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Left Side

- Hamhuis

- Edler

- Sbisa

- Stanton

Right Side

- Bieksa

- Tanev

- Corrado/Weber/Sanguinetti

If Del Zotto was RH then yes. But he isn't, so no.

Defensive defenseman

Hamhuis

Tanev

Sbisa

Stanton

Corrado

Defenseman that can QB a powerplay

Edler

Weber

I would say we could use him. Especially if Edler doesn't regain his form on the powerplay.

Weber also isn't a full time NHLer IMO.

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Having too many D-men for the start of camp can't be a bad thing. They can always make a trade for a pick or forward with their surplus. I can't see the 6th or 7th depth d-man on the Canucks being a sure lock at this stage of the offseason. Give the guy a shot and see what happens. I'd take a chance on Del Zotto over a Y.Weber any day. Low risk high reward if it works out IMO.

PS. Cheers Elvis15 and thanks for the heads up and info.

That's alright if you don't have any prospect depth or if you can send some players down without losing them, but we already have a full roster and anyone pushing for a spot that deserves to make it will already give us hard decisions.

Left side available depth:

Hamhuis

Edler

Sbisa

Stanton

Tommernes

Andersson (can play right side though)

McEneny

Del Zotto would be ahead of the last three for sure, but with potentially four others ahead of him (at least 2-3) the best Del Zotto could do is 3rd pairing D. And if he did make it it'd mean one of Sbisa or more likely Stanton pushed out of the NHL roster and lost to waivers.

The right side isn't much better for Del Zotto, assuming he could switch to his opposite side:

Tanev

Bieksa

Weber

Sanguinetti

Corrado

Biega

Maybe he beats out everyone below Tanev and Bieksa, but there's certainly already plenty of competition and one of Weber or Sanguinetti (or maybe both) plus Corrado is likely to make it at this point. No guarantees Del Zotto could beat out any of them for a spot considering his recent play, particularly if he has to switch to an unfamiliar side.

EDIT: no problem and glad I could help. CDC's a better place when people try and get better at posting. The side stuff's been removed now, but if you ever have a question send me a PM.

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IMO, we're better served with having a few bruisers signed to be our depth d-men. We need a few heavyweights that can chuck the knuckles and move the trash out from front of the crease. IMO, our defence is still too undersized to deal with the big forwards of the Western Conference. So, I don't think Del Zotto is the answer. We haven't had a real bruiser since O'Brien, and he became soft as a marshmallow after a couple of years with us.

Hamhuis - Bieksa

Edler - Tanev

Sbisa - Stanton

Weber

That backend does not instill any form of fear in opposing forwards...watch Miller get run over all season and watch him flip out because the defence won't be protecting him.

Better option is to go after Adam McQuaid ($1.6M) and/or Johnny Boychuk ($3.4M). We've got the cap space and we need their size and truculence. We've got $1.4M...shed Stanton, Weber, and Markstrom we've got $3.7M. Find $1.3M to shed, and we can take on both McQuaid and Boychuk.

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Corrado is definitely not a sure thing to make the roster. Letting him develop another year in the AHL might be what's best for him. He is still only 21 after all.

And Weber is a fringe NHLer at this point IMO. He should not be penciled in to the roster yet.

Hamhuis Bieksa

Edler Tanev

Sbisa Del Zotto/Stanton

Weber

Injuries will hit this season like they always do. It never hurts to have guys that can step in and move up the lineup if they have to.

Worst case scenario, Del Zotto doesn't impress at camp, or is beaten out by Corrado, and is put on waivers. No loss, no gain.

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I might be more inclined to pencil in Weber on his natural side than I would to do so with Del Zotto on his opposite side. Has he ever played his off side (apart from on the PP) and would he be able to do so regularly? Would he have to be sheltered significantly at 5 on 5, or would he be a specialist?

People thought Weber should be used that way last year, but he ended up getting used in a more regular role last year as he came on later in the season. I think he gets the shot and has competition already from Sanguinetti (who's a long shot, but has skill) and Corrado, who's already earning his chance and can prove he deserves it with a good camp.

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IMO, we're better served with having a few bruisers signed to be our depth d-men. We need a few heavyweights that can chuck the knuckles and move the trash out from front of the crease. IMO, our defence is still too undersized to deal with the big forwards of the Western Conference. So, I don't think Del Zotto is the answer. We haven't had a real bruiser since O'Brien, and he became soft as a marshmallow after a couple of years with us.

Hamhuis - Bieksa

Edler - Tanev

Sbisa - Stanton

Weber

That backend does not instill any form of fear in opposing forwards...watch Miller get run over all season and watch him flip out because the defence won't be protecting him.

Better option is to go after Adam McQuaid ($1.6M) and/or Johnny Boychuk ($3.4M). We've got the cap space and we need their size and truculence. We've got $1.4M...shed Stanton, Weber, and Markstrom we've got $3.7M. Find $1.3M to shed, and we can take on both McQuaid and Boychuk.

Then why have Weber on the roster, when Del Zotto basically brings the same thing but actually hits? He was also one of the top shot blockers for the Rangers too.

If there's a way to improve the lineup, it should be done. Del Zotto is definitely an improvement over Weber.

Hamhuis Tanev

Edler Sbisa

McQuaid Bieksa

Stanton Del Zotto

That lineup brings way more jam and offensive ability than one with Weber in it IMO.

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Del Zotto is not going to replace Edler or Hamhuis, which would put him as a 3rd pairing defenseman.
The 3rd and 4th pairings should be dependable and hard to play against. That is NOT his game.

