Franz Liszt Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 To CLB: Cole Cassels, Nick Jensen, Jannik Hansen + VAN 2015 1st To VAN: Ryan Johansen + CLB 2015 2nd To WPG: Alex Burrows (barring he waives), Brendan Gaunce / Jared McCann, Jacob Markstrom + VAN & CLB 2015 2nds To VAN: Evander Kane & Michael Hutchinson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slappipappi Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 You'd be GM of the year if you could pull that off. Horrible value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shink Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Maybe if you took out the pick and prospect coming back to us in those trades it might be alittle closer in value but it probably still would not get them to bite. Maybe something likes this? To CLB: Cole Cassels, Nick Jensen, Jannik Hansen + Ryan Stanton + VAN 2015 1st + Van 2015 2nd To VAN: Ryan Johansen To WPG: Alex Burrows (barring he waives), Brendan Gaunce, Jacob Markstrom + VAN 1st 2016 + Van 2016 2nd To VAN: Evander Kane Then we could MAYBE just trade for a 1st or second but probably wouldn't happen. Still don't think they would bite but it is a little closer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanTSN Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 lol Make it so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCNeil Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 So now we are getting both, for 3 roster players. Burrows, Hansen and Stanton, with some prospects and picks. LMAO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Ferguson Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 alright there chief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Only way that's a fair deal for Columbus is if our 1st is top 2. Awful deals for the Jackets and Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex425 Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Only way that's a fair deal for Columbus is if our 1st is top 2. Awful deals for the Jackets and Jets. Not really, Mcdavid will be better than Johansen and Eichel will too. Johansen had less PPG in his draft year than Virtanen(WHL). And people say"Virtanen is a 3rd liner max". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Columbus is not adding a pick to that trade and we need to add one instead. Also consider adding Nick Bonino into the mix as well as they'd need a top 6 center. I think that is more than fair value for Kane though. IN all honesty with ALL of the rumours floating around right now there is no way any GM is stepping up to Chevy with an A grade deal. Think Luongo/Kesler, aint NO GM in the league offered their best for either of those two studs due to NTC and contract issues, Kane attitude and the fact he's never even broken 60 points with that attitude is a red flag for a lot of guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rounoush Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 I was always dislike the Evander Kane trade threads because we now have a player in the system who plays a very similar game in Virtanen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Elaine (Lainy) from the CBJ page (bit of a long read not sure if this was posted before) .."Some fans are willing to let Johansen go and others are not. In situations such as this one I like to show everyone both sides of the argument. “Why Johansen Should Stay” is being covered by myself. This off-season I was asked by the great guys at DKM Hockeyto put in a ballot for the “Lady Bling Award”. Johansen was my second place vote and my reasoning behind him staying on the team is the same as why he placed second. (yes, I’m doing a writer no no and recycling a post). “Why Johansen Should Go” is being covered by our newest writer, Lindsay Wilson. I like Lindsay because she’s not afraid to have an opinion that is different than others. Which is why she has graciously taken the “Why Johansen Should Go” portion of this article. Why Johansen Should Stay Statistical Relevance: During the regular season Joey led the team in points (63) and goals (33). He currently is one of three players in Blue Jackets history to score at least 30 goals in one season. Tactile Intangibles: Just like Jack Johnson, he leaves his friendships at the door. When the Jackets played in New York this season Joey got in Dorse’s face multiple times. Dorse and Joey were once roommates in Columbus. When he’s on the ice it’s about the game and friendships don’t matter. Also, he’s usually the guy that cleans up all the pucks and laughs when he drops a bucket of them at training camp. The Quintessential Man: Off the ice: The way Joey interacts with the Heroes for the Black Tie Affair makes every man and woman’s heart swoon. On the ice: Filthy dangles for days. http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=530961 Why Johansen Should Go Point 1: Johansen has only had one good year. During the 2013-14 season, he had 33 goals and 30 assists for 63 points. During the 2011-12 and 2012-13 seasons, he had a combined total (including 40 AHL games) of 31 goals and 66 assists for 94 points. He made a huge jump from one season to the next, but how does anyone know if he will be able to continue that in 2014-15? Point 2: His attitude sucks. After the 2012-2013 NHL season ended, Johansen was sent to Springfield to play for them and get more practice during their playoffs. He was scratched. During the Calder Cup Playoffs. He did not want to be there; he thought