JamesB Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Obviously the Canucks scouts have taken a lot of criticism in light of the Canucks very poor drafting performance over the past 6 years. Benning decided to keep the scouting staff intact for the time being, however, which surprised some people.But Benning is obviously not relying too heavily on the scouts and is taking a very hands-on role. Here are the key points.1. Benning obviously spent a lot of time with Vertanen and scouted the kid personally as you might expect for a high draft pick.2. Benning also indicated that he saw Thatcher Demko play maybe 10 times at Boston College and scouted him carefully personally.3. Instead of using the #50 pick, the Canucks traded it for Vey, who was coached by Desjardins in junior.4. Instead of using the 3rd round pick the Canucks picked in the Kesler trade, Benning traded for Dorsett, who was also coached by Desjardins.5. Sbisa, who came over in the Kesler trade, was well-known to Benning from when he played for Philadelphia and was well-known to Desjardins from when Sbisa played for Lethbridge and Desjardins was coaching in Medicine Hat.6. Benning of course knew about Bonino given his time in the NHL, and it would not surprise me if Benning scouted him when he was playing in Syracuse.7. Most of the late-round picks looks like special "calls" or "plays" made by Benning -- guys who are big who might develop or other "lottery tickets" selected as part of an overall strategy.8. I have seen nothing that indicats that Benning had special personalized knowlege of McCann before the pre-draft period although it was not be a surprise if he did. But he was, at a minimum, intensely involved at the scouting combine and in pre-draft week.This is of course one reason why Linden hired Benning -- because he can, in effect, act like the head scout as well as GM. This seems very different and Gillis and most GM's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Too bad he didn't take a liking to Mckeown. Still pouting about that. Really nice to see our GM hands on with the draft. Time will tell how our later picks pan out if at all. Benning sounds like he really liked some of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoolander Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Even if this idea is true, I'm fine with it and I'm really happy with what's been happening the past few days. Our prospect pool is stocked nicely and because of the trades/picks made there will be a lot of internal competition and chemistry in the Canucks organization for years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bissurnette Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Really happy with the draft picks and I'm glad he's taking more of a hands on approach. Hoping he keeps it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Re. McCann, Benning likely had pretty good familiarity with picks near the bottom of the first round from his draft prep in Boston. Indeed, Linden said he seemed to know details about all 60 kids they interviewed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Too bad he didn't take a liking to Mckeown. Still pouting about that. Really nice to see our GM hands on with the draft. Time will tell how our later picks pan out if at all. Benning sounds like he really liked some of them. Can people watch Vey play before they continue to whine about McKeown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rey Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 What are you talking about ? Gustav Frosling, surely looked like a Gradin pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Could it also be why the move for first didn't transpire, in that we didn't want to move Shinkaruk, who was another Tigers captain? Did Desjardins ever coach Hunter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Guy is a workhorse plain and simple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dasein Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 What are you talking about ? Gustav Frosling, surely looked like a Gradin pick. Gradin's picked out some nice players for us so I think Benning trusted him with that one, but it does look like he didn't exactly rely on our North American scouts, who have been pretty bad aside from last season. Also, he consulted our Russian scout for the first time since forever because Gillis apparently had a "No Russian" policy.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Can people watch Vey play before they continue to whine about McKeown? I've seen him play and like the trade relax big man. No need to get all up tight in your underwear. I was just hoping we'd nab Mckeown. Vey sounds NHL ready and I think was a great addition. Someone needs to ease off the Benning corn pops or something Geez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyllenhaal Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 I wouldn't say he made all the picks. Gustav Forsling was probably a Gradin pick, and the huge Russian was chosen by one of our Russian scouts, Chibisov(?). But our first 2 and last 2 were definitely Benning's picks Also I wouldn't expect him to be as involved in next years draft since this year he probably scouted every player for Boston and now he is a GM so he won't have as much time to go out and scout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSniper88 Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 I'm happy that Benning is the one scouting and calling the shots on who to pick, I think we have given the past regime scouting staff enough chances. Benning is all business, I wouldn't be surprised if he fires some people from the staff and hire new scouts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangerines Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 I think Benning comunicated to our scouts that he is looking for big, gritty, powerful players with upside. The russian sure seems to fit that pick. It probably was the theme for this draft. The only smaller guy was Forsling, but we needed a defensive prospect like that in our pool. Plus if it was Gradins pick he chose Cederholm last year which fits the criteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking mama Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Glad to see that the Canucks roster is being seeded with players who are very familiar with the system & methods that Desjardins will be employing with his team. That should expedite the learning and hasten any transition - if the players are on the big club ...or down on the farm. Desjardins & Benning are obviously aware of these players strengths & those that have professional or exceptional work habits, determination & fitness goals...or not. I love the collaborating going on. It will be serving this organization well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Bob.Loblaw Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 If the OP is right, that's not necessarily a good thing. We need scouts. We can't always rely on the GM's judgment alone. He needs more eyes at the very least, and if JB doesn't trust the ones under Gillis, fire them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakyWalton Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Could it also be why the move for first didn't transpire, in that we didn't want to move Shinkaruk, who was another Tigers captain? Did Desjardins ever coach Hunter? Nope,, Willie left for Dallas in the 2010-11 season,,which was Hunters first season in Medicine Hat...but Willie did draft Hunter when he was 14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Can people watch Vey play before they continue to whine about McKeown? Exactly! As per TSN, the chance of someone in the 50 pick range of playing 100 games in the NHL is around 33% overall, and all scouts agreed that there are a lot of question marks all through this draft. So, instead of taking a wildcard chance on a guy that MIGHT help the team 4 or 5 years down the road, we have a guy who shows pretty good talent and has already proven he can perform in the WHL and be better than a PPG in the AHL and can step into the line up now and perform and help the team! LINK FOR YOUR REFERENCE: No. 46-50Average Rating: 2.69Best: Shea Weber, Milan Lucic, Mike Cammalleri.Ranked 7 or better: 12.0%Ranked 5 or worse: 81.0%At least 100 NHL games (or extremely likely): 32.0% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Stanley Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Obviously the Canucks scouts have taken a lot of criticism in light of the Canucks very poor drafting performance over the past 6 years. Benning decided to keep the scouting staff intact for the time being, however, which surprised some people. But Benning is obviously not relying too heavily on the scouts and is taking a very hands-on role. Here are the key points. 1. Benning obviously spent a lot of time with Vertanen and scouted the kid personally as you might expect for a high draft pick. 2. Benning also indicated that he saw Thatcher Demko play maybe 10 times at Boston College and scouted him carefully personally. 3. Instead of using the #50 pick, the Canucks traded it for Vey, who was coached by Desjardins in junior. 4. Instead of using the 3rd round pick the Canucks picked in the Kesler trade, Benning traded for Dorsett, who was also coached by Desjardins. 5. Sbisa, who came over in the Kesler trade, was well-known to Benning from when he played for Philadelphia and was well-known to Desjardins from when Sbisa played for Lethbridge and Desjardins was coaching in Medicine Hat. 6. Benning of course knew about Bonino given his time in the NHL, and it would not surprise me if Benning scouted him when he was playing in Syracuse. 7. Most of the late-round picks looks like special "calls" or "plays" made by Benning -- guys who are big who might develop or other "lottery tickets" selected as part of an overall strategy. 8. I have seen nothing that indicats that Benning had special personalized knowlege of McCann before the pre-draft period although it was not be a surprise if he did. But he was, at a minimum, intensely involved at the scouting combine and in pre-draft week. This is of course one reason why Linden hired Benning -- because he can, in effect, act like the head scout as well as GM. This seems very different and Gillis and most GM's. good points but our 3rd rounder was a guy recccomended by our russian scout who benning had seen play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerEpic5 Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Vey could turn into that top 6 center (Second line) we need. IMO he's like Valterri Filppula. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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