canuktravella Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 say vey, jensen, fox, shinkaruk, gaunce, kenins, horvat out perform our vets 3-4 stay up 3 play in utica sedin sedin vrbata 1st lines set in stone 21mins kassian bonino shinkaruk 13mins higgins horvat vey 13mins mattias gaunce dorsett big mean 4th line that could play 13mins search and destroy line roll bottom 3 lines evenly jensen fox kenins help develope in utica hansen and burrows would be press boxed until they waive ntc pretty sure theyd waive real quick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 So you think jensen needs more development yet you have shinkaruk on the 2nd line... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckMan10 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicklas Bo Hunter Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Sedin Sedin Vrbata Jensen Bonino Kassian Higgins Matthias Burrows Richardson Vey Dorsett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euphoria/ Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Doubt any rookies will make it. Jensen is the only one i see having a significant chance. Sedin-Sedin-Vrbata Burrows-Bonino-Jensen Higgins-Vey-Kassian Matthias-Richardson-Hansen Dorsett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerEpic5 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Sedin Sedin Vrbata Jensen Bonino Kassian Higgins Matthias Burrows Richardson Vey Dorsett This ^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancouver FTW :D Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 All i want for christmas is an all-canuck line at world juniors :D Mcann-Horvat-Virtanen Gold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted July 21, 2014 Author Share Posted July 21, 2014 So you think jensen needs more development yet you have shinkaruk on the 2nd line.... not that i dont like jensen but shinkaruk almost stole a spot last yr on one hip dirty dangles and snipes against lunquist i see shinkaruk as a future 1st line winger more upside than jensen but i could be wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicklas Bo Hunter Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 ^ Shinkaruk didn't almost steal a spot. He got two goals but management even said he had a ways to go. a full game is missing from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piggy Bank Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Why dont we do this: Every line plays 15 Jensen Henrik Kassian Shinkaruk Bonino Higgins Burrows Horvat Daniel Hansen Richardson Dorsett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiznac Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 All i want for christmas is an all-canuck line at world juniors :D Mcann-Horvat-Virtanen Gold Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I would like to gamble on a rook it would be on the 4th line our top 9 are set unless we trade a vet (Hansen/Burr) I would gamble on Fox at centre on the 4th as he has less to lose development wise than Gaunce, Horvat, or Jensen. Jensen should have an opportunity but he's not a centreman. I would like to gamble on Gaunce but he lacks the scoring touch of a Fox type. Plus Fox plays with an edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanTSN Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 If we're playing the Sedins-Vrbata line 21 mins a game, we're in trouble. But the rooks aren't going to be able to play a ton of mins per right out the gate either. We need to be patient through the rebuild process. Reasonable icetime expectations for the forwards if they are to remain competitive throughout the season: H. Sedin: 16-17 mins per game D. Sedin: 15-16 mins per game Vrbata: 15-16 mins per game Burrows: 15-16 mins per game Higgins: 14-15 mins per game Bonino: 13-14 mins per game Kassian: 13-14 mins per game Richardson: 12-13 mins per game Matthias: 12-13 mins per game Hansen: 12-13 mins per game Jensen: 10-11 mins per game Dorsett: 7-8 mins per game Vey: 7-8 mins per game Sestito: 4-5 mins per game The forwards will be able to play around 51 minutes of competitive hockey per game this season. There will be a lot of times when the team looks flat on the forecheck, backcheck, etc. Overplaying scoring-role players will lead to injuries. Similar to last season, but amplified with the loss of Kesler, who could play 18-19 effective minutes per game in a key shutdown and pk role. Reasonable icetime expectations for the defensemen if they are to remain competitive throughout the season: Hamhuis: 20-21 mins per game Edler: 20-21 mins per game Bieksa: 20-21 mins per game Tanev: 19-20 mins per game Sbisa: 12-13 mins per game Stanton: 11-12 mins per game Weber: 8-9 mins per game Corrado: 7-8 mins per game The defense will be able to play around 49 minutes of competitive hockey per game this season. There will be a lot of times when they are standing still, waiting for the play to unfold, letting Miller/Lack make a save, etc. Turnovers, icings and the like will be a constant theme for when the team starts getting exhausted. Similar to last year, but amplified