DownUndaCanuck Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Obviously we're not going to be contending for a while, but the Canucks should look to make the playoffs at least to build a winning culture for these kids to come into, similar to how the Avs and Wild are slowly growing as contending teams. To do that, we need to score goals, and after losing Kesler and Garrison, while not really grabbing any of the top-end UFA forwards, where are our goals going to come from? So far here's our opening night roster: Sedin - Sedin - Jensen Kassian - Bonino - Higgins Hansen - Matthias - Burrows Horvat - Richardson - Dorsett Shinkaruk - Vey - Archibald (injury replacements) Edler - Tanev Hamhuis - Bieksa Sbisa - Corrado Stanton/Weber These are fairly realistic estimates based on age and how well the player did last season. What do you guys think? Daniel = 24G (on the down-swing but Torts destroyed the twins production) Henrik = 13G Jensen = 16G (very optimistic but if he's a mainstay the Sedins will make him a scorer) Kassian = 26G (will get some Sedin time, had 14G last season thrown all around the roster) Bonino = 20G (going to get bigger minutes than the 2nd/3rd line center role last year where he scored 22) Higgins = 16G (getting older, not going to score at a 20 goal pace anymore) Hansen = 15G (pretty consistent 3rd liner, may break-out but probably won't) Matthias = 16G (deserves the 3C spot and showed he was better later in the season) Burrows = 12G (getting older and looked horrible last season, as well as at the world cup) Horvat = 6G (will be in and out of the lineup) Richardson = 8G (should be our staple 4C all season) Dorsett = 7G Shinkaruk = 6G (in about 30 games, should get lots of injury replacement time) Vey = 4G (in about 20 games, he's proven he can produce in the NHL already) Archibald = 0G Forwards total = 189 goals Edler = 8G (might score 40 points if he's lucky to bounce back, but will get lots of PP time with Garrison gone) Hamhuis = 6G Bieksa = 6G Tanev = 7G (showed some promise last season offensively, will get PP time with Garrison's loss) Corrado = 4G (has a heavy shot, showed he can score too) Sbisa = 3G Stanton = 1G Weber = 3G Defensemen totals = 38 goals Total = 227 goals Now considering the Kings, Wild, Red Wings, Rangers and Canadiens all scored less than 227 goals last year but were for the most part the most successful playoff teams, these Canucks aren't too far off. Obviously Kesler's loss was a big one but we've got some guys who can still score 15-20 goals which is all we really need. This is assuming that Kassian, Daniel and Jensen all have big 20-goal seasons which is really what the year is resting on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackknife Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 not to be trolling in my first post, but is this all you think about all day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beluga Whale Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 lolol "Archibald = 0G", why even put that there? I think Burr can do better than that, and Kassian getting 26 is a bit of a reach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gross-Misconduct Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 1069 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksSayEh Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Ill do the top dogs, in order.Kassian - 22Burrows - 19Daniel - 18Bones - 17Higgins - 16Hank - 15Hansen - 14Matthias - 13Richardson 12(lol pretty much 1 in a descending order)Jensen - 15+ pace if he plays at least 40 games.These guesses could all change if we make roster changes, just how I see it folding out with the current/assumed lineup. Still think Kassian leads the team, and is the only one who will break 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DownUndaCanuck Posted July 2, 2014 Author Share Posted July 2, 2014 not to be trolling in my first post, but is this all you think about all day? No, every now and then I take a break and think about your mum. Need something to jack my knife to ya know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roflcawptur Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 No, every now and then I take a break and think about your mum. Need something to jack my knife to ya know. Stay classy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 211 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 No, every now and then I take a break and think about your mum. Need something to jack my knife to ya know. Do you touch your keyboard with those hands? Eww......... Otherwise, I'd say you're almost correct in your estimation as the team currently sits, and assuming that guys who had an off year last season bounce back this season. I figure Burrows for a few more than you pegged him at, Possibly they could be as high as 240(ish). regards, G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANUCK-EXPRESS Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 I wish I