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#1 AbbyNucksFan

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 08:50 AM

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The enormous Cyclone Phailin made landfall in the east Indian city of Gopalpur late Saturday morning, with the outer edge of its eye - 16 km across at its widest on Friday - coming ashore at a little over 6 p.m. local time and 8:30 a.m. Eastern Time, although the centre of the eye was not expected to reach land until the late morning.

At least three deaths were reported ahead of the storm, and trees and power lines were reported town across a huge swath of the coast.
Phailin is currently the largest storm in the world, and may be the largest ever recorded on Earth.
The huge storm sprawls across the Bay of Bengal, and is roughly the size of France. It boasts sustained winds of 241 km/h, with gusts of almost 300 km/h.


Strong winds and heavy rains ahead of the storm pounded communities up and down the coastlines of four states, together comprising a population of more than 250 million people.
Storm surge of up to nine metres is possible, although Indian officials say it would only max out at around three metres.
Posted Image TUNE IN: We will be providing extended coverage of Cyclone Phailin on TV. Tune in for the latest updates.
Residents were making storm preparations with the 1999 Orissa cyclone in mind. The death toll from that storm was more than 10,000, although officials in the region say the country is better prepared this time.
The Associated Press reports around 600,000 people have been moved to higher ground.
Still, major power and communications disruptions are expected, along with severe crop damage.
The storm's sheer size and intensity have prompted comparisons to Katrina, although forecasters make significant distinctions between hurricanes, typhoons and cyclones.
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Posted 12 October 2013 - 08:54 AM

There is no evidence of climate change...
There is no evidence of climate change...
There is no evidence of climate change...
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Posted 12 October 2013 - 09:03 AM

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There is no evidence of climate change...
There is no evidence of climate change...
There is no evidence of climate change...


There's been evidence of climate change throughout the entire history of earth. Climate is always changing
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Posted 12 October 2013 - 09:13 AM

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Hope that nobody needs technical support today...
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Posted 12 October 2013 - 09:39 AM

"Phailin is currently the largest storm in the world, and may be the largest ever recorded on Earth."

Edited by Dittohead, 12 October 2013 - 09:41 AM.

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 09:43 AM

India is so densely populated and the structures there are very unsophisticated, so this may be extremely deadly.

Edited by Hodgson!!, 12 October 2013 - 09:43 AM.

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 10:05 AM

In before Illuminate,
HAARP,
Population control,
Bettman hates Canucks...
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Posted 12 October 2013 - 10:12 AM

i will be praying that it takes out the call centre that harrasses our landline every second day and kills everybody inside it.
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Posted 12 October 2013 - 10:17 AM

There's been evidence of climate change throughout the entire history of earth. Climate is always changing


Willful denial. So, if the Earth's climate changes very rapidly are we prepared? No.

There is also 6,000 years of proof of humans destroying habitats, including our own, and completely eradicating soil.

Keep thinking we aren't killing our ability to sustain in this planet. I'm sure we are faaaaaar toooooooo insignificant to change the surface of the planet measurably. Oh, that's right.....it is measurable.

Where is MadMonk when you need him? Paging MadMonk.

Edited by theminister, 12 October 2013 - 10:17 AM.

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 10:21 AM

the answer is sooooooo simple. destroy all sentient beings......CDC should be safe.

Edited by MANGO, 12 October 2013 - 10:23 AM.

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 10:25 AM

Willful denial. So, if the Earth's climate changes very rapidly are we prepared? No.

There is also 6,000 years of proof of humans destroying habitats, including our own, and completely eradicating soil.

Keep thinking we aren't killing our ability to sustain in this planet. I'm sure we are faaaaaar toooooooo insignificant to change the surface of the planet measurably. Oh, that's right.....it is measurable.

Where is MadMonk when you need him? Paging MadMonk.



I can't believe that worked, I actually see him reading the thread.
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Posted 12 October 2013 - 11:19 AM

The huge storm sprawls across the Bay of Bengal, and is roughly the size of France. It boasts sustained winds of 241 km/h, with gusts of almost 300 km/h.


:shock:

Edited by Alchemy Time, 12 October 2013 - 11:24 AM.

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 11:56 AM

This is gonna be ugly..... :(
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Posted 12 October 2013 - 12:21 PM

So how many games will Edler get for this massive storm hitting India?

Edited by hsedin33, 12 October 2013 - 12:31 PM.

