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3 hours ago, Hairy Kneel said:

 

Tryamkin is better than 8 of these guys in the list of those who played for us last year. And less injury prone than 2 of those ahead of him. And probably more physical than Schenn. Surely there's a spot for him when he gets back. Plus none of our young D has leap frogged into the pro's like Hutton did.

1 SE Alexander Edler 
2 CA Troy Stecher 
3 CA Ben Hutton 
4 CA Alex Biega
5 CA Derrick Pouliot 
6 CA Christopher Tanev  
7 CA Erik Gudbranson 
8 CA Michael Del Zotto 
9 US Quinton Hughes  
10 CA Luke Schenn  
11 CA Ashton Sautner
12 CA Guillaume Brisebois
13 US Brogan Rafferty
14 CA Josh Teves

OK, you would have said same if Philip Larsen was on that list....right?  Philip Holm?   Cody Franson?   Patrick Wiercioch?    These are just a sample of four guys in KHL who Canuck fans know who ALL were ranked ahead of the big guy last year for their play.  ALL of them.    Would Canuck nation be that excited for any of these guys coming back?   I get the fascination with his size and surprising mobility at that size - I like that too - but that isn't enough to overcome fact he has a ways to go to get where he needs to be in NHL.

 

Once again (and for 100th time at least), I am keen on this guy succeeding.   I am far from convinced, however, based upon facts that he will do it easily and I see all the hype as not going to help his cause.    

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48 minutes ago, GoldenAlien said:

 

I don't think he is a franchise Dman either...……..but plz don't quote any of these idiots on 1040

 

You will loose credibility...…….geez!

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3 minutes ago, janisahockeynut said:

I don't think he is a franchise Dman either...……..but plz don't quote any of these idiots on 1040

 

You will loose credibility...…….geez!

The world is full of em Jan.

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1 hour ago, Rob_Zepp said:

 

One word for you - Krutov.

 

 

Sorry, that was mean.   ALL the examples people give are for forwards.   Dmen simply do not develop in KHL like they do in North America.   All I am asking people to do is give the kid a chance IF he comes to develop...he will need that time/space and added to his challenge will be bad habits learned during three key years where he was not in North America.

Fetisov sure did...…..maybe not offensively.....but one hell of a Defensive Dman

 

The Krutov comment was funny though...………..you could have said donuts, and I would have known who you were thinking of....lol

 

PS...…………….I do get what you are saying...…….I am just going to wait and see....it may take a year to get it together, so I am good with that

 

of course I am hoping for him to be a 3/4 at least...……..but I do not expect him to be a #1...…………….possibly a #2, but my hopes are not that high

 

Just a solid 3/4 will be fine.

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2 hours ago, Rob_Zepp said:

OK, you would have said same if Philip Larsen was on that list....right?  Philip Holm?   Cody Franson?   Patrick Wiercioch?    These are just a sample of four guys in KHL who Canuck fans know who ALL were ranked ahead of the big guy last year for their play.  ALL of them.    Would Canuck nation be that excited for any of these guys coming back?   I get the fascination with his size and surprising mobility at that size - I like that too - but that isn't enough to overcome fact he has a ways to go to get where he needs to be in NHL.

 

Once again (and for 100th time at least), I am keen on this guy succeeding.   I am far from convinced, however, based upon facts that he will do it easily and I see all the hype as not going to help his cause.    

He outplayed Larsen head to head in the playoffs.Larsen was invisible in their post season matchup.

The others barely established themselves as yet.

Did you watch Atvo's playoffs?

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He is probably very overrated but SO fun to watch. Such an oddity having a 6'8 Russian dman join the team. I thought he was going to suck but he wasn't too bad. The sample size was small at 13 games. The following season it started off rough with the healthy scratches but he ended up playing pretty solid. His size and ability to skate at his size generate a lot of excitement but he will probably be a Bryan Allen calibre NHL dman. That said still so fun to watch! 

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5 minutes ago, canucklehead44 said:

He is probably very overrated but SO fun to watch. Such an oddity having a 6'8 Russian dman join the team. I thought he was going to suck but he wasn't too bad. The sample size was small at 13 games. The following season it started off rough with the healthy scratches but he ended up playing pretty solid. His size and ability to skate at his size generate a lot of excitement but he will probably be a Bryan Allen calibre NHL dman. That said still so fun to watch

Good point. The product the team sells is entertainment, and Tram is definitely entertaining to watch. Nobody knows what kind of NHL career he is going to have, but I am really looking forward to watching it happen.

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7 hours ago, janisahockeynut said:

Fetisov sure did...…..maybe not offensively.....but one hell of a Defensive Dman

 

The Krutov comment was funny though...………..you could have said donuts, and I would have known who you were thinking of....lol

 

PS...…………….I do get what you are saying...…….I am just going to wait and see....it may take a year to get it together, so I am good with that

 

of course I am hoping for him to be a 3/4 at least...……..but I do not expect him to be a #1...…………….possibly a #2, but my hopes are not that high

 

Just a solid 3/4 will be fine.

