SilentSam Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 4 hours ago, Hairy Kneel said: The way Hutton busted out has proven to be a true anomaly. Been waiting on a young D man to step forward. Doesn't look like any are ready yet. Millennials... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 1 hour ago, aGENT said: If we're upgrading, I'd rather go big or go home and replace Tanev and Stecher altogether. Sign a guy like Pieterangelo and go with Rafferty/Tryamkin on that 3rd pair, right side. Someone like Ristolainen is an option too... But that's also costing us Virtanen + to acquire. Risto for Demko. I think that starts a conversation to add or subtract from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobayashi Maru Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 1 hour ago, aGENT said: If we're upgrading, I'd rather go big or go home and replace Tanev and Stecher altogether. Sign a guy like Pieterangelo and go with Rafferty/Tryamkin on that 3rd pair, right side. Someone like Ristolainen is an option too... But that's also costing us Virtanen + to acquire. I’d hate to do it but it would make sense with Virtanen if we re-sign Toffoli. I think DiPietro could be a key part of the deal too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Kobayashi Maru said: I’d hate to do it but it would make sense with Virtanen if we re-sign Toffoli. I think DiPietro could be a key part of the deal too. Boeser. For Risto and a 1 st ? Virtannen is still younger and progressing.. Boeser is going to cost us as much as Toffoli.. and personally I like Toffolis game over Boeser. Edited April 1, 2020 by SilentSam Damn spell check Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobayashi Maru Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 27 minutes ago, SilentSam said: Boeser. For Risto and a 1 st ? Virtannen is still younger and progressing.. Boeser is going to cost us as much as Toffoli.. and personally I like Toffolis game over Boeser. Actually an interesting hockey trade and we would get a first to compensate for the difference in value. It’s makes sense if you take emotion out of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 1 hour ago, SilentSam said: Risto for Demko. I think that starts a conversation to add or subtract from. IIRC, they don't need a young goalie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 16 minutes ago, aGENT said: IIRC, they don't need a young goalie. Then I digress.. 1 hour ago, SilentSam said: Boeser. For Risto and a 1 st ? Virtannen is still younger and progressing.. Boeser is going to cost us as much as Toffoli.. and personally I like Toffolis game over Boeser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DeNiro Posted April 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 1, 2020 Chicago didn’t win 3 cups by trading away their abundance of good forwards. They got them all to buy in and take a little less to win. Thats what Vancouver is going to have to try and do. Find a way to keep Boeser and Toffoli. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 I hear talks have started. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlastPast Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 (edited) I don't see Buffalo trading Risto; they are trying to suck less and trading their-by far- most used defenseman is not going to aid in that pursuit unless they can get a better replacement. Failing that, if Risto goes then they will have to play Montour more. Does that make them better? Colin Miller lacks appeal imo, and I doubt they are keen to move Jokiharju (sp?) so I could see Montour being available. He is an impending RFA and will be (I think) $3.5 to qualify and possibly more to get a longer deal done. If I had to speculate a price I would guess they would want a young centre and could have interest in Gaudette. Not saying I would do that but I could see the interest. I agree that if they (Van) are looking to upgrade RD they should go big but not a ton of viable options out there. Would not mind Tanev (based on a current cap of 81.5) back at 4.0 (or less obv.) for 3 years (4 if it can keep the AAV down a bit). Injuries are a concern but a replacement is tough to find and if they can keep it reasonable and avoid an obligation to protect him in the exp. draft I could see it. As for Tryamkin, I think he is overrated by some but also think he could be a solid option on the left side. I'm curious what a contract would look like. Some uncertainty there as he has been out the league for some time and didn't exactly tear up the KHL. Maybe a "show me" deal, something like $2-2.25 X 2 yrs. If he could come in and play a solid 16 mins/night at ES and another 2 on the PK that would be great. Edited April 1, 2020 by BlastPast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsiders Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Man I can't believe Kuzma goes on the Air and is like he probably