He is going to want somewhere in the ballpark of 2.5 - 3 million and is not worth that kind of $$ as a

3rd pairing Dman

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Del Zotto is not going to replace Edler or Hamhuis, which would put him as a 3rd pairing defenseman.

The 3rd and 4th pairings should be dependable and hard to play against. That is NOT his game.

Shouldn't every pairing be dependable and hard to play against?

IMO, every pairing should have a good mix of offense and defense to go along with being physical.

Del Zotto brings much more physicality than Weber. And if paired with a solid stay at home guy like Stanton or Sbisa, could thrive again in a new system.

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Then why have Weber on the roster, when Del Zotto basically brings the same thing but actually hits? He was also one of the top shot blockers for the Rangers too.

If there's a way to improve the lineup, it should be done. Del Zotto is definitely an improvement over Weber.

Hamhuis Tanev

Edler Sbisa

McQuaid Bieksa

Stanton Del Zotto

That lineup brings way more jam and offensive ability than one with Weber in it IMO.

Was listing the d-group as it is, DeNiro. In my last paragraph, I suggested that we shed Weber, Stanton and Markstrom (either through AHL assignments or trades), if we are able to get both McQuaid and Boychuk from the Bruins.

I like the looks of your back end...except I'd split Sbisa/Edler and McQuaid/Bieksa, not sign Del Zotto.

Hamhuis/Bieksa

Edler/Tanev

Sbisa/McQuaid

Stanton/Weber or Saguinnetti

If we can get Boychuk, then the odd man out for me is Tanev, who I would then try to move in a trade.

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He wouldn't be a bad reclamation project

Hamhuis - Tanev

Edler - Del Zotto

Sbisa - Bieksa

I really think Edler thrives when he plays with an OFD. Just look at how he played with Karlsson at the Olympics and with Ehrhoff when he was here. That pair could be a big time boom/bust project IMO.

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Was listing the d-group as it is, DeNiro. In my last paragraph, I suggested that we shed Weber, Stanton and Markstrom (either through AHL assignments or trades), if we are able to get both McQuaid and Boychuk from the Bruins.

I like the looks of your back end...except I'd split Sbisa/Edler and McQuaid/Bieksa, not sign Del Zotto.

Hamhuis/Bieksa

Edler/Tanev

Sbisa/McQuaid

Stanton/Weber or Saguinnetti

If we can get Boychuk, then the odd man out for me is Tanev, who I would then try to move in a trade.

Well my main point was that Del Zotto is better than Weber, so why not upgrade?

Having Stanton and Del Zotto as extras would give this team crazy depth. Del Zotto could actually step into the top 4 if injuries strike. Weber on the other hand, not so much.

If we could get him on a 1 year - 1 mil deal I think he would be motivated to prove his doubters wrong.

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No thanks. We have Eder, Beiska , Tanev , Hamhuis , Stanton , Weber and Sbisa. Then we would have to get rid of 2. Stanton and weber? We don't need him. Just sign our rookies and then were done.

Why would we have to get rid of two?

We're more than likely carrying 8 D-men come opening night.

Hamhuis

Tanev

Edler

Bieksa

Sbisa

Stanton

Del Zotto

That's only 7 defenseman.

So we could either send Corrado to Utica to play another season, or put Weber on waivers. Weber would likely clear since I don't think he'd be in huge demand.

Or even trade for another defenseman to fill out the bottom pair. That would give us 8 defenseman, plus we would have Corrado, Weber, and Sanguenetti in Utica. That's the kind of depth it takes to survive a full season of injuries.

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Once Hamhuis and Bieksa move on the Canucks aren't going to have much talent on the blueline. We'll have Edler (former 49 point guy) and Tanev (hasn't produced much offence yet in his career) eating up big minutes while Sbisa (24, still not much of a point producer) and Corrado (scored 1 NHL goal) could easily round out our future top-4. There isn't a whole lot of offence from those 4, with 3 of them being shutdown-type players.

We could defniately use a puck mover like Del Zotto in the mix. The main reason he had a shocking season last year was playing behind big names like Girardi/Staal and then going to an even more stacked defence (and worse team) in Nashville, both of whoms systems didn't produce much offence so either did he.

The Canucks should definately look to sign him up to a 3-year deal, maybe 1 or 2M per year if we can get him that cheap and see what happens. After 3 years, we re-evaluate this team once Vbrata, Miller and Del Zotto's contracts are up. He'll be 27 and most likely hitting his prime by then too.

Signing Del Zotto gives us the more important option of trading one of our many left defencemen like Stanton, Sbisa or Hamhuis in a package with say Markstrom, a pick and a current roster forward like Hansen/Higgins/Burrows for something we really need in this team - a future #1 center.

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IMO: It would be no risk (with possible high reward) to have Weber, Corrado, Stanton, and Del Zotto battle it out at training camp to make this club. Del Zotto has alot to prove and Vancouver would be the perfect setting and opportunity for him to earn a roster spot...and possibly develop as a contributing Canuck OFD for years to come.

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I heard some commentator mention most of Del Zotto's problems are between his ears... attitude. TO is having the same problem with Gardener.... some of these guy have grown up thinking they can walk on water

Like alot of young players....and some young people in general.

The good thing is that there is time and hope for them to turn things around when given the right opportunities and menors/teachers.

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I heard some commentator mention most of Del Zotto's problems are between his ears... attitude. TO is having the same problem with Gardener.... some of these guy have grown up thinking they can walk on water

Maybe the experience of not having anyone sign him is humbling.

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