Canucks1219 Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Hopefully it doesn't even last until 2017. Well, assuming he finishes his 4 years, we won't be able to dress him in a lineup until 2017. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaMash Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Demko didn't look as good as he did against Canada, but then again, the entire American team didn't. He still looked pretty good though. You can see he has a lot of natural talent, and he definitely reminds me of Schneider and most new age goalies where his game is quite robotic most of the time (which I think is good). The reffing was disgusting though. The Russian's got away with way too much flopping and dirty play. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 (edited) Hopefully it doesn't even last until 2017. That's been my only hope since we signed Miller. I don't mind the signing, I just mind the term with all the younger talent we have in goal. Demko looked like he was trying to get out of a few spots with his athleticism, and if he's able to do that without getting into too much trouble then I'm all for it. He can certainly play the positional game pretty well and cover a little with his long legs and big body, he'll just have to be smart about it. EDIT: reading some of the earlier comments, figured I should add that I didn't think he was the problem at all in today's game. Some bad deflections and all that, but sometimes when you get a goalie on his game he's in the way of even those. He wasn't the goalie to change the game for his team. Edited January 3, 2015 by elvis15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklax Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Well, assuming he finishes his 4 years, we won't be able to dress him in a lineup until 2017. Most high NCAA picks don't go all 4. I see him at BC for one year more after this, unless the AHL goalie situation is cleared out for him to join next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks1219 Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Most high NCAA picks don't go all 4. I see him at BC for one year more after this, unless the AHL goalie situation is cleared out for him to join next season I see. Sadly, I don't have a very good grasp of the NCAA or college sports in general. I knew that many students don't finish all 4 years but I thought maybe it was a little different for goalies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 (edited) I see. Sadly, I don't have a very good grasp of the NCAA or college sports in general. I knew that many students don't finish all 4 years but I thought maybe it was a little different for goalies. One thing that worries me is whether Demko will sign with the Canucks at all. With NCAA players the NHL team that drafts them has up until 30 days after the player "leaves school" to sign them. If they are are over 20 at that time they can sign with any team after the 30 days are over (although they must still sign an entry level contract). Usually they sign before that (and there are strong financial incentives to do so), but if Demko wants to stay at Boston College (BC) and graduate there, that will take 2 more years after this year. He will be over 20 at that time and could sign with any team. I hope that he makes this season his last season playing for BC instead. He would then need to sign with the Canucks. He can then get the surgery he needs (paid for by the Canucks), missing most the 2015-16 season. He can continue to go to school at Boston College get his degree and be ready to play in the AHL in 2016-17. That is probably the best case for the Canucks. Edited January 4, 2015 by JamesB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihaveyuidonttouchme Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 here's his game vs Russia it wasnt much but it's something 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyhee Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) One thing that worries me is whether Demko will sign with the Canucks at all. With NCAA players the NHL team that drafts them has up until 30 days after the player "leaves school" to sign them. If they are are over 20 at that time they can sign with any team after the 30 days are over (although they must still sign an entry level contract). Usually they sign before that (and there are strong financial incentives to do so), but if Demko wants to stay at Boston College (BC) and graduate there, that will take 2 more years after this year. He will be over 20 at that time and could sign with any team. I hope that he makes this season his last season playing for BC instead. He would then need to sign with the Canucks. He can then get the surgery he needs (paid for by the Canucks), missing most the 2015-16 season. He can continue to go to school at Boston College get his degree and be ready to play in the AHL in 2016-17. That is probably the best case for the Canucks. My reading of the CBA is somewhat different. The rules were changed a bit in the most recent collective bargaining agreement. Demko started college in 2013 and was drafted at the age of 18 in June, 2014, though he'd turn 19 before the end of 2014. The relevant paragraph if he stays with his graduating class is 8.6(c )(i) which would give the Canucks his rights until August 15, 2017, when his college class graduates. Accordingly, if he stays in school until his class graduates in 2017, he could become a free agent by refusing to sign with the Canucks before August 15, 2017. However, the situation you describe is him leaving school. The relevant paragraph appears to me to be 8.6(c )(ii) which reads: If a Player drafted at age 18 or 19 is a bona fide college student at the time of his selection in the Entry Draft, or becomes a bona fide college student prior to the first June 1 following his selection in the Entry Draft, and does not remain a bona fide college student through the graduation of his college class, his drafting Club shall retain exclusive rights for the negotiation of his services until the later of: (a) the fourth June 1 following his selection in the Entry Draft, or ( thirty (30) days after NHL Central Registry receives notice that the Player is no longer a bona fide college student; provided that if the Player ceases to be a bona fide college student on or after January 1 of an academic year and the Player: (1) is in his fourth year of college and has commenced his fourth year of NCAA