had a time machine so I can tell you how many goals were going to score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksSayEh Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Wouldn't get too hopeful about numerous 20g campaigns. We are coming off a year where only 1 player hit that mark, no one else was really close. Bonino did crack 20 as well, still, that leaves 1 player on the roster coming off a 20+ season. I would be pretty surprised if more than 2 players hit 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surtur Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Obviously we're not going to be contending for a while, but the Canucks should look to make the playoffs at least to build a winning culture for these kids to come into, similar to how the Avs and Wild are slowly growing as contending teams. To do that, we need to score goals, and after losing Kesler and Garrison, while not really grabbing any of the top-end UFA forwards, where are our goals going to come from? So far here's our opening night roster: Sedin - Sedin - Jensen Kassian - Bonino - Higgins Hansen - Matthias - Burrows Horvat - Richardson - Dorsett Shinkaruk - Vey - Archibald (injury replacements) Edler - Tanev Hamhuis - Bieksa Sbisa - Corrado Stanton/Weber These are fairly realistic estimates based on age and how well the player did last season. What do you guys think? Daniel = 24G (on the down-swing but Torts destroyed the twins production) Henrik = 13G Jensen = 16G (very optimistic but if he's a mainstay the Sedins will make him a scorer) Kassian = 26G (will get some Sedin time, had 14G last season thrown all around the roster) Bonino = 20G (going to get bigger minutes than the 2nd/3rd line center role last year where he scored 22) Higgins = 16G (getting older, not going to score at a 20 goal pace anymore) Hansen = 15G (pretty consistent 3rd liner, may break-out but probably won't) Matthias = 16G (deserves the 3C spot and showed he was better later in the season) Burrows = 12G (getting older and looked horrible last season, as well as at the world cup) Horvat = 6G (will be in and out of the lineup) Richardson = 8G (should be our staple 4C all season) Dorsett = 7G Shinkaruk = 6G (in about 30 games, should get lots of injury replacement time) Vey = 4G (in about 20 games, he's proven he can produce in the NHL already) Archibald = 0G Forwards total = 189 goals Edler = 8G (might score 40 points if he's lucky to bounce back, but will get lots of PP time with Garrison gone) Hamhuis = 6G Bieksa = 6G Tanev = 7G (showed some promise last season offensively, will get PP time with Garrison's loss) Corrado = 4G (has a heavy shot, showed he can score too) Sbisa = 3G Stanton = 1G Weber = 3G Defensemen totals = 38 goals Total = 227 goals Now considering the Kings, Wild, Red Wings, Rangers and Canadiens all scored less than 227 goals last year but were for the most part the most successful playoff teams, these Canucks aren't too far off. Obviously Kesler's loss was a big one but we've got some guys who can still score 15-20 goals which is all we really need. This is assuming that Kassian, Daniel and Jensen all have big 20-goal seasons which is really what the year is resting on. Edit.. It posted the quote before I could add my reply... Lol stupid phone. Top line will bounce back and I don't think Jensen will be in it. Kassian will have a huge year. 20 goals 40+ assists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure to Mogilny Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Obviously we're not going to be contending for a while, but the Canucks should look to make the playoffs at least to build a winning culture for these kids to come into, similar to how the Avs and Wild are slowly growing as contending teams. To do that, we need to score goals, and after losing Kesler and Garrison, while not really grabbing any of the top-end UFA forwards, where are our goals going to come from? So far here's our opening night roster: Sedin - Sedin - Jensen Kassian - Bonino - Higgins Hansen - Matthias - Burrows Horvat - Richardson - Dorsett Shinkaruk - Vey - Archibald (injury replacements) Edler - Tanev Hamhuis - Bieksa Sbisa - Corrado Stanton/Weber These are fairly realistic estimates based on age and how well the player did last season. What do you guys think? Daniel = 24G (on the down-swing but Torts destroyed the twins production) Henrik = 13G Jensen = 16G (very optimistic but if he's a mainstay the Sedins will make him a scorer) Kassian = 26G (will get some Sedin time, had 14G last season thrown all around the roster) Bonino = 20G (going to get bigger minutes than the 2nd/3rd line center role last year where he scored 22) Higgins = 16G (getting older, not going to score at a 20 goal pace anymore) Hansen = 15G (pretty consistent 3rd liner, may break-out but probably won't) Matthias = 16G (deserves the 3C spot and showed he was better later in the season) Burrows = 12G (getting older and looked horrible last season, as well as at the world