Fetisov - the Hall of Famer?   He didn't go back and forth and please don't compare NT with VF.    

 

I am keen on seeing him too (NT), just tempered on what it will look like.    Not a chance he is a 1/2 in NHL based upon his play past few years.

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6 hours ago, Hairy Kneel said:

He outplayed Larsen head to head in the playoffs.Larsen was invisible in their post season matchup.

The others barely established themselves as yet.

Did you watch Atvo's playoffs?

Yup, I did.   NT was a turnover machine.

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4 hours ago, Rob_Zepp said:

Yup, I did.   NT was a turnover machine.

He was there best defensive defenseman. Number one pk unit. His clearances of the D zone were what kept them in the post season. I watched most of their games and he was no where near a "turn over machine".

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5 hours ago, Rob_Zepp said:

Yup, I did.   NT was a turnover machine.

Not true .

Edler is a veteran turn over machine.

Tryamkin not so much.

Tanev is a veteran straw man.

Tryamkin not so much.

... it’s getting a bit “Trump like” around here again.

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8 hours ago, SilentSam said:

Not true .

Edler is a veteran turn over machine.

Tryamkin not so much.

Tanev is a veteran straw man.

Tryamkin not so much.

... it’s getting a bit “Trump like” around here again.

Certainly appears there is some fake news happening in this thread!

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On 6/14/2019 at 12:49 PM, Hairy Kneel said:

He was there best defensive defenseman. Number one pk unit. His clearances of the D zone were what kept them in the post season. I watched most of their games and he was no where near a "turn over machine".

No, he was not their best defensive dman - not statistically and not to the eye.    He was not great a clearing the zone whatsoever, just look at both is zone exit and turnover stats.   Their best defensive dman was by far Vasilevsky.    Vishnevsky was far and away their best offensive Dman but Vasilvsky their best overall Dman both regular season and playoffs....in terms of block shots, zone exists etc. and was up their with Tryamkin for hits/game and total hits.  

 

Statistically, both end of the rink, the big guy had a lesser season this past year than the year before.

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On 6/14/2019 at 2:16 PM, SilentSam said:

Not true .

Edler is a veteran turn over machine.

Tryamkin not so much.

Tanev is a veteran straw man.

Tryamkin not so much.

... it’s getting a bit “Trump like” around here again.

I don't recall Edler play in any of the Avtomobilist (Ekaterinburg) games.   Tanev either.   What numbers did they wear?

 

Tryamkin had the "grenade on his stick" appearance in many games inclusive of the last two playoff games.   His GV/TK ratio was very poor all season but got worse in the playoffs.   

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1 minute ago, Rob_Zepp said:

I don't recall Edler play in any of the Avtomobilist (Ekaterinburg) games.   Tanev either.   What numbers did they wear?

 

Tryamkin had the "grenade on his stick" appearance in many games inclusive of the last two playoff games.   His GV/TK ratio was very poor all season but got worse in the playoffs.   

I love Big Nik’s first NHL shift.  On the ice, and off the ice ASAP so he could puke up the nerves.  I don’t think I’d ever seen that before.  

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5 minutes ago, Alflives said:

I love Big Nik’s first NHL shift.  On the ice, and off the ice ASAP so he could puke up the nerves.  I don’t think I’d ever seen that before.  

He is exciting to watch for sure and remains an adventure in his own end at times but with some coaching and effort on his part, the North American game is still possible for him but these three years in the peak of his development sure are not helping those chances Alf.

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1 hour ago, Rob_Zepp said:

I don't recall Edler play in any of the Avtomobilist (Ekaterinburg) games.   Tanev either.   What numbers did they wear?

 

Tryamkin had the "grenade on his stick" appearance in many games inclusive of the last two playoff games.   His GV/TK ratio was very poor all season but got worse in the playoffs.   

Did Edler or Tanev play any games last season in the NHL.?

           Edler and Tanev will be gone soon..  nothing to worry about.

We obviously see the game and watch players differently Rob..  I would rather have the potential of rising prospect in Tryamkin, than the decrepit decline of 2 players that offer half seasons of employment.. 2 grenades with their pins pulled.. 

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6 minutes ago, SilentSam said:

Did Edler or Tanev play any games last season in the NHL.?

           Edler and Tanev will be gone soon..  nothing to worry about.

We obviously see the game and watch players differently Rob..  I would rather have the potential of rising prospect in Tryamkin, than the decrepit decline of 2 players that offer half seasons of employment.. 2 grenades with their pins pulled.. 

I really don’t see why JB can’t get Tryamkin back this summer.  Sure there is Nikita buying out his final KHL year, but that should easily be covered by a rich signing bonus with us, right?  I’d rather pay Tryamkin than trade for Zaitsev. 

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