DylanA Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 It's not like Torts ever uses the 4th line, might as well have 2 enforcers who can easily take down anyone (not Sestito, he just loses his balance and collapses in fights) and aren't afraid to break some rules. Put them between Richardson who's good at face-offs and can still be put on the penalty kill, so he'll still be useful. Have the 2 enforcers jump players who attempt cheap shots on the stars (e.g. Nino Niederreiter). Like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc6bJQwBXSc, just more effective. Also, the greater hope is other players won't attempt it, because Vancouver will have a scary 4th line. This guy: would be getting more than just penalties as punishment. Probably a ridiculous idea, but it can't be that more ridiculous than the injuries this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Sestito would be fine as the secondary guy. I think Lain will get a shot to stick with the big club, and he can also provide some toughness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DylanA Posted March 29, 2014 Author Share Posted March 29, 2014 Sestito would be fine as the secondary guy. I think Lain will get a shot to stick with the big club, and he can also provide some toughness. Forgot about Lain, he did pretty good against Westgarth in the line brawl, might work out well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 I agree we need a nuclear detterant Someone lucic would be scared of sestito could be our secondary enforcer Parros gaunce lain And sestito as 13th forward Yes please or reaves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 If you want a deterrent, trade a low level prospect to Toronto for Colton Orr or to Edmonton for Luke Gadzic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Killer Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Paul Bissonette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Sestito - Richardson - Archibald You got Richardson who can provide some offence and then you have Sestito and Archibald for the tough guy/enforcer role who can pot the odd goal (rhyming accidentally) every now and then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baka Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 IMO having your toughness on the 4th line has become a dead art and utterly pointless. If anything it only benefits opposing teams. When a player levels one of your players (dirty or clean) the enforcer has no intimidation. You just end up putting your worst line out against a more skilled line and give them a higher chance to score. Plus the opposing player just ignores the enforcer (why is he going to fight a player who serves no other value to his team) and if the enforcer does anything the opposing team just ends up on a power play. Teams that are more known for being tough with somewhat of an intimidation factor have it built through players who hold significant roles on the team. Players who play along side the other skill players and players who getting off the ice actually serves a purpose to the opposing team. When you have a player who gets lots of ice time and can play hockey that runs around leveling people they draw lots of penalties. When you have a scrub you keep pushing on the ice to chase someone who leveled your own players they end up taking the retaliation penalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyLuciano Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Seems to be working pretty well for the Flames. McGrattan and Westgarth have been putting up points for them and dropping the gloves. Also good for protecting the young kids on that may make a push for a regular spot next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyLuciano Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Bring Godard out of retirement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 What we need are talented players who don't need someone standing up for them. We need forwards like Iginla in his prime. We don't need to beat Lucic with his fists. We need players who will be punishing and clean body checkers, and can score at will. As Jack Adams said to Gordie Howe. "I know you can fight, now show me you can you play hockey.". The better maxim from Jack Adams is "You can't score from the penalty box". A team can be tough, and a pain to play against without having goons. In fact that might be more frustrating is facing a fast, young, big, talented team that will out hit you and out play you, and outscore you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB007 Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 This guy: would be getting more than just penalties as punishment. Probably a ridiculous idea, but it can't be that more ridiculous than the injuries this season. That one game, one player, changed the fortune of our season. Now Phoenix will make the playoffs and we won't. Hanzal is not a mean guy but a message needed to be sent. If I was the coach I would explicitly order Archibald to ACL Hanzal, not get Hamhuis to fight him. There should be a provision in our contracts with 3rd and 4th liners that fined salary will be compensated by the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Hard Truth Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Sestito-Kesler-KassianArchibald-Ott-GrenierC.Neil- Richardson-S.ThortonParros-Lain-Orrthugged out enough ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB007 Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Sestito-Kesler-Kassian Archibald-Ott-Grenier C.Neil- Richardson-S.Thorton Parros-Lain-Orr thugged out enough ? Thornton is a p%ssy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baka Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Sestito-Kesler-Kassian Archibald-Ott-Grenier C.Neil- Richardson-S.Thorton Parros-Lain-Orr thugged out enough ? Fire Torts and hire Chris Simon as Head Coach. Marty McSorely and Sean Avery as assistant coaches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket. Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 ^just missing George Laraque but other than that, looks fine : p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Tim Hunter is already an assistant coach. We can always hire him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB007 Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Get Matt Cooke - we need those blind side hits back. And resurrect Derek Boogard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCRenegade Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 No need for goons, if our team would simply stick up for each other other teams would think twice about cheap shots. Look at the Colorado game, Kes was chirping with Duchene and then had to deal with Jaime Mac his following shift. This team takes sooooooo many cheap shots, esp. Goalies and nothing is ever done. We send out Sestito to get beat up. How many games have we lost this year to injuries due to cheap shots? Our team is not tiny but seems to play that way. Hansen used to play in your face, Garrison needs to play bigger, Edler gets pounded every game. I saw Kesler get hit in the Colorado game and thought to myself "oh oh, you just woke the beast" what happens........ Nothing. There used to be a Canucks team that played with an edge and they went to the cup final. This team seems defeated before the second period. Little push-back. One of our strengths during the cup run was our FORECHECK. I watched the D-men brace for impact when ever Vancouver chipped the puck down low. Now they skate by the opposition rarely finishing hits and giving the other team time and space to exit their own zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 No to just pure goons on the 4th line, those guys are a waste of space. I'd rather have the wingers be guys who are not only physical but who have potential to play bigger roles with more development, while the center's a good two-way guy. Burr - Hank - Jensen Daniel - Kes - Kassian Higgins - Matthias - Booth (decent, play-driving 3rd line that can also hit) I'd like to see this for the 4th Archibald/ Mallet - Richardson/ Lain - Hansen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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