higgyfan Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 With Henrik, Kesler, Horvat/Gaunce to clog up the middle... Daniel, zack, burrows, jensen, higgins, hansen and hunter to take the wings.... All in the future as well as now.... Where does JS fit in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 And Flames have one of the weakest lineups in the league to crack too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImallinRU Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Schroeder is a bust period. I'll say it now & you guys who dream can tell me I'm right when he returns from injury & is sent to the AHL so we can have a chance in the playoffs.... Hunter is twice JS already never mind in 3-4 yrs..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absent Canuck Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 He's not implying that Bo is not gonna be good, I think he's saying Schneider is arguably the top goalie in the world NOW & Bo is never gonna be the top centre in the league but he still will be good player & we needed help NOW...MG wanted more for Luongo than just a 1st rd pick then he gives up our younger * better goalie for less then what he was shopping Luuongo for.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImallinRU Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 I have a different opinion. It doesn't mean I am putting your opinion down. Its extremely tempting to claim that a fully developed Schneider at age 27 is 'better' than the 18 year old Bo Horvat who has never played a single NHL yet. Especially since Horvat is also a defensive guru so you dont see him on highlight reels as much as a Shinkaruk . It also helps Schneiders cause that he has played very well in pre season but with 1/2 rosters and half baked efforts, lets not carve his name into the Veznia quite yet. This trade is really about Eddie Lack . It was about Roberto Luongo, but that ended in disaster due to the CBA and Gillis' misread of the market for him. Now its about Eddie Lack being developed as well as Schneider was. If Eddie can even come close to being as good as Schneider is, then our organization came way out ahead on this deal. The Devils are no contenders. They will not make the playoffs and even if they do they will get blown away in the first round. They have a motley crue of malcontents who havent played together before. Sure they can pull off a Cinderella . Its far more likely they dont. This Horvat deal was before Kolvalchuk bolted. The Devils dont do that deal if they if they knew . They would far rather have the future Selke centerman. So we can point the finger all we want at fully developed Schneiders numbers but lets wait until we have a fully developed Horvat before we compare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dasein Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Guys, there's no way Shinkaruk sticks... His conditioning sucks and is nowhere near where it needs to be to survive a 82-game NHL schedule + a deep playoff run. He won't even have enough gas to even last til Olympic break in the NHL. He's running on adrenaline right now and even then he gets tired in the 3rd period. He's only a body that fills our roster until we get Kassian and Schroeder back from suspension and injury. Same goes for Horvat - he is in better shape but his skillset and skating could clearly develop more in the juniors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Guys, there's no way Shinkaruk sticks... His conditioning sucks and is nowhere near where it needs to be to survive a 82-game NHL schedule + a deep playoff run. He won't even have enough gas to even last til Olympic break in the NHL. He's running on adrenaline right now and even then he gets tired in the 3rd period. He's only a body that fills our roster until we get Kassian and Schroeder back from suspension and injury. Same goes for Horvat - he is in better shape but his skillset and skating could clearly develop more in the juniors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Lol @ CDC Knows nothing, called this in June Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabatoge95 Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 The opening line-up should be something like this Sedin - Sedin - Burrows Shinkaruk - Kesler - Higgins Booth - Horvat - Hansen Santorelli - Richardson - Weise Hamhuis - Bieksa Edler - Tanev Garrison - Weber Luongo That could actually work out. I really hope Shinkaruk can form some chemistry with Kesler, that could give us a deep line-up when Kassian returns. Sedin - Sedin - Kassian Shinkaruk - Kesler - Burrows Booth - Higgins - Hansen (Try Higgins as center to see if that works because we have too many wingers.) Santorelli - Richardson - Weise We should try to trade one of our wingers for a 3rd line C unless Horvat or Santorelli can step up. The 4th line is really weird and Gillis is going to have to fix it at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amish Rake Fighter Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 We should've got Bo for Lu & still had Cory plus a few mill more in cap space to boot..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absent Canuck Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 No one is saying Bo won't turn out. The facts are & you are saying it clearly as well "LET"S WAIT & SEE IN A FEW YEARS"... We traded the for sure thing for a lets wait & see player...... Plus MG miscalculated the whole Luongo thing by way over valuing him & asking way more in return for Lu then what he got for the BETTER & YOUNGER Schneider in the end........MG put the team in this desperate situation.....We should've got Bo for Lu & still had Cory plus a few mill more in cap space to boot..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benchsplinters Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Like Tort's said re; Corrado "he needs to play we are not going to keep him up here to play 8 or 9 minutes a game. Shinkaruk and Horvat have to basically beat out our top 9 forwards or they haven't a chance at sticking past 9 games. So who gets bumped to the 4th line if they do that? Sedins/Kassian Burrows/Kesler/Booth Higgins/Santorelli or Schroeder/Hansen I am pulling for the kids but it's a point a game or bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totes McGoats Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Kassian being played out of a job would be amazing. Trade the guy away for a bag of pucks for all I care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dasein Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 How did you figure this out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totes McGoats Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 It doesn't take a genius to notice. Hunter is gassed by the 3rd period. Watch him every shift - he starts to get tired in the latter half of his shifts in the 3rd and sometimes late in the 2nd period. He's been playing well but he won't be able to play well for 82 games and a deep playoff run... Compare his 1st 3 shifts with his last 3 - that should tell you that Hunter is not ready. Compare Henrik's 1st 3 shifts with his last 3 - it is the exact same. That's the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adniel_g Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Complete and utter crap. Shinkaruk has come on late in all the game's he's played. He's fast, not blindingly fast, but the speed is there when he needs it. This is the new NHL sir, and it's time for young guys to make the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mancaesar Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 People, you CANNOT succeed in the NHL without unbelievable conditioning unless you're Dustin Penner-huge or strictly an enforcer. If we can already tell Shinkaruk is getting worn out after playing 10 minutes, it's quite obvious that his conditioning isn't at the NHL level yet. And that's pretty normal for a teenager. He's not a physical freak like Crosby who is built like a tank and could skate through a wall at 18. Anyone who has ever played a sport should understand that it's way easier to get injured if you're exhausted. Many of you guys are suggesting that management should play with fire and defy the astronomically high odds that he'll get injured by keeping him in the lineup all year. Really? Conditioning, conditioning, conditioning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 I had zero doubt that these kids would be great in the long run but to be this well-developed at 18 says an awful lot. These were some dynamite picks. Always nice to be surprised in a good way by prospects. Doesn't happen all that often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Just a quicky, then they're gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonshinefe Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Great idea, I think both Horvat and Hunter Shinkaruk have been great for us so far, and they were claiming they wanted "to give the younger guys a chance"--well here it is. I couldn't be more excited for these two skater, Shinkaruk especially, I've liked him since the day we drafted him and I saw his sweet skills in WHL highlights =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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