MoneypuckOverlord Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Tryamkin just liked the Instagram feed that announced Hughes will play for the u.s. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WeneedLumme Posted April 6, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 6, 2019 5 hours ago, MoneypuckOverlord said: Tryamkin just liked the Instagram feed that announced Hughes will play for the u.s. So you are saying that Tryamkin hates Canada? I knew it! We need to trade his rights for a 9th round pick in 2025 right away, while they still have some value. Asset management! 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 13 hours ago, MoneypuckOverlord said: Tryamkin just liked the Instagram feed that announced Hughes will play for the u.s. So what you are saying is he just liked the Instagram feed of his future partner in the NHL... 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 On 4/6/2019 at 5:59 AM, SingleThorn said: Hmmmm........would he have to pass through waivers to get on our roster ? If not, welcome back !!!! Waivers are only on the way down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SingleThorn Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 1 hour ago, stawns said: Waivers are only on the way down Not when coming from Europe. We own his rights, so as @theo5789 ^^ says, that might only apply to 'free agents'. The Ryan O'Reilly offer sheet meant that if he had signed with Calgary, he would have to pass waivers to get to the NHL. Obviously different situations, but I get easily confused ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Monahan Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 29 minutes ago, SingleThorn said: Not when coming from Europe. We own his rights, so as @theo5789 ^^ says, that might only apply to 'free agents'. The Ryan O'Reilly offer sheet meant that if he had signed with Calgary, he would have to pass waivers to get to the NHL. Obviously different situations, but I get easily confused ! I think re-entry waivers were scrapped in the current CBA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted April 7, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 7, 2019 Article 13.23: “13.23 In the event a professional or former professional Player plays in a league outside North America after the start of the NHL Regular Season, other than on Loan from his Club, he may thereafter play in the NHL during that Playing Season (including Playoffs) only if he has first either cleared or been obtained via Waivers. For the balance of the Playing Season, any such Player who has been obtained via Waivers may be Traded or Loaned only after again clearing Waivers or through Waiver claim. This section shall not apply to a Player on the Reserve List or Restricted Free Agent List of an NHL Club with whom the Player is signing an NHL SPC or is party to an existing SPC with such NHL Club.” These waivers would not apply to Tryamkin signing with Vancouver, per final sentence of section. However, if another team tried to sign him mid-season, he would need to pass through waivers (like ROR and the Calgary offer sheet). None of this applies to Vancouver, as owning Tryamkin’s rights exempts the club from the waivers described in Article 13.23. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 1 hour ago, SingleThorn said: Not when coming from Europe. We own his rights, so as @theo5789 ^^ says, that might only apply to 'free agents'. The Ryan O'Reilly offer sheet meant that if he had signed with Calgary, he would have to pass waivers to get to the NHL. Obviously different situations, but I get easily confused ! Good to know, thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 I heard that in Russia, the training camp/ preseason is a month long...is this true? If so, it was reported that this was the reason Tryamkin came in "out of shape" his first year because he was expecting to get in shape during a one month long training camp; however, he was surprised that the NHL had only a two week training camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 13 minutes ago, Pete M said: I heard that in Russia, the training camp/ preseason is a month long...is this true? If so, it was reported that this was the reason Tryamkin came in "out of shape" his first year because he was expecting to get in shape during a one month long training camp; however, he was surprised that the NHL had only a two week training camp. If that was true, why did he show up in such terrible shape it took him several months to slim down? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 35 minutes ago, Pete M said: I heard that in Russia, the training camp/ preseason is a month long...is this true? If so, it was reported that this was the reason Tryamkin came in "out of shape" his first year because he was expecting to get in shape during a one month long training camp; however, he was surprised that the NHL had only a two week training camp. That's why you have an agent/advisor to keep you up to date with expectations. Let's hope that has been resolved because if he shows such disregard for the needs of the NHL then his likelihood of success is pretty slim. He has value but without the smarts it means little Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Pete M said: I heard that in Russia, the training camp/ preseason is a month long...is this true? If so, it was reported that this was the reason Tryamkin came in "out of shape" his first year because he was expecting to get in shape during a one month long training camp; however, he was surprised that the NHL had only a two week training camp. Let’s not dwindle on what has passed, regardless of the truth or falseness of rumours from 2-3 years ago.. The Canucks have a bright future ahead .. Having Tryamkin back sooner than later would be a powerful move. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted April 7, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 7, 2019 1 hour ago, gurn said: If that was true, why did he show up in such terrible shape it took him several months to slim down? I think miscommunication was definitely a factor. And I put a lot of the blame on his agent. The first year, he showed up in mid season form. But then when he came back the following year for his first full season, Tryamkin seemed to show up expecting a KHL style camp (where they have about a month and a half of practices, exhibitions, tournaments, etc). KHL guys basically show up after their vacation, and many come back in the kind of shape you’d be in after taking an actual vacation. And then they get worked really hard by their teams for several weeks and get into proper shape. NHL guys basically have to do their own private training camps before they even arrive at their actual team camp. They are expected to arrive already in top shape (for the most part), which is a bit different from the KHL. I got the feeling Tryamkin expected he’d just play his way into shape during camp, preseason, and even into the opening weeks of the season. But this is not the NHL way. Show up in bad shape for testing day in the NHL, and you are automatically in hot water with the coaches and staff. It’s an adjustment every player has to make when they come to the NHL, and most players know about it going in and are properly prepared, but Tryamkin seemed to have missed the memo, and that’s a failure on the people around him. I put most of this on his agent, but probably the Canucks could have also done more to make sure the big guy had a clear understanding of what was expected for his first NHL training camp. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 ^ Probably true, but the guy wasn't in "give him a month" and he'll be ready to go shape. So some of it is on him for not even being in "KHL pre season shape". I am hoping he either comes back, ready to go or is traded soon, as I am truly getting tired of the whole deal. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Slegr Posted April 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 10, 2019 It's time, JB. Time to offer Tryamkin a deal that will comfortably allow him to buy out his remaining season in the KHL, and be a big part of the Canucks' 50th season. Tryamkin will bring the added element we need to land ourselves back in the post-season. Let's make it happen in 2019/20. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nergish Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 38 minutes ago, Slegr said: It's time, JB. Time to offer Tryamkin a deal that will comfortably allow him to buy out his remaining season in the KHL, and be a big part of the Canucks' 50th season. Tryamkin will bring the added element we need to land ourselves back in the post-season. Let's make it happen in 2019/20. I'm with you. Tree was a bit of a baby about things, but where else are we going to find a 6'8 freak to play defence for us? He is the missing ingredient for our new-look D-core. Jimbo, please do not sign Myers. We have a guy already in our system, just bring him home. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Slegr said: It's time, JB. Time to offer Tryamkin a deal Yes, now is the time. Even if it means we have to wait til March. Tryamkin can do more for his family here, a signing bonus IF he wants to leave early or just wait and notify the league in Dec so he's eligible to play for us in the playoffs. A NHL contract would settle some family here comfortably and set off a designing career for his wife Anastasia. He could be the boost we need considering the yearly drafting boondoggle. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 12 hours ago, nergish said: Jimbo, please do not sign Myers. We have a guy already in our system, just bring him home. Agree with this and have posted as much. If there's ANY way of getting him here this summer, it would be FAR preferred to offering Myers something like a $7mx7 year contract. It would also likely allow us to package Hutton for either a right D or a top 6 forward. Edler, Trade/Stecher Tryamkin, Stecher/Trade Hughes, Tanev UFA/Sautner/Brisebois and Biega/Schenn to fight it out for 7 and 8 spots with Juolevi starting in Utica until we have injuries/move Tanev. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 5 hours ago, aGENT said: Agree with this and have posted as much. If there's ANY way of getting him here this summer, it would be FAR preferred to offering Myers something like a $7mx7 year contract. It would also likely allow us to package Hutton for either a right D or a top 6 forward. Edler, Trade/Stecher Tryamkin, Stecher/Trade Hughes, Tanev UFA/Sautner/Brisebois and Biega/Schenn to fight it out for 7 and 8 spots with Juolevi starting in Utica until we have injuries/move Tanev. why not have Tryamkin and Myers? Myers Stetch Tryamkin that turns a woeful rhd corps into a pretty formidable one 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 1 minute ago, stawns said: why not have Tryamkin and Myers? Myers Stetch Tryamkin that turns a woeful rhd corps into a pretty formidable one Certainly a possibility I'd not be opposed to, just not the route I'd take if it was up to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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