Northern Gateway Pipeline KILLED

[DeNiro]

55 minutes ago, clam linguine said:

Many holy British Columbians rage about the tiny possibility of an oil spill while happily pumping two tankers of raw filth into the Ocean every week.  It's hypocrisy of the highest order.  The Victoria sewer problem could be handled for under a billion dollars.  Trans Mountain could be the greenest initiative in BC history if the government wanted to use pipeline profits to finally fix the sewer embarrassment.

 

A tiny possibility is still too high when you consider the impacts. BC relies too much on tourism and fishing to take that risk.

 

Sorry to the rest of Canada but we've got to protect our own interests.

 

And comparing raw sewage to oil? Don't really see the connection. One of those things isn't going to wipe out entire ecosystems.

[Violator]

9 minutes ago, DeNiro said:

 

A tiny possibility is still too high when you consider the impacts. BC relies too much on tourism and fishing to take that risk.

 

Sorry to the rest of Canada but we've got to protect our own interests.

 

And comparing raw sewage to oil? Don't really see the connection. One of those things isn't going to wipe out entire ecosystems.

The fishing industry in BC is pretty much dead few more years and it will be.

[inane]

15 minutes ago, clam linguine said:

I believe British Columbia is the only province to still condone this practice.  Or is it the only City in North America?  But yeah...I know...your $&!# don't stink.  But surely some of it does.  How Much?  1%?

Seriously, look it up. Please.

[DeNiro]

3 minutes ago, Violator said:

The fishing industry in BC is pretty much dead few more years and it will be.

 

Until it rebounds like it always does.

[Violator]

3 minutes ago, DeNiro said:

 

Until it rebounds like it always does.

Nope it's never gonna rebound over population and foreign poaching has killed it.t he fleet is under two hundred ships and dropping.

[clam linguine]

16 hours ago, DeNiro said:

 

A tiny possibility is still too high when you consider the impacts. BC relies too much on tourism and fishing to take that risk.

 

Sorry to the rest of Canada but we've got to protect our own land.

 

And comparing raw sewage to oil? Don't really see the connection. One of those things isn't going to wipe out entire ecosystems.

Keep an open mind because the oil industry does more for BC than you think.  My two kids are making money in AB right now instead of crawling through your basement window.

 

If one percent of the sewage is toxic it's an easy call that sewer is more globally harmful even if the thin possibility of a spill did occurr.   But to your credit, you are about economics and optics.  So sure, the sewer is out of sight out of mind.

 

Oh, hydro dams wipe out ecosystems.  Oil spills get cleaned up, especially now that we will get a response crew on the coast.

[DeNiro]

3 minutes ago, Violator said:

Nope it's never gonna rebound over population and foreign poaching has killed it.t he fleet is under two hundred ships and dropping.

 

Industries can always rebound if given the proper attention.

 

Fishing is still a huge part of tourism here regardless if we're selling our seafood globally.

[Violator]

7 minutes ago, DeNiro said:

 

Industries can always rebound if given the proper attention.

 

Fishing is still a huge part of tourism here regardless if we're selling our seafood globally.

Just what I hear from people and family members in the industry.n ot arguing against a rebound but a moratorium on fishing for ten or more years would help.

[chon derry]

1 hour ago, Violator said:

Nope it's never gonna rebound over population and foreign poaching has killed it.t he fleet is under two hundred ships and dropping.

theres approx 250 seiners , 500 trollers, 1000 gill netters.on the whole coast.  Commercial fishing is a shadow of its former self locally the last cannery stopped canning ,and now deals in fresh or frozen salmon and has to compete with farm fish. thats the way the global demand is going. commercial salmon sector is cyclical ,like albertas oil economy, stocks vary because of numerous factors.  how ever the fish charter thing has been constant for 25 years but recently its been hit with lower #s due to the alberta economy, the money derived from chartering is substantial and its easier on the stocks, so ironically the fishing industry see's oil as a clear threat, how ever the salmon/halibut charter thing is some what reliant on the albertan dollar. 

