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The Associated Press
Published Friday, July 25, 2014 7:02AM EDT
Last Updated Friday, July 25, 2014 9:40PM EDT

LONG BEACH, Calif. -- Prosecutors were waiting Friday for the results of a police investigation into the killing of a burglar by an 80-year-old homeowner who says he shot the woman in the back as she fled his home and ran down an alley, the district attorney's office said.

Long Beach resident Tom Greer, 80, told KNBC-TV that the burglar had said she was pregnant and asked Greer not to fire but he shot her twice in the back anyway.

An autopsy later found that Andrea Miller, 28, was not pregnant, said Ed Winter, coroner's spokesman.

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Tom Greer speaks to a reporter about being the victim of a home invasion and shooting one of the two suspects.

"Long Beach police are still investigating," said Sarah Ardalani, spokeswoman for the Los Angeles County District Attorney's Office. "It's ongoing and so we're waiting at this point."

Prosecutors filed murder, burglary, robbery and weapons-related charges against 26-year-old Gus Adams, a suspected accomplice of Miller. He was being held on bail of more than $1 million.

A court appearance initially set for Friday was rescheduled for next month.

The murder charge is possible because Adams is accused of participating in a felony that led to a death, said police Chief Jim McDonnell.

Police said Friday that Adams' mother, Ruby Adams, also was involved, and she was arrested Thursday night on suspicion of robbery. They gave no details on her alleged role or the evidence against her.

McDonnell said the homeowner came home around 9 p.m. Tuesday and surprised Adams and Miller, who were trying to break into a safe. They assaulted him, breaking his collarbone, before he was able to get a handgun, the chief said.

Police said he fired shots inside and outside his house.

Under California law, homeowners have a right to protect themselves with deadly force inside their homes and in the immediate vicinity -- such as a patio -- if they feel they are in imminent danger of great bodily injury or death, said Lawrence Rosenthal, a former federal prosecutor who teaches law at Chapman University.

But this case enters a grey area because Greer, by his own account, chased the burglars and fired at them outside his home as they were fleeing, Rosenthal said.

"The problem here is that all this happens very fast and his legal right to use force probably ended just a few seconds before he did use deadly force," Rosenthal said. "So the question is should you charge somebody on the basis of what really was a series of split-second decisions when he's just been robbed and physically assaulted?"

McDonnell declined to say how many shots were fired or to confirm that Miller was shot in the back.

No phone listing was available for Greer and he could not be reached for comment by The Associated Press.

Read more: http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/california-man-80-guns-down-pregnant-home-intruder-i-shot-her-twice-1.1931344#ixzz38ho8Ku6d

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lol I'm just supposed to believe you're pregnant? Not just some fatty stealing to get a fix of McDonalds/Crack?

How do I know you weren't just carrying a pillow with a gun under it?

Even if he's found guilty he's 80. He won't spend a day in prison

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So the question is should you charge somebody on the basis of what really was a series of split-second decisions when he's just been robbed and physically assaulted?"

The fact that this question is even asked with any seriousness, tells you all you need to know about the state of "justice" in our society.

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Haha I break into people's homes and walk around backwards stealing stuff and if they lay a hand on me I sue them. I profit either way

I would love for you to try that with me. After I'm done with you, you would be no more!

On all seriousness we do have the power to arrest and use force if someone commits crime around our property, without fear of losing a lawsuit. The key is that the force be reasonable

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Not that I have a problem with criminals being shot, but something tells me he's gonna be in trouble for shooting someone while she was already fleeing (although I didn't read the story... I will when I have time).

Lol, you don't have time but you're reading off topic CDC threads? :lol:

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shooting someone for self defense is one thing.. Shooting a fleeing target is another.

But hey, this is America, so anything could happen there.

Beyond that, she had indicated surrender when the old man pulled the trigger. The old man was technically out of imminent danger by then, so this could end up as some sort of revenge killing.

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