thejazz97 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Just thinking about our lineup in a few years, this is potentially what it could look like with the people we have right now: Virtanen-McCann-Fox Shinkaruk-Horvat-Gaunce Sedin-Vey-Jensen Cassels-Sedin-Grenier Labate/Lain/Kenins Subban-Corrado Hutton-Cederholm Tryamkin-Andersson McNally/Forsling/Stewart Lack/Demko Demko/Lack If all of our prospects could reach their potentials, this is probably what it would look like, barring injuries and trades. And assuming Matthias, Higgins, Richardson, Hansen, Burrows, Miller, Vrbata, Bieksa, Hamhuis, Tanev, Edler, Weber, Sbisa, and Bonino are all gone at this point, either retired or traded or not resigned. So this roster probably won't happen, but you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off_The_Schneid! Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Because a team can completely consist of drafted players. Yeah sure That defense is awful lucky if 1 of those players stick in the nhl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted August 20, 2014 Author Share Posted August 20, 2014 I feel like Tryamkin, Subban, Corrado and Hutton will for sure... not too sure about Cederholm, Andersson and the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Stammer- Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Matthias could still be here if not traded and Sbisa, plus Bonino and a bunch of the other younger guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bp79 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Why do people just want to cast off Edler sbisa Tanev Bones among others? This isn't the first thread iv'e read in which those players are nixed. In 3 years edler will still be in his prime, same with Tanev and Bones and Sbisa. Plus it's highly unlikely all are prospects will become nhl players especially are D prospects. I do however think majority of our forwards have a great shot as MG and Benning have really drafted some good guys Shink,Mcann,Kass,Vey Jake,Horvat,Jenson/Fox Cassels,Bones,Gaunce/fox ?,?,? Hammer,Tanev Edler,Corrado Subban,Tyamakin Forsling,Hutton of our top 9 I think it's fair to assume that they all wont pan out but would be nice if they do then i could see bones being moved. one thing is for sure we have too many potential top 9 type of players so i guess some will have to be moved if they all crack the nhl. I don't see any of them as 4th line type players maybe some could be moved in the future for better D prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Henrik will not be playing on the fourth line, I doubt they will play more then 3 years more anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Why do people just want to cast off Edler sbisa Tanev Bones among others? This isn't the first thread iv'e read in which those players are nixed. In 3 years edler will still be in his prime, same with Tanev and Bones and Sbisa. Plus it's highly unlikely all are prospects will become nhl players especially are D prospects. I do however think majority of our forwards have a great shot as MG and Benning have really drafted some good guys Shink,Mcann,Kass,Vey Jake,Horvat,Jenson/Fox Cassels,Bones,Gaunce/fox ?,?,? Hammer,Tanev Edler,Corrado Subban,Tyamakin Forsling,Hutton of our top 9 I think it's fair to assume that they all wont pan out but would be nice if they do then i could see bones being moved. one thing is for sure we have too many potential top 9 type of players so i guess some will have to be moved if they all crack the nhl. I don't see any of them as 4th line type players maybe some could be moved in the future for better D prospects. If Hutton burns it up again this year in the NCAA he will be under pressure from the Canucks to sign and come to training camp in one year. By 3 years from now he should be getting at least second pairing minutes with lot's of pp time. So 3 years from now my guess is; Hammer/Tanev or Hutton Edler/Tanev or Corrado or Hutton (not a good pair though) Subban/ Tryamkin (could be a dynamite pairing) I like Hammer and Hutton together, speedy duo with big offensive upside, cerebral as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 If Hank and Danny decline too far in 3-4 years, we'll probably have to bring in veterans to replace them. Otherwise, they'll mentor the young guns on their lines. Without factoring in UFA's I'd say something like this is reasonable Shinkaruk - Hank - Jensen Danny - Horvat/ McCann - Vey Bonino - Matthias - Kassian Zalewski - Gaunce - Archibald // Richardson Hamhuis - Corrado Edler - Tanev Sbisa, Stanton