nucksontheisland Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 BUSY DAY AT THE OFFICE BOYS: Okay, here’s what I propose we look like for next season: Keep: FORWARDS DEFENCE Burrows Bieksa Higgins Hamhuis Jensen Garrison Kassian Tanev Kesler Stanton Mathias Richardson Santorelli D.Sedin H.Sedin Discard: FORWARDS DEFENCE Booth (Buyout) Edler Hansen Weber Schroeder Demote: Archibald Dalpe On the bubble: Sestito Projected lineup: F1 D. Sedin H. Sedin Jensen F2 _UFA__ Kesler __UFA_ F3 Burrows Santorelli/Horvat Higgins F4 Richardson Mathias Kassian D1 Tanev Bieksa D2 Garrison Hamhuis D3 Corrado Stanton G1 Lack G2 Markstrom/veteran backup We have $10M in cap space going into next year, with Kassian, Santorelli, Tanev to resign on that list. Kassian: 3 YR @ $2M per year Santorelli: 2 YR @ $2M per year Tanev: 5 YR @ 2.75M per year Leaves us with $4.5M, in addition to $5M from Edler, 2.5M from Hansen, 4.25M from Booth, meaning in actuality, they have $16.25M to spend. Notable free-agents; Ryan Callahan- could slot in beside Kes on F2 (4 YR @ 6M per year), Paul Stastny for F2 (2 YR @ 6M per season Leaves us with 4.25M for minor league roster signings, depth signings, veteran goalie. Potential depth FAs. Victoria born- Adam Cracknell. Plays in Stl. Dave Bolland Steve Ott Tanner Glass (Bring him back!!) Trevor Lewis Blake Comeau Brian Boyle Players to fight in the system: Shinkaruk (doubtful he plays, he missed most of this season to injury) Gaunce Cassles Obviously some things need to go a certain way, for example, Edler needs to waive his no-trade clause. getting FA to sign in Vancouver could be more difficult than in years past, but as we've all learned, money talks. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Get back to work, Gillis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheels22 Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 It's 2014 now, silly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucksontheisland Posted March 18, 2014 Author Share Posted March 18, 2014 I'd probably do a better job than Gillis these days... Richardson on F4 Wheels22. At the end of the day, I'm looking to see guys COMPETE. Everyone talks about trading Kesler, when it's guys like Kesler and Bieksa we should be building around. There is a reason 29 other teams would be very interested in kesler. Because he's not a player that is in abundance in the NHL. Why trade a guy who you have to go out and try to find a player like him to replace him, for arguably a higher cost than his cap hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Killer Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 I hope we don't go after a UFA this year.. work with what we have.. and go after Patrick Kane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jejejester Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Oh wow elvis gets two of these threads today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Oh wow elvis gets two of these threads today He'll be feasting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 How about next yr Let roookies have 9 game auditions (shinkaruk, horvat, gaunce, sutton, fox if plays well at camp) plus kenins jensen and corrado Id rather go with youth even if we tank next yr mcdavid would be a nice prize. Kesler trade to phili or detroit or pens for a young center or winger and a 1st Hansen or i mean hands of stone For a (17-30)1st Edler bench him if his play continues to be horrible or tell him hes done in van trade for a top ten 1st rounder (islanders) Tanev 3yrs 2.5 per if he wants more trade him for a (20-30) 1st rounder and b prospect Kassian sign him 2-3 yrs 1.5-1.75 per Try getting virtanen or fleury and mckeown Trade richardson for a 3rd or 4th rounder No space for him next yr Sedin horvat mattias gaunce lain Go with youth Plus let bunch that dont make team develope in utica Tank next yr for mcdavid and try sign patty kane next yr. team would be sick with litsa cap space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABNuck Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 I appreciate your enthusiasm and positive thinking here, but I think there's a couple of issues with your projections: 1/ Paper thin UFA market this year 2/ Finding UFA's who want to come to Vancity and play with Kesler (even in a GOOD UFA year) is proving difficult. 