cup) Horvat = 6G (will be in and out of the lineup) Richardson = 8G (should be our staple 4C all season) Dorsett = 7G Shinkaruk = 6G (in about 30 games, should get lots of injury replacement time) Vey = 4G (in about 20 games, he's proven he can produce in the NHL already) Archibald = 0G Forwards total = 189 goals Edler = 8G (might score 40 points if he's lucky to bounce back, but will get lots of PP time with Garrison gone) Hamhuis = 6G Bieksa = 6G Tanev = 7G (showed some promise last season offensively, will get PP time with Garrison's loss) Corrado = 4G (has a heavy shot, showed he can score too) Sbisa = 3G Stanton = 1G Weber = 3G Defensemen totals = 38 goals Total = 227 goals Now considering the Kings, Wild, Red Wings, Rangers and Canadiens all scored less than 227 goals last year but were for the most part the most successful playoff teams, these Canucks aren't too far off. Obviously Kesler's loss was a big one but we've got some guys who can still score 15-20 goals which is all we really need. This is assuming that Kassian, Daniel and Jensen all have big 20-goal seasons which is really what the year is resting on. Heres a better prediction Daniel 31 Henrik 13 Jensen 26 Kassian 21 Boneno 22 Vey 17 Matthias 13 Hhansen or Higgins 15 the other will be traded Burrows 16 Horvat 16 Richardson 9 Doorset 6 Sesito 3 Edler 10 Hamuis 10 Bieksa 9 Tanev Stanton 7 Sbisa 4 Corrodo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Barzal Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 With a coach that knows how to run an offensive system and a healthy roster I think our numbers improve. Danny - 28 Burrows - 24 Kassian - 18 Bonino - 17 Hansen - 18 Henrik - 12 Higgins - 15 Matthias - 13 Edler - 13 Bieksa - 7 Hamhuis - 4 Tanev - 4 Sbisa - 3 Stanton - 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IginlaFan 2013 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Ultimately i think it will be our goals against that will define how good we are, but i think we will have some good surprises from our forwards and how much they score, Burrows was injured 75% of last season (not exactly sure of his status now) but i think he will bring the biggest surprise if he stays healthy this season. But im not going to expect much from the defence unless we get at least 2 defensemen that can score at least 10-15 goals. Im hoping that the nucks defence can surprise me and step up in the goals forward department Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCanuck_12 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 I really think there are too many "IF" factors to get an idea of how many goals we are going to score. Kesler was our only 20+ goal scorer last year, and he's out. But there is potential already with the players on our roster for multiple 20+ goal players. Just too many question marks. Kassian: IF he can break out and gets the opportunity to use his skill set instead of having to play the grinder role. Daniel: IF he can regain the scoring touch he has had in previous years, but he's not getting any younger. Burrows: after last season, everything is up in the air with him. Who knows how many he'll be able to put up. Higgins: doubtful, but other off-season moves might see him with some new linemates. You never know. Bonino: could put up 20+. Depends on whether or not he keeps trending upwards, or if last year was a one-off Less realisticaly: Jensen: as much as I'd love a 20+ goal year out of him, I just don't see it happening. Would love to be proved wrong. This is where signing a player like Radim Vrbata could be really useful. The guy has basically been a lock for around 20 goals a year over his last 5 signings. Would be a nice short-term fix to give us a boost in goal scoring. Also, it will be curious to see if the Sedins will produce more with less ice time this year. In my opinion, they were over-worked last season. I think their numbers will be better this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surtur Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 With a coach that knows how to run an offensive system and a healthy roster I think our numbers improve. Danny - 28 Burrows - 24 Kassian - 18 Bonino - 17 Hansen - 18 Henrik - 12 Higgins - 15 Matthias - 13 Edler - 13 Bieksa - 7 Hamhuis - 4 Tanev - 4 Sbisa - 3 Stanton - 2that doesn't seem like a huge improvement other then burrows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksSayEh Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 that doesn't seem like a huge improvement other then burrows?28 for post concussion Daniel is a massive improvement. Think his average is like 17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Fig Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 not to be trolling in my first post, but is this all you think about all day?Welcome! And congratulations! You're already in the top 10% of posters here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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