Bilbro Baggins Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 On 2018-01-28 at 7:47 AM, Junkyard Dog said: I saw him at the club. He shook my hand. Now I am home. Which club if ya don't mind my askin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 59 minutes ago, Bilbro Baggins said: Which club if ya don't mind my askin Republic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregthehockeynut Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 An example of being patient with a big forward like Jake being worthwhile :Anders Lee - Eliteprospects.com 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Coaches will ruin his career trying to mold him into a player he's not. Has anyone ever considered asking Jake how he wants to play the game? After all, it's his career and nobody elses.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 12 minutes ago, Tortorella's Rant said: Coaches will ruin his career trying to mold him into a player he's not. Has anyone ever considered asking Jake how he wants to play the game? After all, it's his career and nobody elses.. I see that too. May have to accept some of his warts to let his skills shine. See - Vanek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 2 hours ago, gregthehockeynut said: An example of being patient with a big forward like Jake being worthwhile :Anders Lee - Eliteprospects.com How is that being patient? Lee put up 16 pts in 24 games... Virtanen is at 24 in 108 lol Lee was an impact player once he made It to the show. Virtanen not so much. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
250Integra Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 2 hours ago, gregthehockeynut said: An example of being patient with a big forward like Jake being worthwhile :Anders Lee - Eliteprospects.com Virtanen is a 6th overall pick. Lee is a 6th ROUND pick. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucksfollower1983 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 On 1/28/2018 at 8:04 AM, Junkyard Dog said: I am not judging. I thought it was cool that he shook my hand. He wasn't as smashed as me, I don't think he was drinking much at all if anything. umm that was actually me, and by the way you owe me a new pair of shoes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBackup Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Every time I watch Jake play I see flashes of brilliance followed by a boneheaded move. He can take the puck to the net and be a North South player like nobodies business, but it seems he’s insisting on being a finesse, cerebral kind of guy when that was never his game. I don’t know if it’s the coaches or what but he’s at his best when he’s playing like a human pinball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunjabiCanucks Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 He has the speed, but he's being played never with good players. He is one of the fastest players on our team and yet it remains unused. We rushed him in when he wasn't ready, and now we don't give him the chance to play his game on the LW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reyezone Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Jake does well when he's dished the puck deep in his zone, with the wheels already going, drives the puck up the boards and through the neutral zone and shoots or distributes. They did this over and over in the 8 shot game he had in D-town. They actually gave him the puck in a position for him to succeed. And as far as the backhand-to-no one goes , how many other players missed assignments on that, quite beautiful, up-ice transition by the opposition? His speed breaks the trap and gains the O-zone. Put him with 53 and 6 and see how it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 hour ago, reyezone said: Jake does well when he's dished the puck deep in his zone, with the wheels already going, drives the puck up the boards and through the neutral zone and shoots or distributes. They did this over and over in the 8 shot game he had in D-town. They actually gave him the puck in a position for him to succeed. And as far as the backhand-to-no one goes , how many other players missed assignments on that, quite beautiful, up-ice transition by the opposition? His speed breaks the trap and gains the O-zone. Put him with 53 and 6 and see how it goes. Exactly. His skill set screams skate the puck up ice wide and back off the D while gaining the zone. If he can't cut to the net he should stop and curl to try to set something up. Virt, Bo, Boeser. Do it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 8 minutes ago, rekker said: Exactly. His skill set screams skate the puck up ice wide and back off the D while gaining the zone. If he can't cut to the net he should stop and curl to try to set something up. Virt, Bo, Boeser. Do it. And Jake does what you suggest he does Better on the left side. Please play Jake on LEFT WING!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pluralsight Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 12 hours ago, gregthehockeynut said: An example of being patient with a big forward like Jake being worthwhile :Anders Lee - Eliteprospects.com Nino Niedereitter is a better example: http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=123014 Both high draft picks, big, power forward type players. Nino didn't start scoring at the NHL level until his draft + 5 season. Draft + 5 for Jake would be next season, hopefully he'll be able to put it all together starting next season. Otherwise, I don't ever see him becoming a top 6 forward. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 25 minutes ago, Alflives said: And Jake does what you suggest he does Better on the left side. Please play Jake on LEFT WING!!! For sure. Better angle on his shot. The season is a bust. Would it kill Green to throw JV out on 3 on 3. Maybe the kid lites it up and gets a confidence boost. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Not sure why the Vancouver Brass are trying to force players to be something they aren't. It seems to be clear that Virtanen wants to be a pure bread scorer over being a ploughhorse type of guy. I get they are trying to develop good habits in playing a complete game, but maybe trying to bulldoze every guy and be physically challenging/intimidating isn't exactly what Virtanen wants to be. He was physical in junior because he was physically more developed than the rest of the teenagers in the WHL, so he used it to his advantage, but you look out there now, he looks hesitant to make big hits or to use that style of game now. Attribute that to either he is leary of reinjuring his shoulder or just doesn't want to engage in that kind of physicality now, but they need to start giving him some looks with more offensively inclined guys and try him out in offensive situations. Im not saying he can't do those things, but it apparently seems to be he doesn't want to do those things. If he isn't going to be a bruiser, utilize his speed, shot, and power in a different way. It just looks like the same situation with Tryamkin, trying to force him into a style of play "Pronger style" which he wasn't remotely comfortable doing. Could be the same for Jake, you just look at where his eyes are at, and it doesn't scream wanting to initiate that mean streak. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 5 minutes ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: Not sure why the Vancouver Brass are trying to force players to be something they aren't. It seems to be clear that Virtanen wants to be a pure bread scorer over being a ploughhorse type of guy. I get they are trying to develop good habits in playing a complete game, but maybe trying to bulldoze every guy and be physically challenging/intimidating isn't exactly what Virtanen wants to be. He was physical in junior because he was physically more developed than the rest of the teenagers in the WHL, so he used it to his advantage, but you look out there now, he looks hesitant to make big hits or to use that style of game now. Attribute that to either he is leary of reinjuring his shoulder or just doesn't want to engage in that kind of physicality now, but they need to start giving him some looks with more offensively inclined guys and try him out in offensive situations. Im not saying he can't do those things, but it apparently seems to be he doesn't want to do those things. If he isn't going to be a bruiser, utilize his speed, shot, and power in a different way. It just looks like the same situation with Tryamkin, trying to force him into a style of play "Pronger style" which he wasn't remotely comfortable doing. Could be the same for Jake, you just look at where his eyes are at, and it doesn't scream wanting to initiate that mean streak. It seems to be that management has determined that he isn't good enough at scoring to make it to the NHL with that kind of style, so in order to make use of him, they've turned him into a bruiser, something he is good enough to play at the NHL level. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 minute ago, -AJ- said: It seems to be that management has determined that he isn't good enough at scoring to make it to the NHL with that kind of style, so in order to make use of him, they've turned him into a bruiser, something he is good enough to play at the NHL level. Just watching Jake on the ice whether on TV or live, he just doesn't seem all that interested in being that bruiser like player. Watch when there are scrums, battles, his eyes aren't on the player to make the hit, rather his eyes are looking to get the puck. Would be interesting what player comparison they are teaching Jake to be. Videos of Lucic or etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Maybe they should put Jake with players who will form the future core of this team. Y'know, make him feel special, like he's a big part of the future. Virtanen - Horvat - Boeser It would probably give Jake a boost of confidence, he'd probably rack up some points, and police who takes liberties with Brock. Having him all over the lineup with different line mates from game to game, can't help. It's probably confusing for him, isn't able to develop chemistry with anyone. They're not setting Jake up for success IMO. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhorvat Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Since jake has to clear waivers next season. I can see benning deal him at the deadline or at the draft. Im sure management and coaching staff have realized that he doesnt get it and its better now then to wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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