Piggy Bank Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 As our Canucks enter a new era we can see many elite prospects competing for jobs whether it be from start of training camp, or through the season coming up for injuries and having no reason to be sent back. Hunter Shinkaruk: - Skill very noticeable and effective in his first 6 pre-season games of the NHL last season. 2 goals in 6 games, at a consistent pace, he would have achieved 27 goals. At least. - After nearly making the team, he lost a season of development to hip surgery. He nearly made the WJ team though on one hip haha. He is looking excellent again at camp, and if he can grow in the A this year, I say he would be ready for our team half way through the season. Bo Horvat: - Drafted 9th Overall in a exceptional draft, some would argue he should be ready. Another year in the O won't do him as much good as the AHL, but unfortunately he isn't elgibile yet. - At 6 foot, 205 or so, he is a Bull. Capable of handling his own, and could be very sturdy 3C next year if he is ready. His offensive stats greatly increased from last season. Dane Fox: - Virtually a goal a game player in the O. Will be in the A next year. Signed as an over ager. Great size speed and shot. Looked excellent at rookie camp. Brendan Gaunce: - Likely to start as 1 or 2 C next year in the AHL, i say 2C. Many feel he could be ready. But chances are they would send him to the A anyway. Nicklas Jensen: - Very NHL ready, but could always develop more in the A. No need to rush. - Nobody has a clue where management will send this 6'3 dane. He looks ready but, if he 'isnt' will help teach our prospects about the A. and will be ready by the end of the season. BP AHL lineup Jensen Vey Shinkaruk Fox Gaunce Grenier Archi Lain Zaleswki - If so many guys are ready by the deadline, we could move players like Higgins, Hansen, etc to make room for our young players. Next year we could go so oyung. Sedin's Vrbata Shink Bonino Jensen Burr Vey Horvat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Fox, Gaunce and Jensen are not really "elite" prospects, depending on your definition of elite. I think aside from Jensen I would have all of Shinkaruk, Fox and Gaunce spend the full year in the AHL. There is no need to rush things, I think injuries might bring one or two of them in the lineup eventually anyway. For all of those guys its their first year as a pro so give it some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILL BILL NECRO Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Hunter Shinkaruk scores 2 goals in 6 PRE-SEASON games and you have him slotted to be a 30 goal scorer in the NHL last year? Stop reading after that sorry.... No dice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggs50 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 There is no logjam. Let the kids develop. I hope they push for spots but ultimately I'd rather they develop. If a propsect is ready, JB will make room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerEpic5 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 What's the rush ? Let them fully develop. This is another way to stunt prospects growth. Not allowing them to fully develop.. When there time comes, then it'll all be figured out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossi Vaananen Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 They'll all make it over a couple years, slowly forcing vets out, until the Sedins themselves retire. Realistically in the next 1-2 I'd say we're looking at Corrado, Jensen and Horvat making it. In 2-3 years Gaunce, Shinkaruk (could go earlier), and Virtanen. McCann and Demko probably 4 years out. Wild cards in Fox, Tryamkin, Hutton, and Cassels. Everyone of these players (with the exception of Corrado/Jensen) has to at least prove they can play pro level hockey in the AHL. Regardless, it's never a bad thing to have good prospects and plenty of them. At worst they're an asset similar to what Vey was to LA, or how Anaheim could move 2 roster players and a pick due to their asset depth. Anyways, roll the dice on these kids and develop them properly and maybe 75% of them will be real NHLers. Added to this is the new culture Benning and company created over prospects camp, a genuine bonding between future teamates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex425 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Jensen. Vey won't be in the AHL. Benning said he's ready and he wouldn't waive to go to the AHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whale Tail Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Isn't Tryamkin kind of playing in pro league? Isn't KHL a similiar level to AHL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweathog Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 No offense to the other players, but gotta say Jensen. He has had the most seasoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Shinkaruk was fantastic and the last player cut from last pre-season, so I expect him to make a BIG push for the big league. He's a winger who doesn't have as many responsibilities as Horvat at center too. Horvat and Gaunce were quite slow last season and this training camp too, whereas Vey had 5 NHL points in 18 games and a point per game at the AHL. He's further along in development compared to anyone else. Jensen had a few NHL goals and points and may be just as ready as Vey. Fox scored a lot but was an over-ager so I believe his ceiling is a 3rd line winger and probably won't make the NHL jump over Jensen or Vey. Matthias is far more proven, stronger and NHL ready than Vey, Horvat or Gaunce. Based on that, I expect us to start this lineup: Sedin - Sedin - Vbrata Kassian - Bonino - Higgins Hansen - Matthias - Jensen Vey - Richardson - Burrows However I'd like to see us try this: Sedin - Sedin - Kassian Vbrata - Bonino - Shinkaruk Higgins - Matthias - Jensen Hansen - Richardson - Vey Youth mentored by veterans on every line. Skill and size on every line. Perfect complementary players on ever line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5Fivehole0 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Shinkaruk was fantastic and the last player cut from last pre-season, so I expect him to make a BIG push for the big league. He's a winger who doesn't have as many responsibilities as Horvat at center too. Horvat and Gaunce were quite slow last season and this training camp too, whereas Vey had 5 NHL points in 18 games and a point per game at the AHL. He's further along in development compared to anyone else. Jensen had a few NHL goals and points and may be just as ready as Vey. Fox scored a lot but was an over-ager so I believe his ceiling is a 3rd line winger and probably won't make the NHL jump over Jensen or Vey. Matthias is far more proven, stronger and NHL ready than Vey, Horvat or Gaunce. Based on that, I expect us to start this lineup: Sedin - Sedin - Vbrata Kassian - Bonino - Higgins Hansen - Matthias - Jensen Vey - Richardson - Burrows However I'd like to see us try this: Sedin - Sedin - Kassian Vbrata - Bonino - Shinkaruk Higgins - Matthias - Jensen Hansen - Richardson - Vey Youth mentored by veterans on every line. Skill and size on every line. Perfect complementary players on ever line. No offence but your lines are all garbage... Yes it does matter if a winger is on his natural wing.. Your 1st line up Sedin Sedin Vrbata Higgins Bonino Kassian Hansen Matthias Jensen works but Jensen is probably top 6 or Ahl Vey Richardson Burrows.... How the hell is Jensen, Hansen, Matthias, and Kassian above Burrows on depth.... one bad season does not equate to garbage... Bandwagons drive me bonkers Sedin Sedin Kassian, I want this to work on ice Shinkaruk Bonino Vrbata, a defensive mess waiting to happen Higgins Matthias Jensen, Jensen is top 6 or AHL Hansen Richardson vey.... Where is Dorsett and why do you dislike vey?? Also does Burrows disappear. If you want McDavid, ice any of this two lines... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Shinkaruk was fantastic and the last player cut from last pre-season, so I expect him to make a BIG push for the big league. He's a winger who doesn't have as many responsibilities as Horvat at center too. Horvat and Gaunce were quite slow last season and this training camp too, whereas Vey had 5 NHL points in 18 games and a point per game at the AHL. He's further along in development compared to anyone else. Jensen had a few NHL goals and points and may be just as ready as Vey. Fox scored a lot but was an over-ager so I believe his ceiling is a 3rd line winger and probably won't make the NHL jump over Jensen or Vey. Matthias is far more proven, stronger and NHL ready than Vey, Horvat or Gaunce. Based on that, I expect us to start this lineup: Sedin - Sedin - VbrataKassian - Bonino - HigginsHansen - Matthias - JensenVey - Richardson - Burrows However I'd like to see us try this: Sedin - Sedin - KassianVbrata - Bonino - ShinkarukHiggins - Matthias - JensenHansen - Richardson - Vey Youth mentored by veterans on every line. Skill and size on every line. Perfect complementary players on ever line.2nd line is very soft imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 The only add I see would be on the 4th line so I'd say Fox/ Grenier/ Lain as possible experiments during camp and pre-season. And if we're out of the playoff race I could see us trading vets like Burr/Hansen/Sestito for draft picks.And this would maybe make room for a rook (like Jensen/Shink/Horvat))on the 3rd line. (Richardson I'd say is untouchable because of his faceoff and pk depth) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberz21 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Horvat in between Higgins and Hansen/Burrows/Matthias will be be our prospect who'll show most improvement. By the end of the season he will have stint as the 2C and next year will challenge Bonino for the spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovi one kenobi Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 The only add I see would be on the 4th line so I'd say Fox/ Grenier/ Lain as possible experiments during camp and pre-season. And if we're out of the playoff race I could see us trading vets like Burr/Hansen/Sestito for draft picks.And this would maybe make room for a rook (like Jensen/Shink/Horvat))on the 3rd line. (Richardson I'd say is untouchable because of his faceoff and pk depth) Richardson untouchable? He is a third/fourth line centre. If a team offered a good deal I'd take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William_Clarkson Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Jensen has the best shot, but it might be better for him to start in the AHL. I hope he really shows up at camp, because the team has no real secondary offense. Horvat may also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogbyte Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 No offence but your lines are all garbage... Yes it does matter if a winger is on his natural wing.. Your 1st line up Sedin Sedin Vrbata Higgins Bonino Kassian Hansen Matthias Jensen works but Jensen is probably top 6 or Ahl Vey Richardson Burrows.... How the hell is Jensen, Hansen, Matthias, and Kassian above Burrows on depth.... one bad season does not equate to garbage... Bandwagons drive me bonkers Sedin Sedin Kassian, I want this to work on ice Shinkaruk Bonino Vrbata, a defensive mess waiting to happen Higgins Matthias Jensen, Jensen is top 6 or AHL Hansen Richardson vey.... Where is Dorsett and why do you dislike vey?? Also does Burrows disappear. If you want McDavid, ice any of this two lines... Why he continues to post line-ups when missing hockey basics like Higgins only plays LW I don't know. It's hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweathog Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Shinkaruk was fantastic and the last player cut from last pre-season, so I expect him to make a BIG push for the big league. He's a winger who doesn't have as many responsibilities as Horvat at center too. Horvat and Gaunce were quite slow last season and this training camp too, whereas Vey had 5 NHL points in 18 games and a point per game at the AHL. He's further along in development compared to anyone else. Jensen had a few NHL goals and points and may be just as ready as Vey. Fox scored a lot but was an over-ager so I believe his ceiling is a 3rd line winger and probably won't make the NHL jump over Jensen or Vey. Matthias is far more proven, stronger and NHL ready than Vey, Horvat or Gaunce. Based on that, I expect us to start this lineup: Sedin - Sedin - Vbrata Kassian - Bonino - Higgins Hansen - Matthias - Jensen Vey - Richardson - Burrows However I'd like to see us try this: Sedin - Sedin - Kassian Vbrata - Bonino - Shinkaruk Higgins - Matthias - Jensen Hansen - Richardson - Vey Youth mentored by veterans on every line. Skill and size on every line. Perfect complementary players on ever line. Except for Kassian, there is no toughness anywhere in these lineups. This won't work playing in our division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5Fivehole0 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Except for Kassian, there is no toughness anywhere in these lineups. This won't work playing in our division. Those lines don't work in any division Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrible.dee Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 2nd line is very soft imo. Ewwww, yeah that 2nd line looks awful, People keep penciling in Matthias as a key player, I don;t see it, he an average bottom 6sguy with some size thats it, Nothing on this team will be built around him, nor will he be surprising us on the score sheet this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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