needs to go to Utica. I just shake my head 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 29 minutes ago, Outsiders said: Man I can't believe Kuzma goes on the Air and is like he probably needs to go to Utica. I just shake my head Your kidding ?! honestly, apart from the usual disillusioned, drunk trolls on here.. there are more pragmatic discussions based on evidence, easily attained by video, and witness, on CDC. These journalists in Vancouver are mostly pocket jockeys patting each other on the back at each other’s barbecue night. There is a young man on Twitter that goes by Daniel Gee.. he spends hours cutting and editing highlights of our top prospects as soon as they’re signed until they make the NHL. Gee should do podcasts and start to kick these old schmucks out of they’re high school jock straps they keep sniffing. Daniel Gee .. a great source of info on prospects.. and I would be happy to see him join us here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Pete M said: I hear talks have started. Do you have a source for that other than the latest province clip/ interview Pete? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 4 hours ago, SilentSam said: Your kidding ?! honestly, apart from the usual disillusioned, drunk trolls on here.. there are more pragmatic discussions based on evidence, easily attained by video, and witness, on CDC. These journalists in Vancouver are mostly pocket jockeys patting each other on the back at each other’s barbecue night. There is a young man on Twitter that goes by Daniel Gee.. he spends hours cutting and editing highlights of our top prospects as soon as they’re signed until they make the NHL. Gee should do podcasts and start to kick these old schmucks out of they’re high school jock straps they keep sniffing. Daniel Gee .. a great source of info on prospects.. and I would be happy to see him join us here. I'm going to have to start following him more. Thanks for the heads up. (We're getting closer ) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 13 hours ago, SilentSam said: Then I digress.. Yeah and that likely costs us Virtanen, rights to Stecher and a prospect... If we're lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 1 hour ago, aGENT said: Yeah and that likely costs us Virtanen, rights to Stecher and a prospect... If we're lucky. What is a reasonable offer for Stech? And possible hometown discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Hairy Kneel said: What is a reasonable offer for Stech? And possible hometown discount. Salary offer or trade? I'm assuming salary as you mentioned home town discount. I think he could probably get $2.5-$3m x 2 or 3 years on the open market. I'm hoping we could get him closer to $2-2.5m x 1 or 2 years to stay. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 stecher will be traded for picks tryamkin will solidify our top 4 edler myers hughes tryamkin third pairing can fight it out for spots juolevi rafferty brisebois benn 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 On 3/31/2020 at 2:20 PM, Kobayashi Maru said: I would like to see us stop moving all of the existing deck chairs around. We need a D that compliments what we want to do at F and as a system. That appears to be an up-tempo pace with grit/pushback so we should find players that compliment that. Bringing in Tryamkin, one more bigger name (still thinking Risolainen is the right fit which would cost a bit), and maybe a rookie to bring in some youthful jump (Joulevi or Rafferty). I am a big Tanev fan, but unless his cap is neutral to his current contract, it likely doesn't make sense. Stecher I like as well, but not at his likely new contract. He doesn't process the game fast enough to pay 3M per year to be an energy guy. So something like: Edler Ristolainen Hughes Tryamkin Joulevi Myers This gives us puck movers at every position with a balance of offensive and defensive awareness. Plus, the only players that give limited grit would be Hughes and Joulevi. That D would also likely be the largest average D grouping that the league has ever seen. That is quite the fantasy line up but I really like it. Although honestly, I would prefer Tanev instead of Myers. Don't misunderstand this, I don't mind Myers. But instead of paying him 6 mill per I would MUCH prefer Tanev at 4 mill per which I think he would re sign at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 (edited) I love Tanev but him sitting for 20 or 30 games every year is tough. Was this season a fluke? Who knows. 4.5 is fair but not if he only plays for 2.5 or 3 million of it. Then that just puts a strain on the other 5 defenseman. The question then is if we spend on a top Dman UFA who is more durable, just as effective on pk (and probably more offensive) @ 5 to 5.5 m? Edited April 2, 2020 by Hairy Kneel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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