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#1 Del Rio

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Posted 24 December 2013 - 12:27 AM

What is going on with him now? He has been not very good for a while now and his numbers have fallen off the cliff. You think it is a slump or has he come back down to earth? Been pretty average and letting in some unlike Schneider goals.

Not hating on him, just discussing....hasn't had a poor stretch like this ever

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Posted 24 December 2013 - 12:28 AM

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His team.
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Posted 24 December 2013 - 12:31 AM

part of it is his team in front of him. Also in Vancouver he had a very good team in front of him that played a system. NJ doesn't play the same system.
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Posted 24 December 2013 - 12:33 AM

His team.


The few wins are a result of the team but not of lately though, he has allowed 3 or more goals in past 5 games.

His GAA and SV% has just been falling

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Posted 24 December 2013 - 12:33 AM

Vancouver was a better team. Pretty obvious.

New Jersey is kind of a team in disarray right now.
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Posted 24 December 2013 - 12:38 AM

Vancouver was a better team. Pretty obvious.

New Jersey is kind of a team in disarray right now.


I know his wins are low all because the Devils being a bad team. But just talking about lately, he hasn't been good. He had top numbers even though he wasn't winning but have fallen since.

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Posted 24 December 2013 - 12:39 AM

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So Schneider isn't getting it done in New Jersey so it's New Jersey's fault. When he was in Vancouver, it was because of him the Canucks won.

Fans are so damn blind to reality. Face it; Vancouver traded the lesser goaltender and kept the right one.
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Posted 24 December 2013 - 12:46 AM

So Schneider isn't getting it done in New Jersey so it's New Jersey's fault. When he was in Vancouver, it was because of him the Canucks won.

Fans are so damn blind to reality. Face it; Vancouver traded the lesser goaltender and kept the right one.


lol well that's fans for you but lets not go there....He was great before this month and literally had no goal support, can't argue there. But his past 5 games have been poor and has been letting in some bad goals.
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Posted 24 December 2013 - 12:54 AM

Absolutely 0 goal support.
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Posted 24 December 2013 - 12:56 AM

lol well that's fans for you but lets not go there....He was great before this month and literally had no goal support, can't argue there. But his past 5 games have been poor and has been letting in some bad goals.

Past 5 games. Please. You're going to say Schneider has a problem right now letting in 3+ goals in the past few games? Maybe he's in a bit of a funk or a slump. He's still a good goalie but he's probably either battling the flu that we don't know about, or a minor injury or as I said earlier, just in a cold slump where pucks aren't sticking to him and just going through him.
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Posted 24 December 2013 - 01:08 AM

Past 5 games. Please. You're going to say Schneider has a problem right now letting in 3+ goals in the past few games? Maybe he's in a bit of a funk or a slump. He's still a good goalie but he's probably either battling the flu that we don't know about, or a minor injury or as I said earlier, just in a cold slump where pucks aren't sticking to him and just going through him.


Not saying he is a bad goalie all of sudden lol just talking about how he has been lately. Pretty sure it is a normal slump he is going through but he never has had a long string of poor games.

But this also shows he wasn't going to be our savior and carry us to cups with easy as many fans thought. He still isn't that goalie.
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Posted 24 December 2013 - 01:11 AM

VAN Defence >>>>>> NJ Defence.
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Posted 24 December 2013 - 01:14 AM

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New Jersey isn't as bad as people say. They've got some stars over there who are scoring at almost the same clip as the Canuck forwards are, and their defensive systems are actually very similar to Vancouver's.

Schneider is 4-8 on the season, Brodeur is 11-8-2 with 3 shutouts. The team isn't the problem, Schneider just simply isn't good enough. I know he's still got great potential, but thank your lucky stars MG traded Schneider and didn't keep him as a starter, because he's nowhere near ready to play 70 games in this league, especially behind a much weaker Canucks team and against much harder opposition than what he's facing in NJ.
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Posted 24 December 2013 - 01:15 AM

Pathetic team. He's had to be almost perfect to have a chance to win this season.

But today he was lit up by Chicago. Team took the night off.
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Posted 24 December 2013 - 01:15 AM

Maybe he is having going through a slump because of lack of motivation and disappointment that comes from being traded away from one of the best cities in the world to... New Jersey. I guess he is discouraged due to lack of playing time and uncertainty with his future. Poor guy, he's spent so much time playing as backup and when he finally thought he was getting the chance to be the number one guy, he gets traded to be a backup again.
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Posted 24 December 2013 - 01:18 AM

VAN Defence >>>>>> NJ Defence.


ok you guys clearly don't know Devils hockey then....They have been known to be the most defensive team in the NHL since the 90's!!! We may have better names on defense but Devils overall game is trap, defensive hockey. Brodeur a great goalie, but how the heck you think he has over 120 shutouts?

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Posted 24 December 2013 - 01:18 AM

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How many games has he played in where the Devils have scored 1 goal or less? No goalie is going to win behind a team like that.

It's a real shame. Schneider is a great goalie but his value has yet to be appreciated.
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Posted 24 December 2013 - 01:19 AM

ok you guys clearly don't know Devils hockey then....They have been known to be the most defensive team in the NHL since the 90's! We may have better names on defense but Devils overall game is trap, defensive hockey. Brodeur a great goalie, but how the heck you think he has over 120 shutouts?


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Posted 24 December 2013 - 01:23 AM

Cool. The oilers were great to.


The Devils still are one of the most defensive teams. They have to be. If you saying it's his team, then I guess you are saying Schneider isn't a good goalie, he needs good teams?
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Posted 24 December 2013 - 01:24 AM

The Devils still are one of the most defensive teams. They have to be. If you saying it's his team, then I guess you are saying Schneider isn't a good goalie, he needs good teams?


