PhillipBlunt Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 Virtanen looked good today 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 17 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Virtanen looked good today Blasphemy! He’s a lazy, out of shape, entitled kid that doesn’t care about his career. Don’t you follow the media narrative? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JeremyCuddles Posted September 14, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 14, 2019 15 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Blasphemy! He’s a lazy, out of shape, entitled kid that doesn’t care about his career. Don’t you follow the media narrative? Fans and media feeding each other's negative narratives. Looking at some of the posts on this page alone goes to show just how reactionary fans can be. But hey, when it comes to Jake ya gotta go worst case scenario. Guy is a uncaring, lazy, party animal that doesn't care about his career. Should trade him for scraps. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 17 hours ago, Kootenay Gold said: all the loonies are out and about. especially on CDC today that happens daily 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddy40 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 New knickname for Jake, Jake the Cake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post -DLC- Posted September 15, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 15, 2019 13 minutes ago, Freddy40 said: New knickname for Jake, Jake the Cake Please add something of substance to the discussion - enough of the Jake hate already. 1 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 38 minutes ago, debluvscanucks said: Please add something of substance to the discussion - enough of the Jake hate already. Jake is a lot slimmer now, but OMG he was kind of fat them, wasn’t he? I love Jake a 100% believe he’s going to be an important piece in us winning Cups. But still we are just having fin here, right? Jake will NEBER read this, I’m sure, so it’s okay to h Abe fun, no? So sooru, Deb. Respect you 109% but I found the scotch, so I’m just a little bit off my nit. Bad Alf. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaninMex Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Freddy40 said: New knickname for Jake, Jake the Cake Reporting someone for internet bullying on this board and then doing the same to a player. Is that not hypocrisy? And in Canada is that not called fat shaming? Is that not suspension worthy? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaninMex Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Also that picture is 3 years old? Correct me if I am wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Just now, FaninMex said: Reporting someone for internet bullying on this board and then doing the same to a player. Is that not hypocrisy? And in Canada is that not called fat shaming? Is that not suspension worthy? Does Jake look fat in this picture! What in the hell is fat shaming anyway? Fat, IMO, is beautiful, but for an elite NHL player fat if actually kind of ugly, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 1 minute ago, FaninMex said: Also that picture is 3 years old? Correct me if I am wrong. Two years, but it’s still funny, no? I love JB, but don’t you think he’s hit t put his head down and focus on helping his team win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaninMex Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Alflives said: Does Jake look fat in this picture! What in the hell is fat shaming anyway? Fat, IMO, is beautiful, but for an elite NHL player fat if actually kind of ugly, right? It refers back to something Freddy did earlier. It was rightfully deleted by the mods as were a few response to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 2 hours ago, debluvscanucks said: Please add something of substance to the discussion - enough of the Jake hate already. Agreed. It was such a stupid post......good god. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 9 hours ago, The 5th Line said: Hahaha all from this week alone. That is pure gold. I was told to unblock you to see this post and how stalkerish you are lmao. I would not expect a poster like you to provide any context when you do things like this....especially a bunch of the negative posts I responded to regarding Canuck players. Nice one!! Any poster on this site could look at your history and pull boatloads of utter garbage posts on a daily basis. Anywho...this was good for a laugh...back on Block you go...where you belong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master 112 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, The 5th Line said: You look so cool right now I've engaged with that poster in other threads; my advice is to not bother. - I think Virtanen is getting to the point where what you have now is what you're going to have for the length of his career. People think there's still room for development, but he's getting older and has been a regular in the NHL for a long time. It's unlikely that he makes major strides in the way of becoming a scoring force; the best that can be hoped for is that he rounds his game, takes on a 'more energy' philosophy to it, stops shying away from contact and learns to go to the areas he so much wants to avoid. In short, we can hope that he becomes a roleplayer for the team and starts to understand that with his level of skill/ability that he's going to have to work and move his legs every shift to become the best player he has the potential to become. Edited September 15, 2019 by 112 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyCanuck Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 55 minutes ago, 112 said: I've engaged with that poster in other threads; my advice is to not bother. - I think Virtanen is getting to the point where what you have now is what you're going to have for the length of his career. People think there's still room for development, but he's getting older and has been a regular in the NHL for a long time. It's unlikely that he makes major strides in the way of becoming a scoring force; the best that can be hoped for is that he rounds his game, takes on a 'more energy' philosophy to it, stops shying away from contact and learns to go to the areas he so much wants to avoid. In short, we can hope that he becomes a roleplayer for the team and starts to understand that with his level of skill/ability that he's going to have to work and move his legs every shift to become the best player he has the potential to become. How can you say that? when Jake first came in, the Sedins style didn't fit Jake at all. Heck tram left cause he had to fight after clean hits and I didn't see the rest of the team backing him up.....same goes for Jake. This is the first time, he let coach down....willie wanted Jake to get bigger and he did.....also for the first time , there's players Jake can learn from like ferland and Miller....DD was good but got injured..... we all saw how Jake played with fire when rooster was in the line up.... He needs a pack and now we got one.... I agree with green at 24 we will see what Jake is.... dont write him off just yet... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeneedLumme Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 53 minutes ago, 112 said: I've engaged with that poster in other threads; my advice is to not bother. - I think Virtanen is getting to the point where what you have now is what you're going to have for the length of his career. People think there's still room for development, but he's getting older and has been a regular in the NHL for a long time. It's unlikely that he makes major strides in the way of becoming a scoring force; the best that can be hoped for is that he rounds his game, takes on a 'more energy' philosophy to it, stops shying away from contact and learns to go to the areas he so much wants to avoid. In short, we can hope that he becomes a roleplayer for the team and starts to understand that with his level of skill/ability that he's going to have to work and move his legs every shift to become the best player he has the potential to become. He was 22 last year. He takes a while to learn things, as everyone who has followed him is aware. While some players are stars right out of the chute, it is not at all uncommon for players to continue to develop well into their twenties. If you think it is reasonable to assume that a 22 year old player has already shown all he has to give, you might want to think about players like Kucherov, Marchand, Gaudreau, Barkov, Huberdeau, Wheeler, etc., not to mention the Sedins and a significant portion of the Canucks last Cup finals team. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 2 hours ago, WeneedLumme said: He was 22 last year. He takes a while to learn things, as everyone who has followed him is aware. While some players are stars right out of the chute, it is not at all uncommon for players to continue to develop well into their twenties. If you think it is reasonable to assume that a 22 year old player has already shown all he has to give, you might want to think about players like Kucherov, Marchand, Gaudreau, Barkov, Huberdeau, Wheeler, etc., not to mention the Sedins and a significant portion of the Canucks last Cup finals team. I think Jake has more to give, but not much more, honestly. He's no spring chicken anymore. He's played 210 NHL games and while he's certainly improved over that time, I think I would be shocked if he becomes a regular top 6 player at this point. He's probably got more than 30 points like he's shown, but I don't see him scoring more than 40 points at any time during his career. Sure, I can't be certain, but every one of those players you named were already top 6 forwards or better by 22, whereas Jake has solidified himself as a 3rd line, but not consistently any better yet. I think the only guys I've seen elevate from 3rd liners to 1st line players after this long would be the Sedin twins. I see Jake as a career middle six forward and I'm okay with that--he can be a great middle six guy for us for years down the road. I'm not saying it's impossible that he'll become a top 6 guy, but at this point, I'm thinking it's very unlikely. I'd love to be burned by this quote three years from now if Jake proves me wrong. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeneedLumme Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 1 minute ago, -AJ- said: I think Jake has more to give, but not much more, honestly. He's no spring chicken anymore. He's played 210 NHL games and while he's certainly improved over that time, I think I would be shocked if he becomes a regular top 6 player at this point. He's probably got more than 30 points like he's shown, but I don't see him scoring more than 40 points at any time during his career. Sure, I can't be certain, but every one of those players you named were already top 6 forwards or better by 22, whereas Jake has solidified himself as a 3rd line, but not consistently any better yet. I think the only guys I've seen elevate from 3rd liners to 1st line players after this long would be the Sedin twins. I see Jake as a career middle six forward and I'm okay with that--he can be a great middle six guy for us for years down the road. I'm not saying it's impossible that he'll become a top 6 guy, but at this point, I'm thinking it's very unlikely. I'd love to be burned by this quote three years from now if Jake proves me wrong. The players I named were selected because their 22 year old production was substantially less than they produced later in their careers. For example Kucherov scored 30 goals and 66 points as a 22 year old, certainly first line production already, but it doesn't compare to last years 128 points. Jake's goal production last season was already borderline top-6 level. If he can improve from 15 goals to 20, something that I feel is entirely possible, he would absolutely be a top-6 winger imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JeremyCuddles Posted September 15, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 15, 2019 Pearson didn't hit 30+ points until he was 23, Ferland didn't hit 20 points until he was 24, Tom Wilson was 23 when he first scored more than 10 goals in a season, Baertschi wasn't even a true top 6 player for us until the last couple seasons. All guys that appear to be decent complimentary top 6 forwards that came into their own around 23-25. Not saying Jake is going to reach that. But a lot of people are speaking of him as if he'll never reach it. Period. Like, he has no chance in hell of it. People speak more highly of Gaudette as a top 6 player. That guy isn't even a regular on the team and he's the same age as Virtanen. Lol. Y'all wild. 1 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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