Nuxfanabroad Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Karma is a pitbull chompin' on the Leafs rear, dating back to Harold Ballard requesting Roger Neilson to coach the team whilst donning a paper bag! Don't know why they were so lame from late 60's to that juncture, but by God!..HOW can a team with that amount of cash, & hordes & masses of passionate fans, be probably in the worst THREE teams(performance/points-wise) over the past three decades? It's utterly inconceivable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bookie Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 He is one of the better GMs in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In the Slot Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Cool. Did you meet him in person? When ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 So they have a 2nd line/3rd line tweener in Bozak, a good depth center in McClement, a prospect, and a guy in Bolland who used to be an elite shutdown center - but is now actually just a cap dump Chicago couldn't move fast enough (and were no doubt relieved as hell to do so and actually get something for him). http://www.behindthe... 34 45 46 63 67 Absolutely terrible underlying numbers for Bolland, worst on the Hawks, just a shade under 50% offensive zone starts, weak in the faceoff circle at 46% - all in all, a shadow of the player he used to be. Nonis got suckered imo, particularly heading into a cap drop offseason. Great move by Bowman, brain cramp of a move for Toronto, and then to turn around a buy out a far superior player in Grabovski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Do you think we would be better off if we trade Kesler and kept Hodgson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 I would be fine if the Canucks threaded Kesler for Kadri. TOR Kesler VAN Kadri Reilly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amish Rake Fighter Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 He is one of the better GMs in the league. He has some cap troubles but he has a pretty decent team in Toronto, while half of our core players in Vancouver are products of Nonis and Burke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Managing the cap is a huge part of being a GM in the NHL, Nonis is up against it without his top offensive defenceman and one of his top 2 centers. If he was one of the better GMs in the league, he wouldn't be in this situation. Burke and Nonis couldn't get out of the 2nd round with this core, Nonis didn't even make the playoffs in his last year here with the same core. Again not the work of one of the better GMs in the league. I was pretty excited when local boy Nonis took over the reins in Vancouver but after seeing what he did, I was happier when he left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Disagree, and I'm a rare Canucks AND Leafs fan. You judge a GM on his contracts, not his team, and contracts he has signed so far are horrid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sampy Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 A few times. Media scrum in Toronto years back (when Linden was still playing), and social stuff since. Just on the fringes type deal, no heart-to-hearts, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Your assessment of Bolland is far from correct. No the Hawks did not get rid of him at the first opportunity they got. Bolland suffered through injuries that derailed his season last year. The initial plan was to start him on as 2nd line center because the Hawks had no one who could fill in that role last year. Suffice to say that Bolland was not adequate at that role and Q knew that but still regarded Bolland highly enough to let him try. Bolland should never have played in an offensive role but he was our best center after Toews. Shaw and Kruger have been retained because they come cheaper and the Hawks needed the money to keep Bickell after his playoff performance. Bolland's salary made him a casualty, a million less and he would have stayed a Hawk. Bolland is still a good player, injuries have really been a problem for him the past few years. If he can get back to being healthy he is still one of the best 3rd liners in the game. I think Bolland will have a good year next year provided he stays healthy, he probably leaves as a UFA next year though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 No it would not be fine. That trade is a fail for both teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 I would be fine if the Canucks threaded Kesler for Kadri. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missioncanucksfan Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 He is one of the better GMs in the league. He has some cap troubles but he has a pretty decent team in Toronto, while half of our core players in Vancouver are products of Nonis and Burke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missioncanucksfan Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 How is it a fail for both teams? The Leafs get a 2C/3C that plays with his heart on his sleeve, The Canucks get Tortorella coachable players in both 2C Kadri and a future 1D that could make the team sooner rather than later, while the Canucks younger. A bright future comprised of: SHINKARUK HORVAT KASSIAN JENSEN KADRI GAUNCE REILLY TANEV SUBBAN LACK Tortorella is great with young players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 I have always like Nonis, but he has really buggered up the TML right now. Grabovski situation aside, signing Clarkson to that ridiculous contract screwed him with Kadri and Franson. Monumental mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missioncanucksfan Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 I have always like Nonis, but he has really buggered up the TML right now. Grabovski situation aside, signing Clarkson to that ridiculous contract screwed him with Kadri and Franson. Monumental mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Nonis is a cluster fluff.... Drafted seriously pooly here. Traded key draft picks for aging vets at the ends of their careers. A good assistant GM he is but not at running the show. Yes, he drafted Schnieder, Edler, and a few others in '04, but THAT scouting list was already in play from when Burke was here. Drafting Reilly was kind of a no-brainer being that high in the draft. Gauthier was actually a surprise to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Kadri's camp has it easy, because all they have to do is point at what TO gave Kessel after one decent year as an entry-level RFA: 5yrs, $5.4mil per. Given how Henrique got locked-up for 6 years, why wouldn't Kadri think he can't get 6x6? Basically, congrats, TO. You made the playoffs. Now it's time to pay the piper(s). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absent Canuck Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 I think Kesler needs to mature a bit. And hopefully the struggles the team has gone through, his own, and now with Torts as the coach, he will take the next step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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