canucks155 Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 We need too many pieces too be competitive IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karlsson`s Flo Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 No I'm not. I specifically said I think Hansen is on the way out with the acquisition of Dorsett. I have a hard time believing that. Dorsett is more energy/tough guy where Hansen is more speedy checking wing. Also, Horvat and Jensen still need to show up at camp looking like NHL players in order to play on the roster. They are not entitled to a roster position and we will have no problem sending them down to develop more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Hansen is UFA, yes? Hansen has already signed his contract extension. His NTC kicks in July 1st. I personally love Hansen but his NTC is the concern. I can see Higgins not molding well with our new direction more so then Hansen though. Maybe Higgins worth keeping to help the youngsters though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted June 28, 2014 Author Share Posted June 28, 2014 I really hope they don't overpay for anyone. Just because you have the cash, doesn't mean you need to spend it. I'd rather see a youth movement and another top 10 pick next year. You pay a little extra when you're looking to make that final push, not start the process. Not gonna happen. They're gonna spend to the cap I guarantee. A team can stay competitive while bringing along youth. I think it's a common mis-belief that you can't have both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadcanucks Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Doubt it. The market puts him at about 2.5-3 mil. Though I agree Tanev isn't worth any more than $2.5M, the market may value him a lot higher with the stupid contract Edmonton gave Nikita Nikitin yesterday (which is as stupid as Burrows at $4.5M). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 I suspect Hansen is heading out as well. We can sign some decent players, here is an example. If you could swing a trade for Meyers as was speculated, you still have $3 million to spare under the cap. A pretty underwhelming 2nd line, but can't really do much worse than last year... and I don't know that any of our other prospects are better options. You could also try to live with that defence and spend the $5-7 million on another top 6 player FORWARDSDaniel Sedin ($7.000m) / Henrik Sedin ($7.000m) / Milan Michalek ($4.000m) Shawn Matthias ($1.750m) / Nick Bonino ($1.900m) / Alexandre Burrows ($4.500m) Chris Higgins ($2.500m) / Bo Horvat ($0.894m) / Zack Kassian ($1.250m) Brad Richardson ($1.150m) / Kellan Lain ($0.600m) / Derek Dorsett ($1.633m) Tom Sestito ($0.750m) / DEFENSEMENAlexander Edler ($5.000m) / Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m) Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m) / Chris Tanev ($2.250m) Luca Sbisa ($2.175m) / Frank Corrado ($0.591m) Ryan Stanton ($0.550m) / GOALTENDERSJonas Hiller ($4.500m) Eddie Lack ($1.150m) BUYOUTSDavid Booth ($0.000m) Keith Ballard ($0.000m) RETAINED SALARIES (1.16% of upper limit)Roberto Luongo ($0.800m—15.00%) BONUS OVERAGE$0------CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)(estimations for 2014-15)SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $61,043,611; BONUSES: $858,333CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $7,956,389 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted June 28, 2014 Author Share Posted June 28, 2014 I have a hard time believing that. Dorsett is more energy/tough guy where Hansen is more speedy checking wing. Also, Horvat and Jensen still need to show up at camp looking like NHL players in order to play on the roster. They are not entitled to a roster position and we will have no problem sending them down to develop more. Too many fourth liners. Someone's gotta go. Especially if they wanna start bringing up their own fourth line guys and developing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdubuya Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Vanek and Miller could help. Both drafted by Benning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliboy Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Hansen has already signed his contract extension. His NTC kicks in July 1st. I personally love Hansen but his NTC is the concern. I can see Higgins not molding well with our new direction more so then Hansen though. Maybe Higgins worth keeping to help the youngsters though. In that case trade him before July 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 I could see Higgins fitting in well in Boston. If they cant land Iggy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watermelon Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 7 mill for Stastny 4.5 mill for Moulson 2 years-1.5 mill for Santorelli Sedin-Sedin-Moulson Burrows-Stastny-Kassian Higgins-Bonino-Santorelli Matthias-Richardson-Dorsett Sestito Hamhuis-Bieksa Edler-Sbisa Stanton-Tanev Corrado Lack Markstrom ***Remove some players like Santorelli, Hansen and maybe Higgins for youth like Horvat or Jensen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magician Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 5.5 mil for Boyle, and 7 mil for Statsny? Not a whole lot left for a goalie. Not sure that is going to be a priority. Or 5 mil for Niskanen, 4 mil for Hiller, 5 mil for Iginla? All on short term deals. That would be sweet. I really want Myers in a trade doe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 I really hope they don't overpay for anyone. Just because you have the cash, doesn't mean you need to spend it. I'd rather see a youth movement and another top 10 pick next year. You pay a little extra when you're looking to make that final push, not start the process. If Vancouver continues to draft well and develop properly, then in 3-5 years you can go all-in on a free agent or two to make a run. Sensible. Imagine a plus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFBR392 Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Hansen has already signed his contract extension. His NTC kicks in July 1st. I personally love Hansen but his NTC is the concern. I can see Higgins not molding well with our new direction more so then Hansen though. Maybe Higgins worth keeping to help the youngsters though. Dear god! Even Hansen has a NTC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyHatnDart Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Personally gunning for Stastny and Hiller would make me happy, short term for both. Hiller to me is a proven goalie and as much as I like Eddie, I don't think he's quite ready to be a full time #1. Granted he started a ridiculous amount of straight games last year and did well, considering our extreme lack of scoring, I don't think having a good solid goalie to split the load would be a bad thing. That being said I know nothing about Markstrom, but from all reports he needs some work. All in all I think Benning did well today. The Garrison move to me was a bit of a head scratcher. Clearly a move to free up some cap space, and if that's the case and we land a solid top 6 forward or proven goaltender I'm happy with it. As far as the Kesler trade goes, sure, that 10th pick would've been very sweet but realistically, we moved a guy who gave us a choice of two teams (and one of them didn't have room anyways) and Benning got a player in return in Bonino who yes may come up short of Kesler's talent but can still be a solid 2-3 line centre and pop some goals. Sbisa on the other hand looks like a project...but one that I'll enjoy watching this year, as well as the rest of our up and comers. 3 NHL'ers and a 24th rounder ain't too shabby CDC, and considering we would've had to keep an upset player who could've hurt himself once again during the season and seen his trade value drop to zero, I think JB did pretty darn good. So far so good in my mind. This coming July 1st, and the following season will be at nothing else, an entertaining one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawkdrummer Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 I'm sure Benning's mock lineup looks different than yours (and aren't you supposed to be watching USA soccer DeNiro?). What I'm really saying is I don't think Benning is near done 'a wheelin' and 'a dealin' yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliboy Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 I'm sure Benning's mock lineup looks different than yours (and aren't you supposed to be watching USA soccer DeNiro?). What I'm really saying is I don't think Benning is near done 'a wheelin' and 'a dealin' yet. I'm a hoping so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Niskanen, Vanek and Stastny are the biggest names in FA. They will probably want the most $$$ as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonshinefe Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Has anyone considered Radim Vrbata? If he's willing to do a short term deal he could contribute to scoring (20-30 goals, 40-50pts usually). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyHatnDart Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Has anyone considered Radim Vrbata? If he's willing to do a short term deal he could contribute to scoring (20-30 goals, 40-50pts usually). A very underrated player, I would assume because of the team he plays for doesn't get a lot of airtime. Love this guys style and play but at 33 he ain't getting any younger. But, 2 year contract? On board with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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