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[WeneedLumme]

Just now, ThaShady1 said:

I think he meant Bachelors of Communications. Not sure if that’s a thing but that’s my assumption. Taking a leap on that, as it were. 

You are wrong. BComm is Bachelor of Commerce.

[Alflives]

1 minute ago, WeneedLumme said:

You are wrong. BComm is Bachelor of Commerce.

What’s that old proverbial saying?  “Those who can’t...teach, and those who can’t teach...do gym”.  It’s something like that?

[GreyHatnDart]

9 minutes ago, WeneedLumme said:

You are wrong. BComm is Bachelor of Commerce.

Well, Google says otherwise. Thanks for your definitive answer. 

[J-23]

 

[J-23]

More Info.

 

[CRAZY_4_NAZZY]

Hypothetically speaking, if and when Nik's season is over in the KHL, and say Canucks are competing for playoff spot/or very likely are in a playoff contention position, would you spring to bring back Nikita?  And would he have to clear waivers considering he is playing over in Europe and signing him midseason?

 

Not that it would be likely, but wonder if being a compeitive team also entices him to comeback.

[The Lock]

6 hours ago, WeneedLumme said:

So do I. But when I went to school, we learned about business. People who wanted to learn how to teach others got BEds, not BComms. Education is what Willie studied, not Commerce. Your post does not make sense.

Last I checked, you needed communication skills in both.

 

(Or you just went to university to party...)

Edited December 6, 2017 by The Lock

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2 hours ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said:

Hypothetically speaking, if and when Nik's season is over in the KHL, and say Canucks are competing for playoff spot/or very likely are in a playoff contention position, would you spring to bring back Nikita?  And would he have to clear waivers considering he is playing over in Europe and signing him midseason?

 

Not that it would be likely, but wonder if being a compeitive team also entices him to comeback.

Hell yes I would bring him back.  

 

I'd have no issues giving Nikita 4 million per year if he's willing to sign a 4 year contract.  

 

The way that it's set up though, he's got two more years left on his KHL contract after this one, so I think that we won't see him for a couple more years.  

[WeneedLumme]

6 hours ago, The Lock said:

Last I checked, you needed communication skills in both.

 

(Or you just went to university to party...)

When discussing Willie's ability to teach Tram, a degree in teaching is obviously relevant. A degree in Commerce does not teach you how to teach others. As you should know if you have one. You seem to be being willfully obtuse.

[Rob_Zepp]

6 hours ago, VancouverHabitant said:

 

 

I'd have no issues giving Nikita 4 million per year if he's willing to sign a 4 year contract.  

 

 

Cool.   What would you have him do for you?   Would you loan him out to the Canucks and charge them a fee or are you just independently wealthy and like huge Russian guys on your staff?

 

[Boudrias]

The KHL is not a reliable measure of a players game IMHO. Tryamkin has to prove himself in the NHL before he gets a contract for duration and value. He has all the ingredients of a solid prospect and I only wish he had got coached by Green before he decided to leave. 

[SilentSam]

6 hours ago, Boudrias said:

The KHL is not a reliable measure of a players game IMHO. Tryamkin has to prove himself in the NHL before he gets a contract for duration and value. He has all the ingredients of a solid prospect and I only wish he had got coached by Green before he decided to leave. 

Latest article on Big Nik,.

 

https://theathletic.com/177085/2017/12/06/nikita-tryamkins-potential-is-beginning-to-shine-through-in-the-khl/

 

Just mention Nikita Tryamkin’s name to Canucks fans and you’ll get a reaction. It’s either “I miss the big guy” or “he's gone, good riddance.”

Whichever side of the fence you are on, you can’t help but wonder what he is up to. He may not be playing for the Canucks right now but he sure he isn’t forgotten.

This past weekend The Athletic'sJason Brough talked with Canucks general manager Jim Benning about the prospect of Tryamkin making a return to the Canucks. Benning laid out the terms clearly.

“It's up to him,” Benning said. “He holds all the cards. He has to want to play here. He signed a three-year contract to play over there. This is the first year of that contract.”

The primary reason Tryamkin left Vancouver and returned to the KHL was said to be due to a desire for more ice time, averaging 16:44 in 66 games last season for the Canucks

He's gotten his wish playing for Avtomobilist Yekaterinburg, where he's averaging 20:54 per game, and in turn, it's clear he has his confidence back. He was named the KHL defenceman of the month for October and November and has seven goals and fourteen assists in 37 games, while also registering career highs in hits (86), shots (106) and PIM (87).

Watching the 6-foot-7 defender, you can see the confidence coming back to his game. He was unsure what to do at times in the NHL, especially with the puck. Too often when he had possession in the defensive zone it was glass and out or chip it out. There wasn’t a willingness to carry the puck with regularity. This year in the KHL, it’s the opposite. Tryamkin isn’t afraid to rush the puck or be physical in front of the net to clear the way.

 

There were the stories last year about how the Canucks showed Tryamkin videos of Chris Pronger and suggested he play like that. We don’t know the extent of what happened but we can surmise the Canucks saw something in Tryamkin and the organization was hoping to extract it. It’s not the videos that were needed, it was ice time and allowing him to figure out what he kind of player he can be, which is a big and strong defender who has an underrated shot and skating abilities.

When the Canucks took the big Russian in the third round in 2014, I felt that he was a limited upside guy that had a legitimate shot to be a No. 5/6 defenceman. I really focused in on him before he made the leap to North America, and through my viewings, you could see some flashes but never long runs of great play. So far this year, Tryamkin is capitalizing on his opportunity and appears to be rounding out his game.