eligibility, or (2) is in his fourth year of college and is scheduled to graduate from college at the end of his fourth year, then in the circumstances described in (1) or (2), the Club shall retain the exclusive right of negotiation for such Player's services through and including the August 15 following the date on which he ceases to be a bona fide college student. The Club need not make a Bona Fide Offer to such Player to retain such rights. _________ So, typically if he were to leave school the Canucks would keep his rights until the later of June 1, 2018 and the day which is 30 days after the NHL receives notice he's left college. Effectively this means they'd keep his rights until June 1, 2018 if he left school, unless the notice he'd left school was received after January 1, 2017 in which case the Canucks would only keep his rights through August 15, 2017-the same as if he stayed in school. Edited January 5, 2015 by tyhee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) Straight out comments from American fans, they thought if it was not for demko would have been a blow out for the Russians. Btw does demko remind anyone of J S gigure ?. Edited January 5, 2015 by MoneypuckOverlord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avelanch Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) Straight out comments from American fans, they thought if it was not for demko would have been a blow out for the Russians. Btw does demko remind anyone of J S gigure ?. no, Demko looks actually skilled and not reliant on ridiculously oversized pads to make stops. plus he's very technical (i guess that happens when you have to teach yourself goaltending by downloading training vids from the internet) whereas Giguere was all over the place. Edited January 5, 2015 by avelanch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amish Rake Fighter Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Boston College is about to face off with Northeastern on TSN2, channel 147 on Shaw in Vancouver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baer. Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Boston College is about to face off with Northeastern on TSN2, channel 147 on Shaw in Vancouver 901 on Telus Optik TV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asian player Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 4-2 win for Demko and BC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Demko ends the game with a .943 SV% and a 2.00 GA Made 17 saves in the 2nd to hold the lead for the Eagles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horvat Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 great game, wish he didn't let in that easy one in the 1st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 My reading of the CBA is somewhat different. The rules were changed a bit in the most recent collective bargaining agreement. Demko started college in 2013 and was drafted at the age of 18 in June, 2014, though he'd turn 19 before the end of 2014. The relevant paragraph if he stays with his graduating class is 8.6(c )(i) which would give the Canucks his rights until August 15, 2017, when his college class graduates. Accordingly, if he stays in school until his class graduates in 2017, he could become a free agent by refusing to sign with the Canucks before August 15, 2017. However, the situation you describe is him leaving school. The relevant paragraph appears to me to be 8.6(c )(ii) which reads: If a Player drafted at age 18 or 19 is a bona fide college student at the time of his selection in the Entry Draft, or becomes a bona fide college student prior to the first June 1 following his selection in the Entry Draft, and does not remain a bona fide college student through the graduation of his college class, his drafting Club shall retain exclusive rights for the negotiation of his services until the later of: (a) the fourth June 1 following his selection in the Entry Draft, or ( thirty (30) days after NHL Central Registry receives notice that the Player is no longer a bona fide college student; provided that if the Player ceases to be a bona fide college student on or after January 1 of an academic year and the Player: (1) is in his fourth year of college and has commenced his fourth year of NCAA eligibility, or (2) is in his fourth year of college and is scheduled to graduate from college at the end of his fourth year, then in the circumstances described in (1) or (2), the Club shall retain the exclusive right of negotiation for such Player's services through and including the August 15 following the date on which he ceases to be a bona fide college student. The Club need not make a Bona Fide Offer to such Player to retain such rights. _________ So, typically if he were to leave school the Canucks would keep his rights until the later of June 1, 2018 and the day which is 30 days after the NHL receives notice he's left college. Effectively this means they'd keep his rights until June 1, 2018 if he left school, unless the notice he'd left school was received after January 1, 2017 in which case the Canucks would only keep his rights through August 15, 2017-the same as if he stayed in school. Great response. Thanks very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post -Vintage Canuck- Posted January 17, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2015 (edited) Tyson Giuriato @TysonGiuriato #Canucks prospect Thatcher Demko with a 31-save win tonight. In his last seven games, he is 4-1-2 with a 1.56 GAA and a .955 SV% Edited January 17, 2015 by -Vintage Canuck- 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WonderTwinPowers Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Tyson Giuriato @TysonGiuriato#Canucks prospect Thatcher Demko with a 31-save win tonight. In his last seven games, he is 4-1-2 with a 1.56 GAA and a .955 SV% Kids definitely seemed motivated since the WJC ended. Hope he keeps it up, seems like Franchise goalie potential is written all over him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFistPedan Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Demko playing on TSN right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amish Rake Fighter Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 (edited) Demko playing on TSN right now. TSN2 channel 147 in Vancouver on Shaw Edited January 22, 2015 by Amish Rake Fighter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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