The Stork Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 The Jays had high expectations last year after landing Ra Dickey andJose Reyes in deals They finished with a record of 74-88 They finished 5th in the AL East Many say the team won't make the playoffs others say there's a slight chance that they might That's why the GM made a few trades He got Dioner Navarro out of free agency Then released JP Arencibia later on Blue Jays Active Roster Track offseason moves with the Blue Jays Hot Stove Tracker » Toronto Blue Jays Active Roster # Pitchers B/T Ht Wt DOB 56 Mark Buehrle L-L 6'2" 240 Mar 23, 1979 27 Brett Cecil R-L 6'3" 220 Jul 2, 1986 50 Steve Delabar R-R 6'5" 220 Jul 17, 1983 43 R.A. Dickey R-R 6'3" 215 Oct 29, 1974 36 Drew Hutchison L-R 6'3" 195 Aug 22, 1990 62 Aaron Loup L-L 5'11" 205 Dec 19, 1987 29 Dustin McGowan R-R 6'3" 240 Mar 24, 1982 23 Brandon Morrow R-R 6'3" 210 Jul 26, 1984 58 Todd Redmond R-R 6'3" 200 May 17, 1985 32 Esmil Rogers R-R 6'3" 200 Aug 14, 1985 21 Sergio Santos R-R 6'3" 215 Jul 4, 1983 67 Marcus Walden R-R 6'0" 195 Sep 13, 1988 # Catchers B/T Ht Wt DOB 31 Erik Kratz R-R 6'4" 240 Jun 15, 1980 30 Dioner Navarro S-R 5'9" 205 Feb 9, 1984 22 Josh Thole L-R 6'1" 205 Oct 28, 1986 # Infielders B/T Ht Wt DOB 1 Jonathan Diaz R-R 5'9" 155 Apr 10, 1985 10 Edwin Encarnacion R-R 6'1" 230 Jan 7, 1983 17 Ryan Goins L-R 5'10" 185 Feb 13, 1988 3 Maicer Izturis S-R 5'8" 155 Sep 12, 1980 13 Brett Lawrie R-R 6'0" 210 Jan 18, 1990 26 Adam Lind L-L 6'2" 195 Jul 17, 1983 # Outfielders B/T Ht Wt DOB 19 Jose Bautista R-R 6'0" 205 Oct 19, 1980 53 Melky Cabrera S-L 5'10" 210 Aug 11, 1984 28 Colby Rasmus L-L 6'2" 195 Aug 11, 1986 14 Moises Sierra R-R 6'1" 220 Sep 24, 1988 Projected Lineup Cabrera Rasmus Bautista Encarnation Lind Lawrie Navarro Diaz Goins Pitching Rotation Dickey Hutchison Buerle Morrow McGowan Bullpen Rogers Cecil Delabar Sergio Santos Marcus Walden Redmond Loup Bench Reyes [OnDL] Diaz Izturis Kratz and Thole Will they break their playoff curse this year or will it continue... Go Jays Go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bissurnette Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Damn these guys are huge. Some of these guys should've become hockey players... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Warhippy Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Aaaaannnnnnnnd....... They're out of the playoffs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 I just don't see their starting rotation getting them into the playoffs. Too many ifs. Can Dickey get back to everyday ace form? Can Morrow stay healthy and productive? Can Hutchinson be a reliable starter the whole season? Same for McGowan (or whoever slots in as the #5 guy this year). Jays need all 4 of those things to happen to have a chance of making the playoffs and I don't see that happening. 2 perhaps but not all 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackcanuck Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 (edited) The Jays are in a real tough division with Yankees Red Sox TB Rays The Jays have a good team, but I am not a big fan of Manager John Gibbons. The Manager in Baseball has more control of what happens on the field than a coach in any other sport. He calls pitches, defence, hit and runs, bunts, base stealing, makes lineup, batting order, pitching changes, pinch hitters, etc.,etc. The game and team is completely controlled by the Manager! A Manager can be responsible for wins in at least 15- 20 games with good decisions in games, by the same token he can cost a team 15-20 games with poor decisions. So at the end of a season if a team is 8 games out of 1st, you could look at some decisions made by the manager during the season. I think Gibbons is the weakest part of their lineup. If he proves me wrong then I could possibly see a wildcard. Edited April 7, 2014 by Mackcanuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmen81 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 So Dickey has a bad start his first game and a good start his 2nd. Hutchinson has a good start his first game and a bad start his 2nd game. I guess that means that Buerhle has a bad start his next game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnkNuk Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 The Jays best chance of making it to the playoffs is to get out of the AL East. Barring that, we can sit back and enjoy the first third of the season. By then, they'll probably be out of it and we can start to cherry-pick-watch the teams we think might have a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Stork Posted April 7, 2014 Author Share Posted April 7, 2014 The Jays best chance of making it to the playoffs is to get out of the AL East. Barring that, we can sit back and enjoy the first third of the season. By then, they'll probably be out of it and we can start to cherry-pick-watch the teams we think might have a chance.So Dickey has a bad start his first game and a good start his 2nd. Hutchinson has a good start his first game and a bad start his 2nd game. I guess that means that Buerhle has a bad start his next game. Dickey had a bad 1st start but bounced back quick And I agree the Blue Jays should be moved to the NL or something I don't see them being 1st in the AL West except maybe in the Wild Card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butcher Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 some early concerns, even though they are 4-4. Starting rotation is not good enough, not as strong as the other teams in the AL East. I expect decent years from Buerle and Dickey, as for the others guys its just wait and see. its nice to see Milky and Bautista hit some long balls early, but i think the team relies on the long ball too much for runs. A lot of power hitters, but not enough get on base and move the runners around type of hitting. Maybe Reyes back will make a difference there. If jays start tanking early, replace Gibbons. I dont know how he kept his job after last year. What does management have against Kawasaki, hes a sparkplug, clutch hitter, and fan favorite, hes earned some playing time. Those are my concerns but i still think it will be a better year than last year. The players have had time to find chemistry with each other now. Its also likely that they will be healthier than last year, barring a lot of bad luck. Im glad they upgraded at catcher too. Bullpen is still great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Stork