Ugli Fruit Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 If so, for what kind of return? Big winger like a Voracek type? Young pmd like Hedman? A veteran backup maybe? All three may be viable, at least under present circumstances. That said, there might be some reasons to keep him as well. Schroeder is on the short side, yes. However he isn't, "small". He is stocky, which means he is at least pretty stable and not very easy to knock down (recall Brad Marchand, for example). This can translate into agility AND balance, two things a lot of bigger players fall short on. Add his good pace/hands and he has potential there. He is also a hybrid of a playmaker and scorer. He can do both equally well, and that makes him very versatile. Regardless of whether or not he can transition to wing, he will synergize with a wider group of people and complement them appropriately. I recall in the first intermission vs Washington, Schroeder was asked about his linemates (I think it was Matthias and Booth or Kassian), and he was talking about how they were creating enough space for him to be able to think more about his game. That goes to show that not all three forwards have to be massive to be dangerous. I personally think he could be an asset - a younger and potentially better Derek Roy, if you will. Shouldn't really be built around him, but is a very, very good complementary forward who will not be that expensive (his lack of size may eat into his value, especially in the west). Thoughts? Edit: please stop b!tching about the examples used. They are examples of big wingers and puck moving d-men, not trade offers for Schroeder. Sad how it just takes one word for at least half of CDC to completely lose track of what they were reading. Sigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken kaniff Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Schroeder would fetch a 2nd at most. He has little value right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Gaunce Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 I can tell you right now he is not worth Hedman or Vorachek lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kodos Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Voracek or Hedman? Are you high? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugar baby watermelon Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 I like him for that 3rd line centre, he is capable ofmaking that nice seeing eye pass, he needs peopke who can finish, maybe Hansen n Higgins would be key, get to the open spot, have someone work with him on the faceoff, he is pretty good though, and he does have a nice shot. Do all 3rd line centres have to be grinding checking centres?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kodos Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 I do understand that you said "like" and don't mean those exact players, but you wouldn't get close enough that it's even worth mentioning guys like that as a comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 No. Value nil. Boost value first and evaluate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deets Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 So the question is, would I move Schroeder for Hedman or Vorachek?Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 He's more valuable to us than the potential return. I'd like him to at least be here at training camp next year to provide some competition for Horvat and Gaunce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THERETOOL Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 He's more valuable to us than the potential return. I'd like him to at least be here at training camp next year to provide some competition for Horvat and Gaunce. i agree ... at this point he really hasn't proven himself to be a starting nhler .. gotta say I'm bummed .. thought he would have more of an impact .. still early though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baka Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Schroeder is older than Hedman and a hell of a lot worst. Voracek is about a year older and a hell of a lot better. Not to mention both Tampa and Philly are playoff teams. If that is the return you want better hold on to Jordan and hope he surpassed them in numbers then offer the trade. Otherwise none of them would consider it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogbyte Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 If so, for what kind of return? Big winger like a Voracek type? Young pmd like Hedman? A veteran backup maybe? All three may be viable, at least under present circumstances. That said, there might be some reasons to keep him as well. Schroeder is on the short side, yes. However he isn't, "small". He is stocky, which means he is at least pretty stable and not very easy to knock down (recall Brad Marchand, for example). This can translate into agility AND balance, two things a lot of bigger players fall short on. Add his good pace/hands and he has potential there. He is also a hybrid of a playmaker and scorer. He can do both equally well, and that makes him very versatile. Regardless of whether or not he can transition to wing, he will synergize with a wider group of people and complement them appropriately. I recall in the first intermission vs Washington, Schroeder was asked about his linemates (I think it was Matthias and Booth or Kassian), and he was talking about how they were creating enough space for him to be able to think more about his game. That goes to show that not all three forwards have to be massive to be dangerous. I personally think he could be an asset - a younger and potentially better Derek Roy, if you will. Shouldn't really be built around him, but is a very, very good complementary forward who will not be that expensive (his lack of size may eat into his value, especially in the west). Thoughts? I'm drunk too but this is ludicrous. Voracek? You gotta be kidding. He might garner a 4th rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 i agree ... at this point he really hasn't proven himself to be a starting nhler .. gotta say I'm bummed .. thought he would have more of an impact .. still early though A lot of smaller guys take a while to make an impact. Briere and St. Louis immediately come to mind. Not saying he's going to be that good, but he could still pan out to be a solid NHLer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzam Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 In a heartbeat..Where do you see this kid in a couple of years? I don't think he will be good enough for the top 6 and probably not the guy for a bottom 6 rolefailed 1st rounder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 In a heartbeat.. Where do you see this kid in a couple of years? I don't think he will be good enough for the top 6 and probably not the guy for a bottom 6 role failed 1st rounder What do you get in return for him now? Schroeder has more potential than whoever we get back for him is likely to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Western Red Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 OH MY GOD!We're keeping Schroeder... he'll sign for 1.5 and be on the third w Kass.JS is developing.. He had a high ankle sprain... if you don't know what that entails you eitherA. Don't get off your couch or computer chairB. Have no patience for proper development ( see EDM )C. Are leeching your parents wifi.PS... JS is one hell of a prospect. Patience boy, patience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asian player Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 He doesn't really fit anywhere. He's most certainly not a 1c and we have Horvat/Gaunce/Matthias/Fox/Kesler?/Sedin? to fit the 2c and 3c. He could fit on the wing but again, there are more viable options. And he really wouldn't fetch us a lot. Raymond 2.0? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Western Red Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 You guys are crazy. He might get moved but for a 4th?!?! BAHA. wow. He's worth a Tinordi or Del Zotto at least. No homer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Hey look everyone, it's another CDC poster posting how they WAY over value Canucks fringe players. Hedman is the 2nd overall from 2009. Schroeder couldn't carry his golf bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Hey look everyone, it's another CDC poster posting how they WAY over value Canucks fringe players. Hedman is the 2nd overall from 2009. Schroeder couldn't carry his golf bag. Such a huge overvaluing that I have to hope it's a joke. He's worth about a 3rd rounder at the moment. (Not that I'd trade him for that return) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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