Spotted Zebra Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Don't get me wrong, while he has never been my favourite player on this team, I've never had, and don't have anything against the guy. All I'm wondering, is how come everyone on CDC is so quick to bash guys like Kesler, Edler, Bieksa, Booth, Luu, and to a lesser extent, the Sedins. Whereas when it comes to Burr, a lot of people, myself included tend to turn a blind eye to it? He's a good player, not great, but good. However, if Ryan Kesler goes 10 games without a goal, that story is likely the headline of the sports section in the Vancouver Sun, and there's at least 5 topics on it on CDC. If Luongo gets blown out you hear about it. Burr has gone what 15/16 games without a goal and the most you hear is a murmur. I used to think it was because of his cheap contract which I applaud him for, but he cashed in at 4.5M, and I think a lot of us forget than when assesing him. He plays first line minutes mostly every game, and sure he gets chances, but we've seen how many goals chances will buy. Don't mistake this for a hate thread, it's not. I'm sincerely curious. Is it the ECHL Story, is it the hometown discounts? Is it Canuck fans clinging onto his goals of the 2011 post season? Why does he seemingly get off scott free It seems a little hypocritical if you ask me. Are we evaluating players on what they are bringing to the team right now, or our memories of them? -------- Just to be clear, I'm not saying trade him, nor am I saying he's not a good player haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 He is the only one that earned his contract. he took less money on his previous contract than was offered. he shuts up and does his job in every situation on the ice and until this season did it incredibly well. The other guys were given great contracts for almost nothing. Burrows is also a home grown product who was never drafted and by all rights never should have been in the league but made it through hard work alone. He is not getting a pass by any means as I expect endless threads about him shortly besides the famous "Burrows, do we really need him" thread which has seen serious action as of late. But he is the one guy on this team not named Sedin which has earned a shade of leniency from us fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket. Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Bieksa has proven himself this year, so has Lu and the Sedins and to some extent Kesler. Edler is being called out cause he's inconsistent. All those players used to be called out of the same reason but now they are consistent. Burrows on the other hand plays consistently almost every game but is really just snakebitten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Because he does so much away from the puck. Chirp, defensive game, special teams, close games he really shows up. He is a playoff performer in my opinion, when Sedins get stopped we go to Burrows, Kesler, Kassian, Higgins, Hansen for scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronalds.Kenins41 Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Cause he is actually playing well and generating chances just not getting the luck. CDC bashes when they see high cap hit guys not producing and not giving any effort. With Burrows the effort is there and always was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieCrumbs Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Couldn't agree more. However, if I get myself going over Burrows it'll never stop. I'm going to take a step back and not derail a good thread with room for lots of discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spotted Zebra Posted November 30, 2013 Author Share Posted November 30, 2013 He is the only one that earned his contract. he took less money on his previous contract than was offered. he shuts up and does his job in every situation on the ice and until this season did it incredibly well. The other guys were given great contracts for almost nothing. Burrows is also a home grown product who was never drafted and by all rights never should have been in the league but made it through hard work alone. He is not getting a pass by any means as I expect endless threads about him shortly besides the famous "Burrows, do we really need him" thread which has seen serious action as of late. But he is the one guy on this team not named Sedin which has earned a shade of leniency from us fans. This is what I'm talking about. If Burr had no relation to the Canucks whatsover and signed a 1 year deal at 4.5 M this Summer, how would you feel about his play this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spotted Zebra Posted November 30, 2013 Author Share Posted November 30, 2013 Because he does so much away from the puck. Chirp, defensive game, special teams, close games he really shows up. He is a playoff performer in my opinion, when Sedins get stopped we go to Burrows, Kesler, Kassian, Higgins, Hansen for scoring. While I agree with you 100%, that doesn't equal to long term investment for an older player at 4.5 M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horvat 53 Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 He's lots getting chances which is probably why nobody is on him like white on rice, everybody was on Booth because when he played we could barely see him on the ice. Burrows is a good player for us and I think he will continue to show it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spotted Zebra Posted November 30, 2013 Author Share Posted November 30, 2013 For everyone saying that Burr is getting a lot of chances, I think we have selective memory. That was the story of David Booth before his ankle injury last season. Believe it or not, he was playing quality hockey and was usually an inch or two from scoring when he got a chance. Granted he didn't but yes he got good chances. However I don't think I need to explain that the reaction to his lack of production was much different that Burr's right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 This is what I'm talking about. If Burr had no relation to the Canucks whatsover and signed a 1 year deal at 4.5 M this Summer, how would you feel about his play this year? Based on history and past performance, he's a valuable member of the team and a playoff performer of which we don't really have many we could call "clutch" He tries hard and is obviously snakebitten, had he hit even 50% of those posts in a better angle that goes in the net he's got almost 10 goals already and this team has at least 2 or 3 more wins under its belt. effort need be rewarded at all