[Violator]

51 minutes ago, chon derry said:

theres approx 250 seiners , 500 trollers, 1000 gill netters.on the whole coast.  Commercial fishing is a shadow of its former self locally the last cannery stopped canning ,and now deals in fresh or frozen salmon and has to compete with farm fish. thats the way the global demand is going. commercial salmon sector is cyclical ,like albertas oil economy, stocks vary because of numerous factors.  how ever the fish charter thing has been constant for 25 years but recently its been hit with lower #s due to the alberta economy, the money derived from chartering is substantial and its easier on the stocks, so ironically the fishing industry see's oil as a clear threat, how ever the salmon/halibut charter thing is some what reliant on the albertan dollar. 

Albertans love BC they spend most summers and winters in bc.

[ronthecivil]

13 hours ago, DeNiro said:

 

A tiny possibility is still too high when you consider the impacts. BC relies too much on tourism and fishing to take that risk.

 

Sorry to the rest of Canada but we've got to protect our own interests.

 

And comparing raw sewage to oil? Don't really see the connection. One of those things isn't going to wipe out entire ecosystems.

 

Sorry to say but the way our constitution works it's the national interest  that trumps everything. You can literally vote in the green party, have all the local mayors and politicians have a sit in to get in the way of the bulldozers, and the feds will just get an injunction against them and have them cleared out.

 

It's that much money to them. How the heck do you think they plan on funding their crazy plans? 

[kingofsurrey]

4 hours ago, ronthecivil said:

 

Sorry to say but the way our constitution works it's the national interest  that trumps everything. You can literally vote in the green party, have all the local mayors and politicians have a sit in to get in the way of the bulldozers, and the feds will just get an injunction against them and have them cleared out.

 

It's that much money to them. How the heck do you think they plan on funding their crazy plans? 

This pipeline is dead .

 

Not going to happen.  Just  JT  trying to show support for a  fellow lefty in Alberta.

 

CDN governement does not have the nuts to confront BC First Nations.   Roughly two-thirds of the First Nations directly affected by the pipeline project have not signed letters of support for the project.   If JT  wants to have a war in BC , then bring it on. 

[clam linguine]

On 12/6/2016 at 3:34 PM, kingofsurrey said:

This pipeline is dead .

 

Not going to happen.  Just  JT  trying to show support for a  fellow lefty in Alberta.

 

CDN governement does not have the nuts to confront BC First Nations.   Roughly two-thirds of the First Nations directly affected by the pipeline project have not signed letters of support for the project.   If JT  wants to have a war in BC , then bring it on. 

You are probably correct on all counts, but the last sentence is pure bravado.  IF JT wants war, the First Nation Luddites and  the CBC inspired minions of George Soros will lose.

[Mustapha]

12 minutes ago, kingofsurrey said:

This pipeline is dead .

 

Not going to happen.  Just  JT  trying to show support for a  fellow lefty in Alberta.

 

CDN governement does not have the nuts to confront BC First Nations.   Roughly two-thirds of the First Nations directly affected by the pipeline project have not signed letters of support for the project.   If JT  wants to have a war in BC , then bring it on. 

 

I agree. Prince Justin is all about optics,  not substance.  He wouldn't dare stand up to the First Nations, he would risk looking like a white nationalist colonial oppressor. 

 

Remember the SJW creed:

 

If their skin is white, its ok to fight.

 

But if it's brown,  you better stand down.

 

I only voted for the guy because he promised he would legalize weed. I wish he would hurry up and get that done so we can boot his ass out of Ottawa in 2019.

[ronthecivil]

2 hours ago, kingofsurrey said:

This pipeline is dead .

 

Not going to happen.  Just  JT  trying to show support for a  fellow lefty in Alberta.

 

CDN governement does not have the nuts to confront BC First Nations.   Roughly two-thirds of the First Nations directly affected by the pipeline project have not signed letters of support for the project.   If JT  wants to have a war in BC , then bring it on. 

