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I'm watching BBC feed and have no problems with commentators.

The game is intense, and you can see the rivalry between the teams. Love it.

Daniel I not noticeable though

Healy was his usual idiot self so you made the right move with the BBC feed - assuming the commentary wasn't a CBC feed.

But really? Didn't notice Daniel? He was huge.

He created a handful of turnovers on the forecheck, one of them leading directly to the Swede's first goal.

They ran the offense through him on the powerplay - he essentially played Hank's role - and he drove possession, generating the play that lead to Karlsson's goal.

He played a little bit of Franzen's role, going to the front of the net and being a bull down low. He killed penalties and was probably the best player on the ice.

If Kesler is the best Canuck at Socchi, he's going to have to have a monster performance to top Daniel's.

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He's always been a star player but blind cdcers and 'Canucks fans' don't see that and it's a shame.

No he's not a superstar but he is a star. People are always crapping on him for not producing at what he should be but look at the linemates he plays with and has played with. Higgy and Booth, not top 6 material and Kesler can't play at his top potential with them. Kesler is a player who can't make others around him better but if he has the star power alongside him (not asking for a Crosby, just a bare minimum solid top 6er), he is a lethal threat and the Olympics say otherwise.

What happened when he had bare minimum top 6ers in Samuelsson and Sundin alongside him? He had career years and the most productive years. Those two were 'washed up' top 6ers you can say and he still put up star numbers with them. No surprise once they left and he had Higgins and Booth - not solid top 6ers - his production started to drop.

...open your eyes people, Kesler is a star. If MG has the balls to make a deal or sign a legitimate top 6 winger for Kes, this team will be a threat once again. Kesler's value is really underrated and if he were to be traded which won't happen at least this year, contenders would be lining up to get him with their cheque books and rosters open cause they know what Kes can do once given proper linemates.

/end rant.

Kesler had career years playing with mere Mats Sundin?

Sundin played 41 games as a Canuck in 2008/9 - sorry but Kesler's career years simply didn't come in that half season of Sundin's presence.

Kesler's career year came playing with Mason Raymond and Samuelsson - who was anything but "bare minimum".

Also, trying to make your point by running down Higgins as well is simply in bad form. Higgins has been an absolute steal for this team, highly undervalued, an elite puck hog, and an absolute stud of a two way player, particularly for his cap hit. If there's one legitimate criticism of Kesler it's that he has difficulty creating chemistry with linemates - whereas Higgins is exceptional in that sense. Kesler can also tend to try to do it all by himself when he's struggling - something that doesn't lend to great chemistry with linemates.

Most people here know that Kesler is a star and an outstanding two way player - 177 NHL goals and a Selke tend to say so. His injuries have certainly set him back, but only the most daft of CDCers see him as you contend.

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But the Canucks are lacking that sharpshooting fast skating winger. Kesler needs to be playing with fast players to be effective.

We use to be fast... :(

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Kesler had career years playing with mere Mats Sundin?

Sundin played 41 games as a Canuck in 2008/9 - sorry but Kesler's career years simply didn't come in that half season of Sundin's presence.

Kesler's career year came playing with Mason Raymond and Samuelsson - who was anything but "bare minimum".

Also, trying to make your point by running down Higgins as well is simply in bad form. Higgins has been an absolute steal for this team, highly undervalued, an elite puck hog, and an absolute stud of a two way player, particularly for his cap hit. If there's one legitimate criticism of Kesler it's that he has difficulty creating chemistry with linemates - whereas Higgins is exceptional in that sense. Kesler can also tend to try to do it all by himself when he's struggling - something that doesn't lend to great chemistry with linemates.

Most people here know that Kesler is a star and an outstanding two way player - 177 NHL goals and a Selke tend to say so. His injuries have certainly set him back, but only the most daft of CDCers see him as you contend.

Is it a coincidence Kesler came out of his shell and became the Kesler we know today when Sundin was alongside him and mentored him? And yea Higgins is a steal but not a top 6er. He's a great 3rd liner and should be a 2nd liner only if injuries occur but he's our fulltime 2nd liner and not good enough.

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Is it a coincidence Kesler came out of his shell and became the Kesler we know today when Sundin was alongside him and mentored him? And yea Higgins is a steal but not a top 6er. He's a great 3rd liner and should be a 2nd liner only if injuries occur but he's our fulltime 2nd liner and not good enough.

Kesler scored 21 goals the year before Sundin sort of showed up for a half season, 26 with Sundin here, and 25 the year after.

Kesler was always en route to be an outstanding two way player.

This story about Sundin creating Kesler is a popular one, but weak fiction imo. Sundin wasn't much of an example in his time here - he showed up out of shape, played half-assed hockey as a Canuck and looked like he had pretty much checked out of the NHL. Was a big disappointment, because the real Mats Sundin was a helluva player.

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Kesler scored 21 goals the year before Sundin sort of showed up for a half season, 26 with Sundin here, and 25 the year after.

Kesler was always en route to be an outstanding two way player.

This story about Sundin creating Kesler is a popular one, but weak fiction imo. Sundin wasn't much of an example in his time here - he showed up out of shape, played half-assed hockey as a Canuck and looked like he had pretty much checked out of the NHL. Was a big disappointment, because the real Mats Sundin was a helluva player.

not going to pull up old quotes but i remember seeing quite a few Canucks say how instrumental Sundin was on the team's success after he left

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Hopefully losing a chance at Gold because of Canada (again-hehehe) will motivate Kes to go into beast mode and single handly put us into the playoffs and then you never know Kes could end up with the only thing better then a gold medal a cup :)

I guess one can dream !

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After watching all the US games I have to say he was not that impressive. He lost most of the battles and for the most part took a lot of 0% shots from bad areas with no rebound chances. He was great on the draws but that's the only part of his play that stood out in a positive way.

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I said it before the Olympics and I'll say it again; Kesler has clearly played this season with the Olympics being priority #1 and I said before that failure would make him pout for the rest of the season. I knew that team USA would fold up and die just like they did because they are always a team of individuals who are all looking for personal glory first and team success second, at least IMHO. Now that team USA has been humiliated watch the guys like Kessel and Kesler mail it in for the rest of the season. I will be shocked if Kes comes back and starts to light it up.

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