Who killed Canada Post’s banking study?

[King Heffy]

Someone said they didn't get their bill... so of course it was lost in the mail.. sure thing.

And taking home around 35000 a year sure is living the highlife... 35000 is the 100k haven't you heard.

Well considering it happened multiple times, from different senders, and it didn't show up, the logical assumption is Canada Post received it and failed to deliver it.

[gmen81]

They may not hire full time anymore, but there are plenty of people working there full time.

Those people also get priority for overtime, which is based on seniority. The same employees also make upwards of forty an hour. Factor in a few hours a week of double time and a half and 100k comes pretty quickly.

I have two clients who were mail sorters. I saw both of their tax returns and employment files. They were making 85 to 110k per year. Ridiculous amounts of vacation. Full pension. They sorted mail.

I am a letter carrier for Canada Post and this is not true at all. We do get time and a half for OT, not double time and a half. We get double time if we work on Sunday's, which is only offered during the Christmas season.

No way do we make anywhere close to $40/hr, we did a small raise last year after our new CBA, but it wasn't much of one.

Also if you don't want your mail to be lost you obviously need me to be your letter carrier.

[prana16]

Well considering it happened multiple times, from different senders, and it didn't show up, the logical assumption is Canada Post received it and failed to deliver it.

Yep Newman was keeping all your mail in his closet.. its not like its a major crime for postal workers to just mess with your mail or anything.

[King Heffy]

Yep Newman was keeping all your mail in his closet.. its not like its a major crime for postal workers to just mess with your mail or anything.

I never said it was intentional, merely that there was some serious incompetence going on.

[Dazzle]

For what it's worth, I've used Canada Post a lot, especially recently and it's NEVER been lost once. I can understand when mail gets lost but maybe I'm one of those lucky people.

[Ghostsof1915]

Kind of getting away from the topic at hand. 20+ years ago they were discussing this. Doesn't surprise me that it's cropped up again.

I feel, why not? It would provide a revenue stream and competition to the major banks. It means a small town can have a Canada Post and a Bank. If it makes half the revenue of the major banks, that's money than can pay down the debt.

But you know it won't go through because the banks don't want competition, they want their fat profits.

[n00bxQb]

Major banks have sway

[Darth Kane]

For what it's worth, I've used Canada Post a lot, especially recently and it's NEVER been lost once. I can understand when mail gets lost but maybe I'm one of those lucky people.

I've stopped using Canada Post to courier mail for me. It's not often that I have to use a courier for personal reasons but every time I did there were issues. 2 Christmases ago I couriered gifts to Ontario using Canada post. The driver marked the packages down as delivered before he made the delivery to save himself some time. The gifts arrived 2 weeks late as I fought with Canada Post, they had no interest in helping me find the package. They had no proof the delivery was made (receiver's signature) yet they wouldn't budge from their stance that the packages were delivered. I found out that the parcels were sitting in the back of a Canada Post truck for 2 weeks. I didn't get an apology or notification that the items were found, the receiving party were the ones who told me the packages finally arrived.

[taxi]

I am a letter carrier for Canada Post and this is not true at all. We do get time and a half for OT, not double time and a half. We get double time if we work on Sunday's, which is only offered during the Christmas season.

No way do we make anywhere close to $40/hr, we did a small raise last year after our new CBA, but it wasn't much of one.

Also if you don't want your mail to be lost you obviously need me to be your letter carrier.

How old are you?

You need to start asking around. No one will probably tell you what the people who've been in the union for twenty years are making, but it's more than you think. I've seen the tax returns and employment files.

Many of them are probably doing half the work of you too. If anyone should be mad it's you. You're the one who is going to get the axe, because the system is bloated.

[taxi]

This is such a colossal load of crap.. my parents both worked at the post office full time.. my mother from the time she was 18 until she retired a couple years ago.. she made barely over $20 an hour at retirement and was one of the top for seniority.

I've hired green labourers on construction sites with no experience for the same wage.

After 35 years of work they were getting like 6 weeks of holidays which is hardly extravagant for that much time put in .. you are a liar.

Postal workers top out at $20/hr?

..... right.

[gmen81]

How old are you?

You need to start asking around. No one will probably tell you what the people who've been in the union for twenty years are making, but it's more than you think. I've seen the tax returns and employment files.

Many of them are probably doing half the work of you too. If anyone should be mad it's you. You're the one who is going to get the axe, because the system is bloated.

I'm 33, been working for 8 years. Maybe people in upper management make more, but all letter carriers who have worked the same amount as me or more all make the same.

One of my friends is head of the labour relations department for Canada post so I get a lot of inside info from him. I knew about them cutting off home delivery about 5 months before everyone else knew.

I've got a enough years of service in where I will not get the axe. At least that's what he told me.