He's a good goalie, he will be a great goalie, but it would be ridiculous to expect him to carry a team right now.
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Posted 24 December 2013 - 01:42 AM

Past 5 games. Please. You're going to say Schneider has a problem right now letting in 3+ goals in the past few games? Maybe he's in a bit of a funk or a slump. He's still a good goalie but he's probably either battling the flu that we don't know about, or a minor injury or as I said earlier, just in a cold slump where pucks aren't sticking to him and just going through him.


Actually his dog died, his mother has thoughts, so does his father, he's home sick about Boston, he has the flu, he has minor injuries, he doesn't breath properly, he doesn't sleep well these days, he is going through some stuff in his mind, he received snow in his eyes, the team in front of him isn't good enough for Schneider to do his thing, he's temporarily off balance, he doesn't have the same goalie coach, he's having problems with his girlfriend, it's Christmas...


.........and so on...


Meanwhile in Canucks land...

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Posted 24 December 2013 - 02:04 AM

He's a good goalie, he will be a great goalie, but it would be ridiculous to expect him to carry a team right now.


Schneider:
GP 115 - W 59 - L 34 - OT 13 - Min. 6409 - GA 235 - SA 3138 - GAA - 2.20 - PCT .925 - SO 11

Luongo @ 27 years old:
GP 417 - W 162 - L 190 - OT 15 - Min. 23634 - GA 1037 - SA 3138 - GAA - 2.69 - PCT .917 - SO 32

This includes only one year in Vancouver, playing for lowly FLA for five years and lowly NYI for one.

It is safe to say that despite Luongo's 2.69 GAA and .917 PCT, which are really, technically slightly worse than Schneider's, that Luongo's 23,634 minutes played by the time he was 27 years old, made him the guy that carried his team.

Or explained another way, Schneider, now 27 years old, has played 27% the amount of games Luongo had played by the time he was at that age.

Schneider is 27 years old. He is not a 1G like many professed here. Sure he's good. But remember Luongo hitting his prime about three years ago. Schneider has about three or four years left of growth left and then the decline will start to start. Luongo on the other hand, has carried every team he's been on on his back and doesn't show that much of a slowing down curve. He is in the same league as the other greats that played the game. Of course, Vancouver fans are as blind as bats and could not recognize history in the making even if it played in their own rink.

Schneider got greedy, Schneider got traded, Schneider pays the price.

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Posted 24 December 2013 - 02:09 AM

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Schneider:
GP 115 - W 59 - L 34 - OT 13 - Min. 6409 - GA 235 - SA 3138 - GAA - 2.20 - PCT .925 - SO 11

Luongo @ 27 years old:
GP 417 - W 162 - L 190 - OT 15 - Min. 23634 - GA 1037 - SA 3138 - GAA - 2.69 - PCT .917 - SO 32

This includes only one year in Vancouver, playing for lowly FLA for five years and lowly NYI for one.

It is safe to say that despite Luongo's 2.69 GAA and .917 PCT, which are really, technically slightly worse than Schneider's, that Luongo's 23,634 minutes played by the time he was 27 years old, made him the guy that carried his team.

Or explained another way, Schneider, now 27 years old, has played 27% the amount of games Luongo had played by the time he was at that age.

Schneider is 27 years old. He is not a 1G like many professed here. Sure he's good. But remember Luongo hitting his prime about three years ago. Schneider has about three or four years left of growth left and then the decline will start to start. Luongo on the other hand, has carried every team he's been on on his back and doesn't show that much of a slowing down curve. He is in the same league as the other greats that played the game. Of course, Vancouver fans are as blind as bats and could not recognize history in the making even if it played in their own rink.

Schneider got greedy, Schneider got traded, Schneider pays the price.


How the hell did you take me saying "he will be a great goalie" and turn it into a Luongo vs Schneider argument? Wtf?
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Posted 24 December 2013 - 02:28 AM

His team.


His team is the one letting in 3 goals a game lately?

If he wants to complain that he wants to be a starter then he needs to play ALOT better
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Posted 24 December 2013 - 02:29 AM

He's a good goalie, he will be a great goalie, but it would be ridiculous to expect him to carry a team right now.


Most people expected him to carry the Canucks and be the savior....They believe we traded away the Sidney Crosby of goaltenders

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Posted 24 December 2013 - 02:33 AM

He's a good goalie, he will be a great goalie, but it would be ridiculous to expect him to carry a team right now.


Yeah not sure why people don't see this as obvious......
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Posted 24 December 2013 - 03:31 AM

Does anyone honestly believe Lou trades the rights to Horvat or Nichuskin for Schneider knowing what he knows now?
Eddie Lack has better numbers. Look at LA's goaltending situation.

Ever since Kovy left I have said it and will keep saying it. Trade Schneider to long island for Strome.
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Posted 24 December 2013 - 03:39 AM

its not...

CARRY "A" team.

It is Martin Brodeurs Team.

You know the guy, best goalie that every played?

Or the one with the best stats. Who cares?

Brodeur is just testing schneiderman. You know like training a successor?

Martin aint long for this leeg guys...and its not like he has done any substantial training with "backups" other than Hedberg in the last 5 years.

CRASH COURSE COREY! you got this year and next to learn what Brodeur wants to teach, then you are on yer own buddy!

You had a lot longer with Looo.

I bet you pick up more what you need to learn with Martin, than with Roberto.
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Posted 24 December 2013 - 04:31 AM

yikes if you don't know whats going on in New Jersey.............. some of the above posters are spot on, the rest well...... and comparing their defense this year to Vancouvers is pretty stupid

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Posted 24 December 2013 - 04:37 AM

All I hear is excuses for the guy, Schnieds doesn't need excuses.
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