. He is entering his prime years as a great positional goalie but one who has no extra gear when the going gets rough. He would be asking north of 6.5mil from any team and I think Lack and Erikkson will give us almost as good goaltending for far less cap space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Buy out Luongo next offseason and fire Gillis for the trade. Let Lack and Eriksson carry the load for a year and bring in Schneids if they falter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiznac Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 LOL Yes try sign the goalie that just went through what will be the most dramatic poorly media handled 2 years in his career then traded away after being told he was our number 1 ................ I love him but I dont think we will se him in a Canucks jersey again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Wow, someone still going through the 7 stages of grief?. Only worked your way up to stage 3, bargaining. Let it go man. Schneider is gone, He'll most likely never be a Canuck again. The sooner you get to acceptance the happier you'll be lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slappipappi Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Luongo becomes tradeable in 2016 (ie if he plays 3 seasons, there is almost no cap recapture), and is therefore likely to still be here. Schneider will either leave NJ (as they look like they're going nowhere), or receive a huge deal ($55-65 over 8 years) from NJD. If he somehow winds up with a 1 year extension, and Luo wants out, and someone wants Luo, and Lack and Eriksson don't live up to expectations, then maybe this happens, otherwise, I don't think so. Luongo's current recapture owed is about $7.5M. It increases by about $1.4M in each of the next 5 seasons. The recapture reaches a peak of $14M with 4 seasons to go, then decreases when his salary is lower than his cap hit in his last 4 seasons. IMO, his contract becomes more immovable as he gets older, and right now someone might have gambled on getting some of his prime years and worry about the balance of the contract later. In 3-4 years time, if his play has slipped, he's going to be tough to move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleShield Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Luongo's current recapture owed is about $7.5M. It increases by about $1.4M in each of the next 5 seasons. The recapture reaches a peak of $14M with 4 seasons to go, then decreases when his salary is lower than his cap hit in his last 4 seasons. IMO, his contract becomes more immovable as he gets older, and right now someone might have gambled on getting some of his prime years and worry about the balance of the contract later. In 3-4 years time, if his play has slipped, he's going to be tough to move. That's not how cap recapture works, though. You are only vulnerable for the years when the player is on your team. So if a team traded for him after the 2016 post season, this is how it would work out for them: 1 year (2017): Salary $6,714,000 - Cap $5,333,333 - Benefit $1,380,667 - Total Benefit $1,380,667 - 5 years remaining - Annual Recapture Penalty $276,133.40 2 years (2018): Salary $6,714,000 - Cap $5,333,333 - Benefit $1,380,667 - Total Benefit $2,761,334 - 4 years remaining - Annual Recapture Penalty $690,333.50 3 years (2019): Salary $3,382,000 - Cap $5,333,333 - Benefit -$1,951,333 - Total Benefit $810,001 - 3 years remaining - Annual Recapture Penalty $270,000.33 4 years (2020): Salary $1,618,000 - Cap $5,333,333 - Benefit -$3,715,333 - Total Benefit $0 - 2 years remaining - Annual Recapture Penalty $0 5 years (2021): Salary $1,000,000 - Cap $5,333,333 - Benefit -$4,333,333 - Total Benefit $0 - 1 year remaining - Annual Recapture Penalty $0 6 years (2022): Salary $1,000,000 - Cap $5,333,333 - Benefit -$4,333,333 - Total Benefit $0 - 0 years remaining - Annual Recapture Penalty $0 2016 means he'd need to play on for 4 years to avoid cap recapture for his new team, and 3 years (or 1 year) to have it being really small. 2017 recapture would be small if he retired after 1 year, and 0 if he stayed more than 1 year. Trading him after the 2018 postseason would mean his new team would not be liable for cap recapture. If he is still performing to a high standard then, he would be very enticing. At that point, the Canucks would be on the hook for $11,572,002 total, spread over the years remaining on his contract (if he retires early), working out as follows if he retires in the year listed: 2016: $1,928,667.00 per year for 6 years 2017: $2,314,400.40 per year for 5 years 2018: $2,893,000.50 per year for 4 years 2019: $3,857,334.00 per year for 3 years 2020: $5,786,001.00 per year for 2 years 2021: $11,572,002.00 per year for 1 year 2022: $0.00 per year for 0 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snipe City Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 lets do it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baer. Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 lets do it!!! He signed a 7 year $42 million contract with New Jersey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Holy necro thread Batman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 lets do it!!! Two things: 1) Why the necro bump? 2) New Jersey locked Schneider up to a 7 year deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 What a douche. The necro guy, not Schneids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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