 

The northern one is dead.

 

The southern one was just recently blessed.

 

Our premier is hammering out details on putting in her acceptance.

 

If BC goes to war with the feds, then maybe JT take a page from his dad and declares the war measures act.

 

The pipeline is coming through. If it makes you feel better, I am sure there are support groups lining up to sit in front of a bulldozer and getting hauled off to jail.

 

But it's coming through no matter what you do. Deal with it.

[kingofsurrey]

1 hour ago, ronthecivil said:

ct.

 

The pipeline is coming through. If it makes you feel better, I am sure there are support groups lining up to sit in front of a bulldozer and getting hauled off to jail.

 

But it's coming through no matter what you do. Deal with it.

 

The KM pipeline to Vancouver Harbour will never happen.  0 % chance of it being built.

Not enough rig pigs and  Dirty Tar Oil workers families live in beautiful Vancouver city.

 

When 100,000 people in Vancouver gear up to stop this insane project.  It will be dead.

No project that goes through first nations territory can go ahead nowdays without first nations approval.

 

This pipeline will never be built. 

 

 

[ronthecivil]

22 hours ago, kingofsurrey said:

 

The KM pipeline to Vancouver Harbour will never happen.  0 % chance of it being built.

Not enough rig pigs and  Dirty Tar Oil workers families live in beautiful Vancouver city.

 

When 100,000 people in Vancouver gear up to stop this insane project.  It will be dead.

No project that goes through first nations territory can go ahead nowdays without first nations approval.

 

This pipeline will never be built. 

 

 

 

There's already a pipe going to the harbor. They are just twinning it.

 

The feds can override anything should they declare it in the national interest. Fully expect them too.

 

Your prediction of the odds is complete off. Go ahead and chain yourself to a bulldozer. It's not going to make a lick of difference.

 

You are not the dictator of Canada, nor of BC, nor of the Lower Mainland, nor are you the King of Surrey. You are simply ruling by a decree that you have no authority over.

 

So go ahead, make your decree, stand your ground, and enjoy you day in court.

[taxi]

On 12/5/2016 at 8:52 PM, Violator said:

Just what I hear from people and family members in the industry.n ot arguing against a rebound but a moratorium on fishing for ten or more years would help.

 

Good luck with that. The license owners are a powerful monopoly composed of multi-millionaires. Its the same issue with our dairy and cab industries. They limit licences until the licences are insanely expensive. The licences all end up in the hands of ultra-rich lobby groups who's only interest is keeping the licenses artificially high. Corrupt governments won't do anything about it, and the citizens, employees in those industries, and small time business people looking to get into the market suffer. 

[The Vancouver Connection]

2 hours ago, ronthecivil said:

 

There's already a pipe going to the harbor. They are just twinning it.

 

The feds can override anything should they declare it in the national interest. Fully expect them too.

 

Your prediction of the odds is complete off. Go ahead and chain yourself to a bulldozer. It's not going to make a lick of difference.

 

You are not the dictator of Canada, nor of BC, nor of the Lower Mainland, nor are you the King of Surrey. You are simply ruling by a decree that you have no authority over.

 

So go ahead, make your decree, stand your ground, and enjoy you day in court.

 then i'll go to jail - this pipeline will never happen MARK my words RON the CLOWN

[kingofsurrey]

30 minutes ago, The Vancouver Connection said:

 then i'll go to jail - this pipeline will never happen MARK my words RON the CLOWN

 

Ron - Tar Sands Oil are contributing to the destruction of our planet.

If you support this because you of your Greed, then so be it.   

 

Luckily most the people in BC and  the vast majority in Vancouver are willing to do whatever it takes to stop this project.

 

 

100,000  Vancouver citizens united will stop any dirty project that threatens our beautiful city.   First nations will not give consent for this pipeline on their lands.

 

JT only approved the deal to prop up Alberta's Premier.   Even JT knows this pipeline has a   0  %  chance of going forward.