[Lancaster]

Canada Post used to have Postal Banking, but it ceased operation back in 1968. Not sure the reason why, but if you're wondering who was PM then, it's Pearson and Trudeau.

[Gurn]

My problem with any delivery service be it Canada Post or Loomis or ...... is do not ask me if I want the package insured if they don't think they can do the job right, tell me and I'll go elsewhere.

[taxi]

I'm 33, been working for 8 years. Maybe people in upper management make more, but all letter carriers who have worked the same amount as me or more all make the same.

One of my friends is head of the labour relations department for Canada post so I get a lot of inside info from him. I knew about them cutting off home delivery about 5 months before everyone else knew.

I've got a enough years of service in where I will not get the axe. At least that's what he told me.

You are very junior. I don't doubt what you are saying is true. There are people in the company who've been there twenty years longer making considerably more four a lesser job.

Also people rarely get told ahead of time they will be fired, in any industry.

[Jimayo]

You honestly expect us to believe that people don't get raises there ever. ... It's a union.

My wife has been there 7 years without one raise ever. In fact, the only negotiation involving pay ended in all new hires starting at $16.95/hr so it was actually a decrease.

[Offensive Threat]

So Canada Post COULD be doing wire transfers, balance transfers, bill payments, paypal type payments and maybe even small loans ( payday loans)? Basically a bank without the more complex mortgage, investment, retirement savings type offerings. Well every bank in Canada would oppose this in a big way. The Canadian Government competing directly with the countries biggest banks? Think they would just roll over and let it happen? They spend a lot on lobbying already.

[DonLever]

Basically a bank without the more complex mortgage, investment, retirement savings type offerings. Well every bank in Canada would oppose this in a big way

Why would the banks oppose payday loans stuff when they don't do it anyway. That stuff is peanuts compared to the investments, mortgage, retirement stuff the big banks do. The companies most opposed to P.O. banking will be companies like Money Mart.

[prana16]

You are very junior. I don't doubt what you are saying is true. There are people in the company who've been there twenty years longer making considerably more four a lesser job.

Also people rarely get told ahead of time they will be fired, in any industry.

Jesus man just give up the nonsense my parents both worked there their entire adult lives, they were as high up as you could be without being management and were asked many times to be management but prefered going out on their routes.. the raises they were receiving during strikes with the union were on the level of .25 to .50 cents an hour. You do not know what you are taking about and yes Letter carriers and sorters with DECADES in the union top out at a little more than $20 something an hour.. or did for the last 30 years and recently the wages for new hires went way way down.

You clearly have an issue with unions and are using that to just make things up. Multiple posters here that actually work and get paid or have family members that do have told you that you are wrong.

[prana16]

Why would the banks oppose payday loans stuff when they don't do it anyway. That stuff is peanuts compared to the investments, mortgage, retirement stuff the big banks do. The companies most opposed to P.O. banking will be companies like Money Mart.

The banks do not want a crown bank that is essentially not for profit, and being a crown corp somewhat beholden to the electorate.

[gmen81]

You are very junior. I don't doubt what you are saying is true. There are people in the company who've been there twenty years longer making considerably more four a lesser job.

Also people rarely get told ahead of time they will be fired, in any industry.

Like the person above me said all letter carriers get paid the same, no matter how many years of service they have put in. The newer employees do get paid a little bit less.

I won't get fired as a result of these changes, but yes I guess I could get fired if I royally screw up somehow at my job.

Also to the person complaining about not getting mail, just remember we are human too and do make mistakes, it's just not good if we do. That's why I take a little bit more time to make sure I don't make any mistakes. When I arrive at a house I will go through the mail just to make sure it's all for the right house. I usually find a couple a day that are addressed to the wrong house, so I make sure I get that letter delivered to the right house. However their are some letter carriers who just want to get done as quickly as possible and won't take the time. So you just have to hope that that person will leave the letter out for the carrier to grab the next day and deliver it to the proper house.

Another thing is maybe the company that you are getting the mail from didn't put down your address properly or is missing the unit # if you live in an apt or TH(it happens lots) so if the letter carrier can't find that name they just kill the mail. If someone owns the route they usually start to recognize names over addresses anyways, so they would be able to figure it out. For me I am just an RLC so I don't own my route, I just bounce around week to week. Last year at this time I was on a route for a year and could almost tell you half the peoples names that belong to what house.

One more thing, if you get a letter delivered to your house that should have gone to someone else's house then leave it on your mailbox where we would notice it and DONT write anything on it. We will then notice that we made a mistake. However if it is a letter delivered to the correct address but that person doesn't live there or it's something you don't want write down RTS or Moved. If you don't write anything down on it and it's for the correct address we usually don't take it.