Peaches Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Besides, Torts would despise Raymond. He's the opposite of everything he stands for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nux4lyfe Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Raymond just wasn't working with us, Good for him but it's time to move on.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n00bxQb Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 So now that everyone has accepted that Grabner's single good season was a complete anomaly (8 points in 25 games this year, hasn't posted above 0.5 ppg in last 3 seasons), we've moved onto Raymond because of a hot start (which he had every year with us, too)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck nit Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Not realising the asset to improve the fortunes of the club is the issue. Mason will do much better with center men that will pass him the puck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Are people ever going to let this go? Probably not. Although the people who won't get over it will be the same people who say we made the right decision in letting him go once he disappears late in the regular season/during the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 What makes anyone think that he would've signed here for just $1mil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanucklehead10 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 It's like how great and consistently Santorelli is playing for us... he needed a change in scenery from Florida and Raymond from Vancouver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklehead44 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Bad fit with the Canucks. He and Kesler didn't work well together and his play didn't suit the Sedins. I liked him with Schroeder and Hansen, and I am sure he would do alright with Santorelli but it was time for him to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksSayEh Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 He was hit by a string of injuries, one of which being very serious and took time to come back from. His last fully healthy season here, he scored 25 goals and 53p. After that was the wrist, then the back. Even at his current pace, it will be hard to crack his career year. I don't buy that the East has helped him that much, a little, but think he could be pretty close if he was still here. He's just a good healthy player now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuck-Shot Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 too soft in the playoffs gets pushed off the puck and doesn't like backchecking... he was as as good on the backcheck as kesler almost, its going to the net that he cant do, and yes... bambi balance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemmy Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 It doesn't matter. 1.) He is no longer Canuck property. 2.) Even (especially) if he continues this pace, Leafs won't be able to afford to sign him next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down by the River Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Raymond is responsible defensively; he was quite good on the Canucks' PK. He needed a fresh start. 28 teams didn't want to give him one, even TO only initially gave him a PTO. "We don't need a Mason Raymond type player" - Jay Feaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpcurtly Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Any of our forwards would look like studs on the leafs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laheys Liquor Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Just wait until he gets into playoff form.. Which in other words is to do his best Casper impression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl's Jn Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Mason Raymond has ten goals and nine assists and is plus 5 with the Leafs in 28 games. His skill set would have been very valuable to us this year. How did we come to undervalue him so much? new team, new linemates, new atmosphere. A change was needed and it just turned out good for Raymond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Raymond sucks, always has always will be a soft player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blömqvist Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Conference bias is mainly all BS. The region you play in doesn't add or subtract from a players abilities. Mason Raymond vs the West Games:12 Goals: 5 Assists: 4 Points: 9 Raymond actually has a higher PPG against the West. 9 points in 12 games against the West while he has 10 points in 16 games against the East (5 goals, 5 assists). Interesting point! Does that mean Raymond was never really given a chance with quality players and ice-time here in Vancouver? IIRC his breakout year was with Kesler and Samuelsson, and the year after we got Booth. Him, Higgins, Hansen, and Booth bounced back and forth between the 2nd and 3rd lines. Now Raymond is used in a scoring role playing with guys like Kessel, Lupul, Kadri, Clarkson, and Bolland. Or is it simply Toronto's offensive system more suited to Raymond's style of play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksSayEh Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Interesting point! Does that mean Raymond was never really given a chance with quality players and ice-time here in Vancouver? IIRC his breakout year was with Kesler and Samuelsson, and the year after we got Booth. Him, Higgins, Hansen, and Booth bounced back and forth between the 2nd and 3rd lines. Now Raymond is used in a scoring role playing with guys like Kessel, Lupul, Kadri, Clarkson, and Bolland. Or is it simply Toronto's offensive system more suited to Raymond's style of play? Nagging injuries, his shot suffered from his wrist, then back being broken. That quick release gets him a lot of his goals, his balance also suffered, and wasn't able to take advantage of his speed. He's just healthy now. Some good players to run and gun with on TO too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chauncey Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Leafs suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roland Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 This sums up Raymond in less than 1 minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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