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 12:37 PM

In before Illuminate,
HAARP,
Population control,
Bettman hates Canucks...


This is correct. The shape shifting reptilians in the UN and the American government are once again testing the power of HAARP. As it is their goal to enslave the human race, they also want to drastically reduce the population to make this easier. It is also true that Bettman is a shape shifting reptilian whose goal is to sabotage the Canucks along with the other Canadian teams and the NHL as a whole. Unfortunately for him he's such a doofus that he was exiled long ago from their moon space cruiser headquarters. He's a rogue shape shifter now. I just hope the Annunaki return in time to save the human race before the reptilians win.
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Posted 12 October 2013 - 03:16 PM

Wouldn't be surprised if this storm gets raped.
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Posted 12 October 2013 - 03:19 PM

So how many games will Edler get for this massive storm hitting India?


None - the blame will probably be shouldered (elbowed?) on Raffi Torres.
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Posted 13 October 2013 - 05:10 AM

I can't believe that worked, I actually see him reading the thread.


well it is a weather related thread, I'm a sucker for these.
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Posted 13 October 2013 - 05:27 AM

On a related note, while the strength of tropical cyclones is expected to increase due to global warming, this is a theoretical prediction, and as far as I know there is currently insufficient observational data to support or refute this. MOdels are not good enough to give us useful information either.
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Posted 13 October 2013 - 10:02 AM

As long as this doesn't effect butter chicken I'm ok with it
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Posted 13 October 2013 - 11:56 AM

There is no evidence of climate change...
There is no evidence of climate change...
There is no evidence of climate change...


This is exactly the type of post that causes people to be skeptics.

Storms happen all the time. Large storms happen fairly often. Just using random statistics, if you wait long enough, you'll record a storm that is larger than any you have seen before.

Heck, astronomers just observed the largest storm ever recorded on Saturn recently. Is that evidence of climate change too?
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Posted 13 October 2013 - 12:20 PM

As long as this doesn't effect butter chicken I'm ok with it


And brown babes. Ahem
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Posted 13 October 2013 - 12:23 PM

On a related note, while the strength of tropical cyclones is expected to increase due to global warming, this is a theoretical prediction, and as far as I know there is currently insufficient observational data to support or refute this. MOdels are not good enough to give us useful information either.


Haha, seriously? Look outside...
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Posted 13 October 2013 - 06:36 PM

Haha, seriously? Look outside...


This is from the latest IPCC assessment report (AR5), chapter 10 (link)

There is low confidence in attribution of changes in tropical cyclone activity to human influence due to
insufficient observational evidence, lack of physical understanding of the links between anthropogenic
drivers of climate and tropical cyclone activity and the low level of agreement between studies as to the
relative importance of internal variability, and anthropogenic and natural forcings.




The theoretical basis for global warming causing stronger tropical cyclones (TCs) is fairly straight forward: the wind speed is largely depend on the temperature difference between the surface and the top of the troposphere (around 11-14km or so). Greenhouse gases is warms the surface while cooling the upper atmosphere, which is exactly the recipe for stronger tropical cyclones.

One issue is that severe lack of data: global weather satellites coverage only began after the 1970's, and thus prior to that you only have land/ship based measurements; even then the strength of cyclones often has to be measured by sending planes in and out of TCs, which is ok for North America, but less so for say, Indian Ocean.

It also depend on the metric one uses. If you use accumulated cyclone energy index, for N. Atlantic it looks like this:

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It is hard to argue for any clear trend. On the other hand, if you use power dissipation index (which is argued to be closer related to the actual damage, see Emanuel 2005):
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Even though there is a clear trend since 1970, a confound is that the N. Atlantic has its own internal variability, and it is difficulty to tease out anthropogenic from natural variability in this case.


On the modelling front, it is only in recent years that climate models are able to get to resolution needed to say something useful about hurricanes: although they sound large, they are actually quit tiny on the grand scheme of things: they are typically several 100's of km large, and climate models have only recently reached resolutions of 100km (some at 50km I think); however they are still too expensive to run to get sufficiently good statistics.

The bright side is that I think it is an exciting time (all hurricane talks I've been to starts with the presenter showing a movie of a climate model output, and enthusiastically pointing out the hurricane-like structures), and I think over the next decade or so we'll have a much better picture of how global warming affects tropical cyclones.
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Posted 16 October 2013 - 01:03 AM

The govt did well to reduce the number of casualties. Could've been real bad
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