zombieksa Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Posted in HF.To Van:2014 1stDalton ThrowerTo Mtl2014 2ndJordan SubbanWhy Vancouver does this:- Dalton is further along in his development- Could be internal competition with Frank Corrado- Move up in the draft 10-15 positions- Homegrown prospect, has been compared to a current Vancouver D.Why Montreal does this:- Montreal has a plethora of defensive prospects ready to make the jump.- Jordan is the brother of their all-star defense man PK. - Trading for Jordan may help with the negotiations of PK's next contract- Jordan is still projected to be a good defense man in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks155 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 You mean Jordan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombieksa Posted April 20, 2014 Author Share Posted April 20, 2014 You mean Jordan? glad you caught that lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.53 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I'd take that deal. Makes sense for both teams. And even a late first is a good pick. Shinkaruk was taken at 24 and people seem to be pretty excited about him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombieksa Posted April 20, 2014 Author Share Posted April 20, 2014 My main focus on this trade is that \;\ 1. He still has not been signed to a contract with Montreal, and \ 2. Bieksa isn't getting any younger. He is my favourite player (obviously) and getting a homegrown player that has been compared to him in physicality and nastiness makes me squee a little bit. In 3 years time we could be riding Tanev, Corrado, Thrower on the right side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Habs arent giving up 2 first rounders for a fifth round pick and a 2nd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Try schroeder subban and a 2nd for thrower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madness Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Don't see MTL making this trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 If Montreal wanted Jordan Subban they would have used one of the 5 picks they had before he was taken in that draft. No way he and a 2nd are worth Thrower (who was a second round pick and is a better prospect) and a first. There are just so many things wrong with this proposal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombieksa Posted April 20, 2014 Author Share Posted April 20, 2014 Habs arent giving up 2 first rounders for a fifth round pick and a 2nd Try schroeder subban and a 2nd for thrower While I appreciate your input I think your logic is a little flawed. I am basing this on statistics/potential shown since being drafted and not draft position solely. Jordan has put up better offensive numbers at a younger age than Dalton and on a worse team, Jordan has a higher overall potential than Dalton, Dalton is just further along in his development, something that is beneficial to Vancouver as they have a more glaring need for ready defensive prospects than Montreal (Tinordi, Beaulieu are ready now.) As far as a the picks go, the differential will be between 6 and 15 picks, in an average draft like this one it has been stated that after the top 16 or so this draft is very murky and may end up being a crap shoot. Maybe my logic is flawed as well, but I think Montreal trading for Jordan would be the 1st step in showing PK their dedication to him as a franchise player, and could become very helpful down the line. I like to think back to the late 00's when Gillis managed to sign Daniel and Henrik to below market value. Family played an important role in this signing and I have no reason to believe this couldn't take place in Montreal as well. This decision could be the difference of Weber/Suter money vs. Keith/Seabrook money. But that is just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken kaniff Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I like the idea of getting Thrower, but Montréal won't do it. They give up to much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrChill Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I like the idea, Subban has increased value but not that much. Unless we give up more and they are high on subban or PK really pushes for his bro being brought in (can't see) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterHorvatBure Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Subban is untouchable. Let's see how this guy has developed before we deal him a year after we drafted him...? Don't sell him out just because he is short...he IS a Subban. For all we know, we might see PK here. No one knows what the future holds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrChill Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Subban is untouchable. Let's see how this guy has developed before we deal him a year after we drafted him...? Don't sell him out just because he is short...he IS a Subban. For all we know, we might see PK here. No one knows what the future holds. Untouchable? Seriously? SERIOUSLY? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jägermeister Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Make MTL's 1st a 4th or a 5th and they consider it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Subban is untouchable. Let's see how this guy has developed before we deal him a year after we drafted him...? Don't sell him out just because he is short...he IS a Subban. For all we know, we might see PK here. No one knows what the future holds. lol Jordan is untouchable and PK might end up in Vancouver....wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnScott Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Subban is untouchable. Let's see how this guy has developed before we deal him a year after we drafted him...? Don't sell him out just because he is short...he IS a Subban. For all we know, we might see PK here. No one knows what the future holds. So I guess Malcolm must be on his way as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 So I guess Malcolm must be on his way as well? Nah Malcolm will be a bust because he is Bruin scum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22sedins33 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 If they wanted him bad enough to send us Thrower for him, they'd probably draft him before us. They did not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks155 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Subban is untouchable. Let's see how this guy has developed before we deal him a year after we drafted him...? Don't sell him out just because he is short...he IS a Subban. For all we know, we might see PK here. No one knows what the future holds.So, an unproven 4th round draft pick is considered untouchable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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