times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronalds.Kenins41 Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Don't get me wrong, while he has never been my favourite player on this team, I've never had, and don't have anything against the guy. All I'm wondering, is how come everyone on CDC is so quick to bash guys like Kesler, Edler, Bieksa, Booth, Luu, and to a lesser extent, the Sedins. Whereas when it comes to Burr, a lot of people, myself included tend to turn a blind eye to it? He's a good player, not great, but good. However, if Ryan Kesler goes 10 games without a goal, that story is likely the headline of the sports section in the Vancouver Sun, and there's at least 5 topics on it on CDC. If Luongo gets blown out you hear about it. Burr has gone what 15/16 games without a goal and the most you hear is a murmur. I used to think it was because of his cheap contract which I applaud him for, but he cashed in at 4.5M, and I think a lot of us forget than when assesing him. He plays first line minutes mostly every game, and sure he gets chances, but we've seen how many goals chances will buy. Don't mistake this for a hate thread, it's not. I'm sincerely curious. Is it the ECHL Story, is it the hometown discounts? Is it Canuck fans clinging onto his goals of the 2011 post season? Why does he seemingly get off scott free It seems a little hypocritical if you ask me. Are we evaluating players on what they are bringing to the team right now, or our memories of them? -------- Just to be clear, I'm not saying trade him, nor am I saying he's not a good player haha This is what I'm talking about. If Burr had no relation to the Canucks whatsover and signed a 1 year deal at 4.5 M this Summer, how would you feel about his play this year? While I agree with you 100%, that doesn't equal to long term investment for an older player at 4.5 M. I see what you did there. Clever.... very clever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliboy Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 He brings the burr every night. He'll start scoring when he starts scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benchsplinters Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Don't get me wrong, while he has never been my favourite player on this team, I've never had, and don't have anything against the guy. All I'm wondering, is how come everyone on CDC is so quick to bash guys like Kesler, Edler, Bieksa, Booth, Luu, and to a lesser extent, the Sedins. Whereas when it comes to Burr, a lot of people, myself included tend to turn a blind eye to it? He's a good player, not great, but good. However, if Ryan Kesler goes 10 games without a goal, that story is likely the headline of the sports section in the Vancouver Sun, and there's at least 5 topics on it on CDC. If Luongo gets blown out you hear about it. Burr has gone what 15/16 games without a goal and the most you hear is a murmur. I used to think it was because of his cheap contract which I applaud him for, but he cashed in at 4.5M, and I think a lot of us forget than when assesing him. He plays first line minutes mostly every game, and sure he gets chances, but we've seen how many goals chances will buy. Don't mistake this for a hate thread, it's not. I'm sincerely curious. Is it the ECHL Story, is it the hometown discounts? Is it Canuck fans clinging onto his goals of the 2011 post season? Why does he seemingly get off scott free It seems a little hypocritical if you ask me. Are we evaluating players on what they are bringing to the team right now, or our memories of them? -------- Just to be clear, I'm not saying trade him, nor am I saying he's not a good player haha IMVHO, I wish all players on the team contributed in the same tenacious way that Burrows does every game. You speak of him as though he is not worthy to be a Canuck. If you knew anything about the game you would realize that all players experience scoring droughts like the one he is going through right now. No he is not contributing to the scoring as he has in the past, however pay more attention to what he does beside score goals. Try looking at what a player does on the ice with and without the puck rather than focus on scoring. Stop missing half the game you watch. He is an extremely good defensive player. He is a definite threat to score short handed goals against any team in the league and he is not afraid to go to any of the dirty areas and mix it up with any player. Alex Burrows is and always has been an asset to the team. He has had very good years in the last five years. Don't sell him short because he has not had any puck luck. He will get it back, never fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 While I agree with you 100%, that doesn't equal to long term investment for an older player at 4.5 M. Yeah, it is a bit of a risk because who knows if he can keep it up till his contract goes up when he hits 37? After that I would let him walk if he slows down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 I love Burr but in all honesty if he had a few more goals this season, we'd likely have a few more wins. His salary isn't depended just on him working hard and playing well defensively he earned it by putting points on the board. As of right now he definitely isn't earning his salary and it a big part of the teams scoring troubles so far. With that all said.... When players tend to go on slumps it usually affects their other play. When Kesler was slumping at the beginning of the year he was almost invisible and not generating anything, Burrows has been close every game and I think the reason he gets a bit of a free pass because we can all see its only a matter of time before he breaks this slump and goes on a tear. No one realistically see this lasting all year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Those of us watching the games are seeing Burrows get quality chances, and create opportunities for his linemates. Burr has always tended to score his goals in bunches. He'll get it going. Plus, the guy's the heart of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Not at 4.5 he doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spur1 Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 When Burrows scores it is a huge bonus....however he does so much in other ways that there is no way you can slag him for not scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 I agree with those who believe that Burrows has earned his free pass. And even after he has earned that pass, he's working on getting another. regards, G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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