Posted April 10, 2014 Author Share Posted April 10, 2014 some early concerns, even though they are 4-4. Starting rotation is not good enough, not as strong as the other teams in the AL East. I expect decent years from Buerle and Dickey, as for the others guys its just wait and see. its nice to see Milky and Bautista hit some long balls early, but i think the team relies on the long ball too much for runs. A lot of power hitters, but not enough get on base and move the runners around type of hitting. Maybe Reyes back will make a difference there. If jays start tanking early, replace Gibbons. I dont know how he kept his job after last year. What does management have against Kawasaki, hes a sparkplug, clutch hitter, and fan favorite, hes earned some playing time. Those are my concerns but i still think it will be a better year than last year. The players have had time to find chemistry with each other now. Its also likely that they will be healthier than last year, barring a lot of bad luck. Im glad they upgraded at catcher too. Bullpen is still great. They got Lawrie and no clue to why Kawasaki isn't getting any starts In my opinion he deserves a shot And always came up clutch in key situations Another 7-5 win tonite Go Jays Go big or go home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Stork Posted April 10, 2014 Author Share Posted April 10, 2014 The Jays are in a real tough division with Yankees Red Sox TB Rays The Jays have a good team, but I am not a big fan of Manager John Gibbons. The Manager in Baseball has more control of what happens on the field than a coach in any other sport. He calls pitches, defence, hit and runs, bunts, base stealing, makes lineup, batting order, pitching changes, pinch hitters, etc.,etc. The game and team is completely controlled by the Manager! A Manager can be responsible for wins in at least 15- 20 games with good decisions in games, by the same token he can cost a team 15-20 games with poor decisions. So at the end of a season if a team is 8 games out of 1st, you could look at some decisions made by the manager during the season. I think Gibbons is the weakest part of their lineup. If he proves me wrong then I could possibly see a wildcard. They'll make the playoffs this year and surprise is all We got a clutch lineup this year so we don't know what we will expect Just win Go Jays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YummyCakeFace Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Good wins last two games. Got creative with the bats and on the pads. He doesn't have a big bat but Gose sure is fun to watch in the field. So smooth. Dickey goes tomorrow looking for the sweep. Hopefully double E can get his bat going in the finale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Romo Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 2 games above five hundred!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggs50 Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Gose really reminds me the value of speed. If Gose and Lawrie can start hitting for a good average boy watch out.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Gose really reminds me the value of speed. If Gose and Lawrie can start hitting for a good average boy watch out.. Considering his start, Lawrie getting his BA above .240 is a good place to be by the middle of May. If he can hit .280 for the rest of the month then he'll be up over.250 to end the month. Not bad. He even seems like he's starting to wait on pitches a little more and finally drawing some BB too. I think that's the key indicator to his success, not power numbers or RBIs. Reyes too, despite his poor avg is starting to be a major factor at the top of the order. As his avg climbs the Jays should start to be able to tack on a few more runs early in games. He's been getting quite hot recently. Hopefully Melky can stop cooling down at the same time. All in all I think this team has the potential to go on a nice stretch if the starting pitching is even just average. The bullpen is getting itself sorted out now and the roles are being better defined. Having Janssen back, with Delabar setting him up, is huge. I wonder which one of Gose or Pillar can hang around as the 4th outfielder after Rasmus comes back. Gose seems like his time is now and not having Bautista in CF makes a big difference. I like the fact that Colby can have 30+ HR power from the left side down in the order but he may be expendable for SP if Gose can hit well enough out of the 9 hole, and Pillar might be a good bench player with decent defense late in games. We know they can both field which is already an improvement over Sierra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YummyCakeFace Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 I'm starting to have concerns about Francisco. Seems he can't hit a breaking ball. Will be interesting to see how Boston pitches to him. I'm sure they know by now. Don't know if he'll be in the lineup today with Boston starting a lefty but as the series goes along I'll be watching to see if he can make adjustments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Easiest way to fix baseball. Hard salary cap. Kind of hard to be competitive when teams like Boston and New York spend almost 5 times what the bottom teams spend. You can also put in a minimum cap, forcing the smaller teams to field a competitive team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggs50 Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 I'm starting to have concerns about Francisco. Seems he can't hit a breaking ball. Will be interesting to see how Boston pitches to him. I'm sure they know by now. Don't know if he'll be in the lineup today with Boston starting a lefty but as the series goes along I'll be watching to see if he can make adjustments. He swings sometimes just for the sake of swining his bat. If he struck out less his value would be really really high.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbox Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Easiest way to fix baseball. Hard salary cap. Kind of hard to be competitive when teams like Boston and New York spend almost 5 times what the bottom teams spend. You can also put in a minimum cap, forcing the smaller teams to field a competitive team. Much needed. Yankees would have a hard wake-up call if this happened. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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