Obviously, the KHL is not the NHL. But Tryamkin's play has taken a noticeable step forward, and if he does ever return to the Canucks, he could be easily inserted into their top six.

Now, about the Olympics. With the NHL deciding not to allow its players to take part, there was an opportunity for players like Tryamkin to represent their national teams. Earlier this week, however, Russia was barred from the 2018 Winter Games in Pyeongchang, South Korea, as a punishment for a state-sponsored doping program ahead of the 2014 Sochi Games. Russian athletes are eligible to compete as a neutral, but where that leaves the hockey team and its players is still unclear. The KHL may forbid their players from attending in response to the IOC's decision.

Before the sanctions came down, though, The Athletic reached out to KHL insider Aivis Kalnins to get his thoughts on Tryamkin’s chances of making the Russian team:

“Nikita is on Team Russia's Olympic radar. From what I've gathered and with the information I have, I believe that Tryamkin is more than a lock for their Olympic team, baring anything unexplainable. Tryamkin’s size is what attracts people, however this time it's about him playing out of his mind in the KHL this season. He has performed very well, has NHL experience and has the potential to be one of the leaders heading into the tournament.”

Obviously, if NHL players were going to the Olympics, Tryamkin’s chances would’ve been significantly lower. But the fact that the 23-year-old was considered to be a lock by someone who is well connected with the Russian national team tells you how well the Canucks prospect has played this year.

Whenever I bring up Tryamkin, people cringe. It almost feels like a breakup; you don’t want to hear how well your ex is doing without you. It can hurt to get those updates.

But at least in this case, Canucks fans can take some solace in knowing how well Tryamkin has been playing. He isn’t a perfect player, but there is little doubt that he could be a very useful option for the Canucks – if he ever chooses to come back.

When Tryamkin first arrived in Vancouver late in the 2015-16 season there was some fanfare, mostly because fans didn’t know what to expect. The management team had talked him up, and given how little was known about him, there was some hype to his debut. In those 13 games to close out the season, he teased that potential. He was physical at times, taking on an entire Anaheim Ducks line in one game. He used his size and strength to box out opponents.

There was hope Tryamkin was ready to establish himself in 2016-17, but the season did not go all that smoothly. The Canucks couldn't send him to the AHL – which may have been in the best interest of his development – due to an out clause in his contract. When he did get in the lineup he showed more flashes but not enough to receive the ice time he desperately wanted. It precipitated his move back to Russia, where with his coveted ice time he's now dominating.

The Canucks own Tryamkin's rights until July 1, 2022, and could be longer if they place him on the defected reserve list. Tryamkin is in the first year of his three-year deal with Avtomobilist, but that doesn’t mean we might not see him again. If he plays here like he has so far in the KHL, Canucks fans would be wise to welcome him back with open arms because he has the ability to be an impact player.

(Top photo: Artyom KorotayevTASS via Getty Images)

Edited December 6, 2017 by SilentSam

[JM_]

there's a "defected reserve list"? huh. 

 

I was finally over this and now it seems its going to keep going and going, like Coronation Street. 

[The Lock]

On 12/6/2017 at 7:48 AM, WeneedLumme said:

When discussing Willie's ability to teach Tram, a degree in teaching is obviously relevant. A degree in Commerce does not teach you how to teach others. As you should know if you have one. You seem to be being willfully obtuse.

Then why did I have a course in teaching others in commerce?

 

Assumptions much?

[WeneedLumme]

3 hours ago, The Lock said:

Then why did I have a course in teaching others in commerce?

 

Assumptions much?

Apparently in your mind A course taught you as much or more about teaching as those who have an entire degree in teaching. Much like someone who took A high school course in business assuming that they learned as much or more about business as you learned in half a decade while earning a BComm. Arrogant much?

[The Lock]

1 hour ago, WeneedLumme said:

Apparently in your mind A course taught you as much or more about teaching as those who have an entire degree in teaching. Much like someone who took A high school course in business assuming that they learned as much or more about business as you learned in half a decade while earning a BComm. Arrogant much?

Huh? Again, assumptions much?

 

I never said any of those things; yet, you want to force your own spin on what I said in order to come up with an argument. A little hypocritical then to start calling one arrogant when you start making assumptions in an arrogant manner.

 

Anyway, this isn't a conversation anymore for this thread. If you actually have a problem with me, then take it up with me in private messages. I hate spamming threads with blabber like this.

[SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME]

So Tryamkin didn’t play in Avto’s game today. Not sure why. Maybe the match penalty last game triggered a suspension (although I haven’t seen anything to this effect from the KHL’s disciplinary body). Or maybe injured?

[-Vintage Canuck-]

6 minutes ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said:

So Tryamkin didn’t play in Avto’s game today. Not sure why. Maybe the match penalty last game triggered a suspension (although I haven’t seen anything to this effect from the KHL’s disciplinary body). Or maybe injured?

He was suspended for one game.

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On 12/6/2017 at 8:14 AM, Rob_Zepp said:

Cool.   What would you have him do for you?   Would you loan him out to the Canucks and charge them a fee or are you just independently wealthy and like huge Russian guys on your staff?

 

Mainly the latter...  I'm going for an independent estate up in British Properties and need every Russian or Colombian that I can get on my security staff.  

[SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME]

35 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said:

He was suspended for one game.

Makes sense. Just strange it’s not coming up on the KHL website with the other suspensions this week.

 

I kinda forgot about that 5+20 penalty (for offensive gestures) he got earlier in the year. Last game was his second 5+20 penalty of the season, which I believe triggers an automatic 1 game suspension.