canuckistani Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, aGENT said: How many solid UFA goalies are available to sign at TDL's to replace the guy we move? If we're going to make a move (which we should) it has to be this or next summer. And next summer will be fast approaching the ED and it's depressed trade market. Our goalies may or may not have more value a year from now (Marky's coming off a career year and Demko still has that young, 'new prospect' smell on him). They could build on that or they could just as easily lose some of it. Then add the ED market depression. At best, you break 'even'. At worst... Waiting = more risk. Disagree. Even if the market is depressed next off season, Marky and Demko are both likely to improve their stock through next season, to yeild higher values then, than now. At best, their higher value + depressed market = same value as this off season. Which automatically is a better option, since its less risk for us. As i said, Demko isn't ready to be a starter but might be in 1 more season. Marky may improve his stock even further (thus yeilding even more in value of trade) or prove that it was just a career season, thus saving us from a goalie situation by prematurely trading Demko. Waiting = less risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yung1 Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Kanukfanatic said: Go to school junior. It is "you are". "Kanuk" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, canuckistani said: Disagree. Even if the market is depressed next off season, Marky and Demko are both likely to improve their stock through next season, to yeild higher values then, than now. At best, their higher value + depressed market = same value as this off season. Which automatically is a better option, since its less risk for us. As i said, Demko isn't ready to be a starter but might be in 1 more season. Marky may improve his stock even further (thus yeilding even more in value of trade) or prove that it was just a career season, thus saving us from a goalie situation by prematurely trading Demko. Waiting = less risk. You're leaving far too much to chance IMO. There are zero guarantees that Marky betters his career year or that Demko doesn't hiccup in his sophomore season. Or that either get hurt. etc, etc. What if Marky gets hurt and Demko struggles under the load of starting? There's so many scenarios where it goes sideways and then we add the ED market pressures. By no means am I suggesting Benning force a deal this summer but he should certainly be looking long and hard at any serious options. And if we can get a young, 2nd pair right D or top 6 W for either (or packaged) and sign a solid vet to step in, we shouldn't hesitate IMO. Edited April 5, 2019 by aGENT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckistani Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, aGENT said: You're leaving far too much to chance IMO. There are zero guarantees that Marky betters his career year or that Demko doesn't hiccup in his sophomore season. Or that either get hurt. etc, etc. No, i am leaving LESS to chance. We have two goalies right now - one who just had his best season and may- MAY- finally be solidifying as a top 10 starter goalie in the league and another who is a highly regarded prospect who is taking steps in the right direction. Odds are pretty obvious that hanging on to BOTH of them for now is a lower risk for the team, than trading one of them right now and hoping who we kept doesn't hiccup or keeps going strong. 3 minutes ago, aGENT said: What if Marky gets hurt and Demko struggles under the load of starting? There's so many scenarios where it goes sideways and then we add the ED market pressures. By no means am I suggesting Benning force a deal this summer but he should certainly be looking long and hard at any serious options. And if we can get a young, 2nd pair right D or top 6 W for either (or packaged) and sign a solid vet to step in, we shouldn't hesitate IMO. unless top 6W is actually a bonafide 1st line winger, then yes, we should definitely hesitate and hold on for next TDL/off season. Minimizes risk for the team currently. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 1 minute ago, canuckistani said: No, i am leaving LESS to chance. We have two goalies right now - one who just had his best season and may- MAY- finally be solidifying as a top 10 starter goalie in the league and another who is a highly regarded prospect who is taking steps in the right direction. Odds are pretty obvious that hanging on to BOTH of them for now is a lower risk for the team, than trading one of them right now and hoping who we kept doesn't hiccup or keeps going strong. unless top 6W is actually a bonafide 1st line winger, then yes, we should definitely hesitate and hold on for next TDL/off season. Minimizes risk for the team currently. Agree to disagree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 In a curious turn of events, Demko has finished the year with a higher save percentage (.913) than Markstrom (.912). Obviously, workload needs to be taken into consideration, but I didn't see it coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneSeventeen Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Demko's stats might not reflect this, but I thought he was fairly impressive in the games he played this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniwaki Canuck Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 He's been getting better with every start and was right up there with Markstrom at his best today. We're going to be super-solid in net next year and can spread the load around. Should help avoid the tailspins that sunk us this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Elias Pettersson Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 Looks like we have a great tandem for next year to help us with a playoff push. Goaltending will definitely be one of our strengths next year along with centre ice. Now let's get some wingers to hang out with BO and Petey... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Just named to the US WHC team along with Schneider and a goalie not in the NHL. Good chance Thatchy D could take the reigns and be the starter for the US 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Just now, Tre Mac said: Just named to the US WHC team along with Schneider and a goalie not in the NHL. Good chance Thatchy D could take the reigns and be the starter for the US Just shows how much Demko is respected as an elite goalie. I really think we need to trade Marky, and let Demko take over. He's a winner! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Is Demko still considered a rookie for next year? I can't exactly recall the details of the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kootenay Gold Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, -AJ- said: Is Demko still considered a rookie for next year? I can't exactly recall the details of the rules. Rookie Qualifications. To be considered a rookie, a player must not have played in more than 25 NHL games in any preceding seasons, nor in six or more NHL games in each of any two preceding seasons. Any player at least 26 years of age (by September 15th of that season) is not considered a rookie. I would assume that this applies to goalies as well. Edited April 19, 2019 by Kootenay Gold 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 14 minutes ago, Kootenay Gold said: Rookie Qualifications. To be considered a rookie, a player must not have played in more than 25 NHL games in any preceding seasons, nor in six or more NHL games in each of any two preceding seasons. Any player at least 26 years of age (by September 15th of that season) is not considered a rookie. I would assume that this applies to goalies as well. Guess he is. Neat! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goaliefreak68 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 (edited) https://www.nhl.com/canucks/news/vancouver-canucks-thatcher-demko/c-306997264 Demko extends for 2 years. Edited April 24, 2019 by goaliefreak68 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CanuckinEdm Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 does Thatcher get the next start or do they give it back to Schneider? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 My guess is Schneider, go with the veteran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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