3/ Speaking of which, Kesler is outta here. He wants out. I agree he plays a skilled, tough, gritty game every time he's out there. But he's no longer playing for the Vancouver Canucks...he's playing for his personal pride and reputation. He's basically going through the motions out there, good motions, but just the motions none-the-less. 4/ We can't move the Sedins very easily without taking a hard hit backwards, so let's move the pieces we can. Let's face it, what we got now ain't working. We all wanna hold on tightly to the memories this core group has brought us, and pray that they can do it again. But 3 seasons is proof enough, time to move on. It's kinda like owning an '85 Mustang. Sure it was quick back then, but today you're getting left behind by Honda Civics...time to trade. 5/ That being said, I think we need to make a trade that a) doesn't come back to bite us too quickly or if it does come back to bite us, we suck it up and look to the future anyways. Change has to come. So here's what I'd like to see for 2014-15: SEDIN-SEDIN-JENSEN (14.83M) MICHALEK-TURRIS-SANTORELLI (~11.00M) HIGGINS-MATTHIAS-KASSIAN (~7.00M) [uFA]-RICHARDSON-HANSEN (~4.00M) BIEKSA-HAMHUIS (8.25M) COWEN-GARRISON (7.70M) TANEV-STANTON (~3.25M) LACK-MARKSTROM (2.40M) PLAYER TOTAL = 58.5M PRESSBOX COMMANDOS (~3.00M) LUONGO (800K) TOTAL CAP HIT FOR 2014/15 = ~ 62.300 MIL So obviously then buy out Booth, deal Kesler and Edler to Ottawa and get whatever for Burrows. The rest are minor movements. The Ottawa deal would need to include some picks to spruce it up but I think Kesler and Edler locked into contracts looks pretty good for a couple of up and comers and a UFA who's obviously out the door (the Hemsky deal seems to point that fact anyways). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronalds.Kenins41 Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 I appreciate your enthusiasm and positive thinking here, but I think there's a couple of issues with your projections: 1/ Paper thin UFA market this year 2/ Finding UFA's who want to come to Vancity and play with Kesler (even in a GOOD UFA year) is proving difficult. 3/ Speaking of which, Kesler is outta here. He wants out. I agree he plays a skilled, tough, gritty game every time he's out there. But he's no longer playing for the Vancouver Canucks...he's playing for his personal pride and reputation. He's basically going through the motions out there, good motions, but just the motions none-the-less. 4/ We can't move the Sedins very easily without taking a hard hit backwards, so let's move the pieces we can. Let's face it, what we got now ain't working. We all wanna hold on tightly to the memories this core group has brought us, and pray that they can do it again. But 3 seasons is proof enough, time to move on. It's kinda like owning an '85 Mustang. Sure it was quick back then, but today you're getting left behind by Honda Civics...time to trade. 5/ That being said, I think we need to make a trade that a) doesn't come back to bite us too quickly or if it does come back to bite us, we suck it up and look to the future anyways. Change has to come. So here's what I'd like to see for 2014-15: SEDIN-SEDIN-JENSEN (14.83M) MICHALEK-TURRIS-SANTORELLI (~11.00M) HIGGINS-MATTHIAS-KASSIAN (~7.00M) [uFA]-RICHARDSON-HANSEN (~4.00M) BIEKSA-HAMHUIS (8.25M) COWEN-GARRISON (7.70M) TANEV-STANTON (~3.25M) LACK-MARKSTROM (2.40M) PLAYER TOTAL = 58.5M PRESSBOX COMMANDOS (~3.00M) LUONGO (800K) TOTAL CAP HIT FOR 2014/15 = ~ 62.300 MIL So obviously then buy out Booth, deal Kesler and Edler to Ottawa and get whatever for Burrows. The rest are minor movements. The Ottawa deal would need to include some picks to spruce it up but I think Kesler and Edler locked into contracts looks pretty good for a couple of up and comers and a UFA who's obviously out the door (the Hemsky deal seems to point that fact anyways). The irony of your post is killing me just stop Kesler said he doesn't want to be traded to a Canadian team . Edler said he wouldn't waive his no trade clause. Burrows...... I can go on and on what's wrong with your post but you get the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanKeslord17 Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Sedin-Sedin-Jensen Shinkaruk-Kesler-Kassian Higgins-Horvat-Burrows Richardson-Matthias-Hansen Hamhuis-Bieksa Edler-Garrison Stanton-Tanev Halak Lack Assuming Kesler isn't traded ofcourse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asian player Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Why discard Weber? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Oh wow elvis gets two of these threads today He'll be feasting! Some days the gods are kind, others not so much. But for the OP, what they're referring to is that there was a line up thread posted earlier today that was locked since we've had 3 others already this month. I think it's safe to say we can probably keep any line up suggestions in one of the earlier ones. The one locked earlier today: Line-up looking past this year ( we r not making a run this year, let it go!) The older ones: lineup for next season? (March 9) The Future of this team and the direction it is going (March 6) Fill the lineup next year (March 5) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Hard Truth Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 mcdavid-ishBurrows-Kesler-KassianSedin-Sedin-JensenShinkauk-Horvat-GaunceSestito-Lain-Archibald Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamu101 Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Can we get Ekblad instead of McDavid if we do tank... We need defensive depth and not offensive Remember we have Horvat and Shinkaruk Also available to us is our farm team They have great players such as DeFazio, Marshall, Grenier, etc Lines for 2014 preseason: Dan, Hank, Burr Friesen, Kes, Santo Booth,Horvat, Shinkaruk Tostito, Richardson, Hansen Dman"" Sauve, Tommernes Liberati, Weber Hamhuis, Tanev Lines for beginning of season Burr, Hank, Jensen Dan, Kes, Santo Higgy, Matthias, Hansen Tostito, Richardson(Hopefully), Kassian Defence " " Hamhuis, Tanev Bieksa, Stanton Garrison, Weber (Edler traded for high draft pick in this years draft) We get Ekblad develop his in juniors for a couple years (Future Weber-not our Weber but the superstar Weber) Go Canucks Go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Hard Truth Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Ekblad 2014 draftMcDavid 2015we could use both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Sedin-Sedin-Jensen Shinkaruk-Kesler-Kassian Higgins-Horvat-Burrows Richardson-Matthias-Hansen Hamhuis-Bieksa Edler-Garrison Stanton-Tanev Halak Lack Assuming Kesler isn't traded ofcourse The softest lineup suggestion ive ever seen.....lol....do you watch any other good hockey teams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Hard Truth Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 pipe dreamingE.Kane-R.Kesler-D.BfuglienBurrows-Bjugstad-KassianHiggins-Couterier-HorvatSestito-Santorelli-RichardsonLain,Grenier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanfor42 Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Kesler wants out. He will be traded. No point discussing any lineups with him in it.Daniel is no longer a first line calibre player.Edler will not accept a trade. He has said so.Outside of those realities we can speculate about how the lineup might look for 14/15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roflcawptur Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 How about next yr Let roookies have 9 game auditions (shinkaruk, horvat, gaunce, sutton, fox if plays well at camp) plus kenins jensen and corrado Id rather go with youth even if we tank next yr mcdavid would be a nice prize. Kesler trade to phili or detroit or pens for a young center or winger and a 1stHansen or i mean hands of stone For a (17-30)1st Edler bench him if his play continues to be horrible or tell him hes done in van trade for a top ten 1st rounder (islanders) Tanev 3yrs 2.5 per if he wants more trade him for a (20-30) 1st rounder and b prospect Kassian sign him 2-3 yrs 1.5-1.75 per Try getting virtanen or fleury and mckeown Trade richardson for a 3rd or 4th rounder No space for him next yr Sedin horvat mattias gaunce lain Go with youth Plus let bunch that dont make team develope in utica Tank next yr for mcdavid and try sign patty kane next yr. team would be sick with litsa cap space Lol trading Hansen for a 1st rounder in 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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