PhillipBlunt Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Kesler is staying and will be given the captaincy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Has nothing to do with greed. It's asset management. Unless someone overpays for Kesler the organization is better off keeping as he has more value to us as a player than a lesser return that would be nothing but somewhat appeasing CDC's ridiculous blood-lust for a trade. And even then you'd all want to hang him for "not getting enough value". He literally couldn't win with this fan base if he traded Kesler for hockey-Jesus. The other guy would still have to add some picks... regards, G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey2Dope Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 RobRossi_Trib 3:14pm via Web Told #pens felt they had substantial offer to #Canucks. Feel ownership nixed plans for trade that would have sent Kesler to Pitt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 RobRossi_Trib 3:14pm via Web Told #pens felt they had substantial offer to #Canucks. Feel ownership nixed plans for trade that would have sent Kesler to Pitt. Sounds like Pens trying to save face for not ponying up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsedin33 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 I still feel he might have been traded, won't believe anything until I get real confirmation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket. Posted March 5, 2014 Author Share Posted March 5, 2014 Per reports by SNET, TEAM1040, and other numerous reliable sources. @TEAM1040: RT @RobRossi_Trib: #pens felt good about Kesler Tuesday. Started Wednesday not confident that #Canucks ownership would let the trade happen. @RobRossi_Trib: Told pens felt had substantial offer to Canucks. Feel ownership nixed plans for trade that would have sent Kesler to Pit @TEAM1040: RT @DarrenDreger: Told it was a feeding frenzy for Kesler. A few great offers made. At one point last week as many as 6 teams legit in play. ...what a hot mess. Teams picked up the price big time and MG had offers but greedy owners denied it to happen. Glad to know Aquilini is more concerned about money and revenue than creating a better teams. Lu situation 2.0...wow For those of you blaming and pointing the finger at MG, you have the wrong person(s). The owners are calling the shots and dictating what can be done and what can't. MG is simply a puppet and can't do what's best for the team due to greedy owners! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Per reports by SNET, TEAM1040, and other numerous reliable sources. ...what a hot mess. Teams picked up the price big time and MG had offers but greedy owners denied it to happen. Glad to know Aquilini is more concerned about money and revenue than creating a better teams. Lu situation 2.0...wow For those of you blaming and pointing the finger at MG, you have the wrong person(s). The owners are calling the shots and dictating what can be done and what can't. MG is simply a puppet and can't do what's best for the team due to greedy owners! Or they simply didn't get a good enough offer despite what other teams are trying to sell as "substantial" offers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket. Posted March 5, 2014 Author Share Posted March 5, 2014 Or they simply didn't get a good enough offer despite what other teams are trying to sell as "substantial" offers. Nope, not true. There's a track record to prove this: Luongo trade. Last time when they had the chance to move Lu and keep Schneids, owners didn't want to keep a portion of Lu's salary even though teams gave solid offers and this ultimately made teams not make the trade. Fast forward Heritage Classic: fans chanting Lu over controversial goalie start and owners have enough, not wanting another goalie drama. They give the Gillis the ok to trade Lu and say they will finally keep a portion of Lu's cap...what happens? He's traded. ...it's the owners whether you like to believe it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zduck14 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 I think the another possibility is that the owners have had enough and don't want Gillis calling the shots with the intention of firing him soon or after the season is done. After the goalie fiasco, this wouldn't surprise me considering what Gillis managed to get back for two elite goalies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Nope, not true. There's a track record to prove this: Luongo trade. Last time when they had the chance to move Lu and keep Schneids, owners didn't want to keep a portion of Lu's salary even though teams gave solid offers and this ultimately made teams not make the trade. Fast forward Heritage Classic: fans chanting Lu over controversial goalie start and owners have enough, not wanting another goalie drama. They give the Gillis the ok to trade Lu and say they will finally keep a portion of Lu's cap...what happens? He's traded. ...it's the owners whether you like to believe it or not. A. Bunch. Of. Made. Up. Hooey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronalds.Kenins41 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Wow 81 pages in 10 days must be a record Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronalds.Kenins41 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 A. Bunch. Of. Made. Up. Hooey. gillis even denied it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 You've got to think/hope that Gillis learned from his mistakes. I don't get the argument that a player's value increases at the draft. I also don't believe that the number of trade partners would increase at the draft since Kesler has a NTC and would dictate being traded only to contenders. All contenders would be interested in adding Kesler at the deadline. Hype may be higher at the deadline. But the price is supposed to be a very good young player so we can still ice a team, a prospect and a pick. But contending teams will be far less likely to add the established, credible good young player in the formula. If they are going for the cup and that player is worth his salt, they'll offer solely picks, prospects and throwaways. Did Boston give up Seguin at the deadline? No, they waited till the draft to put him on the table... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunningWild Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Not sure why people are freaking out at Gillis and Canucks org. If there was a good deal there, clearly they would have taken it. You think they want this hogwash following their team around? Why would anyone believe reports coming from other teams, or Dreger (of all people) - there's ALWAYS an agenda when teams release info like Pitts/Phi/Det have done. Always. 7 months ago every hockey analyst on the planet said Luongo and his contract were 'untradeable'. Heck, even Luongo said. it. Yet 2 days ago Canucks trade him - and get actuall assets in return. So, ugh, does he get any credit for 'doing the impossible'? No, of course not. The smear campaign is in full effect. Gillis has made a lot of mistakes while being a GM here. But holding onto Kesler when the deals were crap - was not one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoreanHockeyFan Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 "Substantial offers were made" Yeah...substantial from who's point of view. Come on people, smarten up. Think a little before you start giving **** to GMMG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Stanley Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 RobRossi_Trib 3:14pm via Web Told #pens felt they had substantial offer to #Canucks. Feel ownership nixed plans for trade that would have sent Kesler to Pitt. this is hilarious - Sutter Depres or Demoulin a first and a third is a substantial piece of crap if you ask me, glad Gillis did not go for this. In the summer, more teams will be interested becuase there will be 30 teams that want to get better and be buyers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Stanley Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 when McKenzie tweets that a price of schenn a B+ prospect and a mid to late first is "laughable" then you know the eastern media is driving to drive down the price of canuck players like they did with luongo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectacular Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Keeping Edler was the right decision. Kesler I'm on the fence about but if a good enough offer wasn't on the table (it wasn't), then keep him. If Anaheim gets knocked out in the first round or something crazy like that, no doubt they'd be willing to deal their first + Ottawas first + more for Kesler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millerdraft Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 when McKenzie tweets that a price of schenn a B+ prospect and a mid to late first is "laughable" then you know the eastern media is driving to drive down the price of canuck players like they did with luongo If that's an excessive return for one of the league's best two-way centres, what exactly is the return Yzerman got on a 39-year old? Grand larceny? Edit: Btw, that tweet was not McKenzie's, it was John Boruk's from CSN: John BorukVerified account@JohnBorukCSN So by @TSNBobMcKenzie criteria Flyers would have to give up B.Schenn, Laughton or Morin and a first for Kesler. #laughable https://twitter.com/...525621945712643 Here's McKenzie's: Bob McKenzieVerified account@TSNBobMcKenzie Price to get Kesler is high. 1. Significant/established NHLer, preferably a C, 20 to 25; 2. Top prospect, preferably a F. 3. 1st rd pick. Price to get Kesler is high. 1. Significant/established NHLer, preferably a C, 20 to 25; 2. Top prospect, preferably a F. 3. 1st rd pick.— Bob McKenzie (@TSNBobMcKenzie) March 2, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 As much as I am disappointed that we weren't able to find a deal for Kesler. Im happy that we didn't settle for crap Sutter- best he will ever be is a solid third line center. We have plenty of those in the making in Horvat, Gaunce, Fox, Cassels etc Despres and Demoulin are bottom pairing dman with some upside, but honestly you can find good bottom pairing dman in free agency.. We have Stanton, Weber, Corrado and co who can easily do the same as these two players No disrespect to the players above, but cmon, Kesler is worth ALOT better than a third line center and two bottom pairing dman. 1st and third rounder picks will be late ones, and really hold very little value for us. Pittsburgh didn't seem like they wanted to sweeten the deal as per team 1040 with Pouliot due to the concerns of Letang. IF this is the best we could have garner than im glad we didn't make a deal. I have to give MG the thumbs up here despite all the criticism, rumors and pressure to make a deal that obviously didn't make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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