he was above playing in the AHL. He didn’t want to put in the work during the first two seasons he played. Look at his comments in this interview with Aaron Portzline: (http://bluejacketsxtra.dispatch.com/content/stories/2014/06/30/johansen-talks-are-at-an-impasse.html) Over the weekend, Johansen went camping. As if he didn’t care. He also said, “I’ve earned more than a two- or three-year deal with my play. It seems a little disrespectful, to be honest… It seems like a slap in the face.” Portzline goes on to say that the Blue Jackets aren’t happy with his conditioning habits and that he didn’t stay in Columbus to train. Point 3: Johansen wants a long term contract; one that will make him a UFA at the end. That leaves the Jackets with no security at the end. What has he done to deserve that? He had one good year. Take the shorter term and see what happens. Point 4: Johansen is messing with the future of the team. The energy that is being put into his contract signing could be put towards signing other free agents. If he is given an offer that the Jackets cannot/will not match, they will get draft picks. I’m not saying that would be a bad outcome, but wouldn’t you want to keep someone on the team that you know is going to perform, rather than pick someone who may not even play in the NHL? Point 5: He knew that his contract was going to be up at the end of the year. It’s possible Johansen could have been playing for a contract. If he is signed long term, I can almost guarantee that his effort and production will drop. Remember what happened with Steve Mason? If Johansen signs the short term deal, he will have to work for the next contract, the Jackets will have security at the end, and if he does end up regressing, he won’t be around for that long. From what Johansen said to Aaron Portzline, he refuses the bridge contract. I say “see ya.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slappipappi Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Not really, Mcdavid will be better than Johansen and Eichel will too. Johansen had less PPG in his draft year than Virtanen(WHL). And people say"Virtanen is a 3rd liner max". They may be better. Neither has proven yet they they will be. Many top (even elite) prospects don't reach their potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William_Clarkson Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 The point of a trade is so both sides can benefit, not just us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Maybe in NHL 14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shink Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 So now we are getting both, for 3 roster players. Burrows, Hansen and Stanton, with some prospects and picks. LMAO. Can you read I said my proposal is alittle closer in value but still probably would not get the deal done.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCNeil Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Can you read I said my proposal is alittle closer in value but still probably would not get the deal done....LMAO you aren't the OP of this thread, its not all about you. Good lord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shink Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 LMAO you aren't the OP of this thread, its not all about you. Good lord. Lmao My bad lol i thought you were referring to me as well because the op didn't have Ryan Stanton in his proposal and I did so.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks.brad Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 LOL so basically its jensen and a 1st for johansen.... CBJ laughs and hangs up the phone... You are asking for a player that is entering the prime of his career...there is going to need to be some overpayment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autistic1 Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 I was always dislike the Evander Kane trade threads because we now have a player in the system who plays a very similar game in Virtanen. Virtanen is a future no name 3rd liner like booth, whereas kane is a future franchise player. Terrible attitude and zero leadership aside, he's still worth a heck of a lot more than trash. I'd say shink, horvat, and gaunce sounds about right, maybe throw in a few picks. Then again you can't trade shink, because ideally you want Fox-Shink-Kane as your first line for the next generation. Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Virtanen is a future no name 3rd liner like booth, whereas kane is a future franchise player. Terrible attitude and zero leadership aside, he's still worth a heck of a lot more than trash. I'd say shink, horvat, and gaunce sounds about right, maybe throw in a few picks. Then again you can't trade shink, because ideally you want Fox-Shink-Kane as your first line for the next generation. Any ideas? Lets see how Fox plays in the pros before you pencil him on the 1st line lol. You may not have liked the Virtanen pick but there is no reason to call him a 3rd liner. I don't always agree with the picks my team makes. I am not afraid of saying I would have preferred another player but I still give my team the benefit of the doubt and support the player that they picked. If that player busts then I will surely flame my GM for the pick but until then you should have some patience and support the newest additions to the Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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