Alex the Great Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Seriously? Are we going to treat this like the Coho trade again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NucksCup2015 Posted March 1, 2014 Author Share Posted March 1, 2014 Now THIS is how you debate. Totally agree with you. We needed a big strong RW. He fit that bill. Now looking at the state of the team as it stands and the past 2 seasons I can say that if Horvat can reach his potential ceiling we drafted the right player as Nicushkin would have been a great draft pick but only would have served to mask the pre-existing issues of this team. Moving forward with Nicushkin would have been maintaining the status quo Moving forward with Horvat like we are could necessitate the changes this team needs to be competitive on an elite level in the future if the correct moves/trades/draft picks are made your post makes zero sense lol 1. The post you respond to said we should have drafted Nik..you say this is right then say it masks problems 2. Drafting an offensively talented high end player with size masks issues? lol..it addresses them. 3. Nik is status quo? Again, having 13 goals and 30 pts in our lineup with elite level hands and skating is the status quo? At least I now know you have the logic of a stale peanut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboose Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Now THIS is how you debate. Totally agree with you. We needed a big strong RW. He fit that bill. Now looking at the state of the team as it stands and the past 2 seasons I can say that if Horvat can reach his potential ceiling we drafted the right player as Nicushkin would have been a great draft pick but only would have served to mask the pre-existing issues of this team. Moving forward with Nicushkin would have been maintaining the status quo Moving forward with Horvat like we are could necessitate the changes this team needs to be competitive on an elite level in the future if the correct moves/trades/draft picks are made I feel like you're assuming Nichushkin won't develop past what he's already accomplished but Horvat will take leaps and bounds over the next few years. If Nichushkin was from somewhere in Ontario I firmly believe he gets taken in the top 3, he's such a dynamic player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaches Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 your post makes zero sense lol 1. The post you respond to said we should have drafted Nik..you say this is right then say it masks problems 2. Drafting an offensively talented high end player with size masks issues? lol..it addresses them. 3. Nik is status quo? Again, having 13 goals and 30 pts in our lineup with elite level hands and skating is the status quo? WHY DO YOU CALL HIM NIK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 I feel like you're assuming Nichushkin won't develop past what he's already accomplished but Horvat will take leaps and bounds over the next few years. If Nichushkin was from somewhere in Ontario I firmly believe he gets taken in the top 3, he's such a dynamic player. I am not saying that at all. What i am saying is Horvat has the potential to be the better complete player. moving ahead with a rebuild makes Horvat a more attractive option (towes/bergeron comparisons) than Nicushkin As, against peoples best wishes this club needs a rebuild. And as such yes. I do believe that while Nicushkin would be the better right now player, Horvat will be the player we need in 3-4 years time after this core has been properly purged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaches Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 It's really like the Toews vs Crosby argument. Both are great players, but it's hard to compare them when they both bring something completely different to the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NucksCup2015 Posted March 1, 2014 Author Share Posted March 1, 2014 It's really like the Toews vs Crosby argument. Both are great players, but it's hard to compare them when they both bring something completely different to the table. the difference is, as one poster mentioned, Nikushkin is showing he can play at a high level in the NHL (ie as a rookie with that pace he'll be in consideration for rookie of the year)... Horvat, is still in Junior and sure has potential written all over him, but again, the POINT of this post was Nikushkin was clearly the better player as he is IN the NHL and playing and playing very well and all we have on Horvat is hope. They are both the same age so no one knows about the future Point being Canucks fans keep saying Horvat will be this or that based on POTENTIAL, Nikushkin is PROVING right now he can play and if you look at the 2014 Canucks we sure as hell could have used a kid who could play now and be part of the future, isn't that what people want in a Kesler deal? big difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcrguy Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 MayRay would be fourth in scoring as well. Heck, we didn't even need to draft him, just give him a million bucks and he'd be here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcrguy Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 It's really like the Toews vs Crosby argument. Both are great players, but it's hard to compare them when they both bring something completely different to the table. It's not hard to compare those two at all. Both are great players, but Crosby is better................You put everyone in the NHL into a pool and all the teams start drafting again, guess who goes # 1..........Sid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 What's done is done. It's a waste of time going on and on about it. Focus on the current prospects...we have some goodies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 As he jumps into a totally unrelated thread about Richie and Virtanen to continue his argument.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Not a Canuck, therefore, not Canucks Talk. And you're responding in a pretty rude, hostile way so rather than move it, you've made your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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