due to the loss of Garrison, who could play 20-21 effective minutes per game including a key power play howitzer role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William_Clarkson Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 say vey, jensen, fox, shinkaruk, gaunce, kenins, horvat out perform our vets 3-4 stay up 3 play in utica sedin sedin vrbata 1st lines set in stone 21mins kassian bonino shinkaruk 13mins higgins horvat vey 13mins mattias gaunce dorsett big mean 4th line that could play 13mins search and destroy line roll bottom 3 lines evenly jensen fox kenins help develope in utica hansen and burrows would be press boxed until they waive ntc pretty sure theyd waive real quick I'll ignore Kennis and Fox since they'll be in Utica for sure. I would want: Sedin-Sedin-Vrbata Jensen (or Shinkaruk)-Vey-Kassian Burrows-Bonino-Horvat (or Gaunce) Matthias-Richardson-Dorsett Sestito Burrows will need to be the leader of the bottom 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustABandwagoner Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Doubt any rookies will make it. Jensen is the only one i see having a significant chance. Sedin-Sedin-Vrbata Burrows-Bonino-Jensen Higgins-Vey-Kassian Matthias-Richardson-Hansen Dorsett Sedin Sedin Vrbata Kassian Bonino Jensen Higgins Vey Burrows Matthias-Richardson- Dorsett Dump Hansen somehow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asian player Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Horvat- I honestly think he's ready but he'll have to fight for a roster spot so it'll be tough. If he gets sent back down to London, he'll be in the big club the year after. Jensen- showed signs of brilliance in the few games he played last season. If he can show some defensive awareness and consistency, he should play in the NHL next season. However, a year in the AHL with big minutes could do wonders for him Vey- definitely ready. Baked to perfection by LA and is served to us. He'll be serviceable this upcoming season. Corrado- definitely ready to play in the NHL but it looks like the final spot will go to Stanton and since Stanton can't go to the AHL, looks like Corrado will take another year in the AHL. He's a complete player with solid offensive upside, hopefully he can bring it out. Gaunce- there's no doubt he's eager to play in the NHL but he should play a full season in the AHL. Maybe even 2 seasons. We have a plethora of centers and there's no rush for him. There are still areas he can improve on. Shinkaruk- he definitely has NHL-level skill and speed but he needs to work on his cardio and he can get stronger. One year in the AHL with a couple call-ups and he'll be ready Virtanen- the injured shoulder will take time so he won't be ready for a couple years. He'll have a much bigger role for the Hitmen so he'll improve on some of the weaker areas of his game. He was one of the younger draft eligibles so 2 years in the WHL will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Shinkaruk was the last player cut from camp last year so I honestly could see him make the team next season. He's a winger with little defensive responsibilities, and an NHL-ready shot and skating. Jensen and Kassian will be expected to be regulars in the lineup next season and rightfully so, but I hope they get top-6 minutes and play more important roles as they develop into key players for our future core. I believe Horvat and Gaunce are still ways off. They were both slow last training camp and despite losing some weight, both of them are centers and need to develop more than wingers. If they can play wing that's great, they may get a shot at a bottom-6 wing position but they're well behind the development of Vey (point per game in the AHL, he's NHL ready), Matthias and Richardson. As for Dane Fox, yes he lit it up but he's an overager and this sort of success has happened before. He's comparable to Chad LaRose who also scored a tonne of goals, but was the only one who made an NHL impact from the similar mould. I expect him to make 4th line wing at best. This is the most rookies our team will realistically have in the fold next season: Sedin - Sedin - Vbrata Kassian - Bonino - Higgins (Chris Higgins is still a 15-20 goal scorer and won't be out-competed by rookies yet) Hansen - Matthias - Jensen (Hansen is still good for around 15 goals and like Higgins, won't lose his spot to a kid) Shinkaruk - Richardson - Vey I just don't see Hansen losing his roster spot, as he's a solid PK player and the prototypical 3rd liner who consistently produces 10-15 goals every single season. He may break-out, he may not but he's always good for his money and minutes. Higgins is very similar, but Burrows will most likely become the new Booth and lose his roster spot to a bunch of kids who deserve the minutes more than he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octapi Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Agreed that would have us Canuck fans glued to the World Jr's! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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