Warhippy Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/northern-gateway-pipeline-recommended-for-federal-approval-with-conditions-1.2470465 A joint review panel has recommended the federal government approveEnbridge's Northern Gateway pipeline project, with conditions. The approval hinges on 209 required conditions, including developing a marine mammal protection plan, researching heavy oil cleanup and conducting emergency response exercises. The recommendation comes after more than a year of hearings in B.C. and Alberta. The final decision, however, rests with the federal government, which has 180 days to decide. Northern Gateway pipeline project: 6 things to know Northern Gateway pipeline by the numbers On mobile? Click here to view interactive The $6.5-billion pipeline would take bitumen from Alberta's oilsands to the B.C. coast for tanker export to Asia. But the controversial proposal has pitted Calgary-based Enbridge against environmental groups and several First Nations. The pipeline has also been a lightning rod in the debate over climate change and has raised concerns about the effects an oil spill would have on environmentally sensitive areas along the B.C. coast. The B.C. government had told the panel it did not support the pipeline as proposed, and more than 130 aboriginal bands signed a declaration against the project. Alberta Premier Alison Redford had said she hoped the panel would endorse the proposed pipeline as her province strives to diversify market access for the oilsands. Both the federal NDP and Liberals have voiced opposition to the project. ------------------------------------------------------ The first nations groups in this province have not agreed, the people have not approved. This has only been approved because it benefits "all Canadians" But when asked about the people living on the coast in BC who would be affected in the event of a major spill the panel shuffled papers and kept reading. When asked about the loss of $1.4 billion in salmon and sport fishing the panel ignored the speaker. When asked about the $2.2 billion in tourism revenue lost int he event of a spill the panel kept reading and ignored the speaker. The Clark government in BC is applauding this. They will receive $40 million a yer $1.2 billion over 30 years. The Alberta government is applauding this, they will receive $32 billion over 30 years The federal government is applauding this, they will receive almost $40 billion over 30 years. The first nations speaker stood up at the end of the hearing and very clearly spoke. If you want a war in the woods we have just been invited to give you one. As a citizen of BC and Canada I feel lied to betrayed and cheated right now. The most telling feature from all of this is that under the FIPA/CIPA had this not gone through China and Chinese owned companies operating in canada had the rights to sue BC and the feds for tens of billions in "lost revenue" Thanks for voting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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aGENT Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 The Clark government in BC is applauding this. They will receive $40 million a yer $1.2 billion over 30 years. The Alberta government is applauding this, they will receive $32 billion over 30 years The federal government is applauding this, they will receive almost $40 billion over 30 years. The first nations speaker stood up at the end of the hearing and very clearly spoke. If you want a war in the woods we have just been invited to give you one. As a citizen of BC and Canada I feel lied to betrayed and cheated right now. The most telling feature from all of this is that under the FIPA/CIPA had this not gone through China and Chinese owned companies operating in canada had the rights to sue BC and the feds for tens of billions in "lost revenue" Thanks for voting. Sadly this part of the article, particularly the bolded, sums up why we never really had any say in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted December 19, 2013 Author Share Posted December 19, 2013 Watch the proceedings. It was a travesty and a complete farce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted December 19, 2013 Author Share Posted December 19, 2013 Sadly this part of the article, particularly the bolded, sums up why we never really had any say in this. Clark has agreed to this saying ti is an economic boon to BC but one spill wipes out more in 1 year of fishing than 30 years of tax royalties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightHawkSniper Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Oh it's never about the money... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFBR392 Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 The sad thing is, we all probably knew this was going to happen no matter what. This ends badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Clark has agreed to this saying ti is an economic boon to BC but one spill wipes out more in 1 year of fishing than 30 years of tax royalties You're actually expecting politicians to have long term vision when there's dollar signs blocking their sight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 What's amazing to me is that people who are against this have no alternative solution to get the oil to Asia. It is going to get there one way or another. They just like to complain. The governments and what have you have come up with 209 conditions before any oil can move down the line. This might not be the 100% guaranteed no issues whatsoever solution, but it's the best they have right now. Transporting by vehicle would create far more chances that something goes wrong and more greenhouse gases. Do I have a better solution? Nope, I'm afraid not. Am I happy with the current solution? Not really, but I see how it's the best way right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalie13 Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Was there ever any doubt? I'm surprised that people would actually think this would not unfold as it has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted December 19, 2013 Author Share Posted December 19, 2013 The first nations chief has threatened a war in the woods to make Oka and Clayoquat look like playground spats in comparison. He has just stated that you can bring the army in and we will bury them in the same ground as the promises of this federal government. The day the army starts following the orders of the corporate controlled government instead of the people is the day we have lost democracy anyways. Way to go Phillip, good ol Penticton boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted December 19, 2013 Author Share Posted December 19, 2013 What's amazing to me is that people who are against this have no alternative solution to get the oil to Asia. It is going to get there one way or another. They just like to complain. The governments and what have you have come up with 209 conditions before any oil can move down the line. This might not be the 100% guaranteed no issues whatsoever solution, but it's the best they have right now. Transporting by vehicle would create far more chances that something goes wrong and more greenhouse gases. Do I have a better solution? Nope, I'm afraid not. Am I happy with the current solution? Not really, but I see how it's the best way right now. $1.2 billion over 30 years. Alberta and the Feds will share just shy of $80 billion. Really? I am not against a pipeline so much as I am against the bend me over and do it dry attitude BC is giving and or getting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronalds.Kenins41 Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 $1.2 billion over 30 years. Alberta and the Feds will share just shy of $80 billion. Really? I am not against a pipeline so much as I am against the bend me over and do it dry attitude BC is giving and or getting Wasn't that the reason they didn't want to do the pipeline. How did Christie lose out on everything. Sad day in BC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 $1.2 billion over 30 years. Alberta and the Feds will share just shy of $80 billion. Really? I am not against a pipeline so much as I am against the bend me over and do it dry attitude BC is giving and or getting Yeah, I'm surprised they accepted for such a small piece of the pie as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tearloch7 Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 There WILL be blood .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inane Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 It's not approved. This is just the recommendation. Now they have to deal with First Nations, the environmental people, etc...this is far from being approved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Grimes Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Well, so much for Canada. Any room on the moon? This planet sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket. Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 The sad thing is, we all probably knew this was going to happen no matter what. This ends badly. Yep, pretty much this. The rich get richer, put lives of civilians, animals, natural habitats at risk. This is going to be awful. Only way I'd approve is if they drop our gas prices here in lower mainland/Vancouver area to $1 but even then I don't know if that'd be worth the risk. Not a fan of a pipeline in our backyard, just too dangerous. I kid guys, never meant what I said about being okay with it if has prices drop lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthecivil Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 The first nations chief has threatened a war in the woods to make Oka and Clayoquat look like playground spats in comparison. He has just stated that you can bring the army in and we will bury them in the same ground as the promises of this federal government. The day the army starts following the orders of the corporate controlled government instead of the people is the day we have lost democracy anyways. Way to go Phillip, good ol Penticton boy Who made them the ultimate unvoted for authority of the land? If they want to illegally start a violent campaign let them - we can then just toss them in jail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilduce39 Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 40 million a year doesn't seem like much for the risk involved. Less than 2/3rds of the Canucks annual salary to risk the natural beauty of our Province, which I would argue is a huge part of our identity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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