and Tryamkin battling for the last 2 spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 If Hank and Danny decline too far in 3-4 years, we'll probably have to bring in veterans to replace them. Otherwise, they'll mentor the young guns on their lines. Without factoring in UFA's I'd say something like this is reasonable Shinkaruk - Hank - Jensen Danny - Horvat/ McCann - Vey Bonino - Matthias - Kassian Zalewski - Gaunce - Archibald // Richardson Hamhuis - Corrado Edler - Tanev Sbisa, Stanton and Tryamkin battling for the last 2 spots. I could see the Sedin's doing that in 3 or 4 years for say a year or two more after that, so I agree. I can't see Zalewski and Archibald being there over Virtanen and Cassels or for that matter Stanton or Tryamkin being there over Hutton. Using your lineup as a base: Shink/ Hank/ Virtanen Danny/ Horvat/McCann or Vey Bonino/Vey or McCann/Kassian Gaunce/Cassels/Fox Jensen/Mathias Hammer/Hutton Edler/Tanev Sbisa/Tryamkin Corrado That gives us 8 natural centers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSnipeshow91 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Guys like Vrbata and Miller with some other guys will be traded. In the next years we draft/trade for a No#1/2 dman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 We'll have holes in our roster and that's what Benning will have to fill in in a few years with UFAs and trades. In my line-up it'll be where I see Horvat, McCann, Gaunce, Shinkaruk, Jensen, Kassian, Virtanen, Vey, Bonino, Sedins, etc in a few years. Sedin - Sedin - ______ Shinkaruk - Horvat - Kassian Gaunce - Bonino - Jensen Matthias - Cassels - Vey Zalewski/Kenins Edler - Tanev Hamhuis - Corrado Cederholm/Tryamkin - Hutton Lack _____ Sign a top UFA for the top 6, package Jensen + 1st round pick for another top notch player. Alot of depth, we can turn it into quality top 6 players. The Summer of 2017 will be a key time, Sedins will be in their final contracts and our future players will start to have to takeover the team. We could potentially re-sign the Sedins for 1 more year for insurance of a competitive team if they are still top 6 players but McCann, Virtanen will be playing their first year in the AHL. Hamhuis will still be a 35 year old solid two-way defenceman who can play 2nd pairing minutes with a young player who reminds of Hamhuis. Hutton should be able to play sheltered minutes on the 3rd pairing with a defensive defenceman IMO, that'll look good as a 3rd pairing. We have alot of bottom 6 depth in our prospect pool so some players were left out. I feel like we'll have alot of depth, Vey, Cassels, Matthias will be top 9 players playing on the 4th line. But we can rely on the Sedins for the scoring and top-end talent so we'll need to replace that with other players. Something interesting about Horvat and Shinkaruk that reminds of another duo, Kane and Toews. I don't want to go to this again and say Horvat = Toews, Shinkaruk = Kane. On Chicago when Toews and Kane are together they are dangerous obviously and teams need to shut that down but when Kane is on another line he faces the 2nd pairing or the easier competition while Toews takes the hard minutes against hard opponents. If we can do something like that with Shinkaruk and Horvat it'll be extremely difficult for other teams to play against that, throw in McCann and Virtanen and we might have something. 2 lines of = difficulty will be hard for opponents, you don't need a Stamkos, Crosby, Ovechkin to win a cup. If you have 2 lines who can do damage that's even better. You don't have a player taking up alot of your salary cap like Ovie or Crosby but instead you can have 2 players that do as much damage and the cap room spreads through to other players on your roster. A potential top 6 of including: Shinkaruk - McCann - Jensen Virtanen - Horvat - Kassian will be extremely tough to shutdown, which one do you want to shutdown? It'll leave one line open for easier competition and can explode on 2nd pairings. LA and Chicago did the same thing, you shutdown one it leave the other one open (Pearson-Carter-Toffoli, Saad-Shaw-Kane). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks1219 Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 I feel like Tryamkin, Subban, Corrado and Hutton will for sure... not too sure about Cederholm, Andersson and the rest. I think Cederholm has a better chance at being an NHL regular than Subban, to be honest. Size hasn't been an issue for some defensemen but it's still a legitimate factor. Cederholm is big (6'2 214lbs.) and plays a much safer defensive-style game than Subban. Jordan plays a high-flying offensive game-- much like his brother-- but his size (5'9) needs to at least be a consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 It's hard to tell what our lineup will be in three to four years precisely, with signings and trades that could occur. But just by looking at our prospect pool, I can really see us being one of the top teams in the league when most of our top prospects hit their prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 The Summer of 2017 will be a key time, Sedins will be in their final contracts and our future players will start to have to takeover the team. We could potentially re-sign the Sedins for 1 more year for insurance of a competitive team if they are still top 6 players but McCann, Virtanen will be playing their first year in the AHL. Hamhuis will still be a 35 year old solid two-way defenceman who can play 2nd pairing minutes with a young player who reminds of Hamhuis. Hutton should be able to play sheltered minutes on the 3rd pairing with a defensive defenceman IMO, that'll look good as a 3rd pairing. Optimistic yes, but I don't project that long a timeline, especially for Virtanen. If not for the injury, he would likely put up a good case for a roster spot this year. He will go back to junior for the entire season, and then either make the team or go to the AHL for one (or part of one) season. Everything points to him being near if not on the cusp of being NHL-ready. McCann rides with a chip on his shoulder and has already said he expects to challenge to make the team next year. The big thing for him will be to put on 10-15lbs, and to hit 85-90 points in an increased offensive role this season. If he does, it may be his last season in junior as well. Only management knows their plan and it of course depends on the players' development, but I'd say Horvat is likely for this year, Shinkaruk and possibly Virtanen next, and Virtanen certainly with Cassels and/or McCann after that. They aren't all that far away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadcanucks Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Just thinking about our lineup in a few years, this is potentially what it could look like with the people we have right now: Virtanen-McCann-Fox Shinkaruk-Horvat-Gaunce Sedin-Vey-Jensen Cassels-Sedin-Grenier Labate/Lain/Kenins Subban-Corrado Hutton-Cederholm Tryamkin-Andersson McNally/Forsling/Stewart Lack/Demko Demko/Lack If all of our prospects could reach their potentials, this is probably what it would look like, barring injuries and trades. And assuming Matthias, Higgins, Richardson, Hansen, Burrows, Miller, Vrbata, Bieksa, Hamhuis, Tanev, Edler, Weber, Sbisa, and Bonino are all gone at this point, either retired or traded or not resigned. So this roster probably won't happen, but you never know. Awesome sig, Jazz... Assuming that we are selecting from the current roster/prospect pool, my prediction for opening day roster for the 2017-2018 season would be: Shinkaruk (23) -- Hank (37) -- Kassian (26) Daniel (37) -- Horvat (22) -- Jensen (24) Bonino (29) -- Vey (26) -- Virtanen (21) Matthias (29) -- Gaunce (23) -- Hansen (31) 13th forward: McCann (21) or Fox (23) Hamhuis (35) -- Corrado (24) Edler (31) -- Tanev (28) Sbisa (27) -- Hutton (24) 7th D: Tryamkin (23) Lack (29) Markstrom (27) Demko (21) (starter in Utica) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimp C Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Virtanen-McDavid-Kassian Shinkaruk-Horvat-Jensen Bonino-McCann-Cassels Fox-Lain-Gaunce Hamhuis-Tanev Hutton-Corrado Tryamkin-Bieksa Lack Eriksson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Optimistic yes, but I don't project that long a timeline, especially for Virtanen. If not for the injury, he would likely put up a good case for a roster spot this year. He will go back to junior for the entire season, and then either make the team or go to the AHL for one (or part of one) season. Everything points to him being near if not on the cusp of being NHL-ready. McCann rides with a chip on his shoulder and has already said he expects to challenge to make the team next year. The big thing for him will be to put on 10-15lbs, and to hit 85-90 points in an increased offensive role this season. If he does, it may be his last season in junior as well. Only management knows their plan and it of course depends on the players' development, but I'd say Horvat is likely for this year, Shinkaruk and possibly Virtanen next, and Virtanen certainly with Cassels and/or McCann after that. They aren't all that far away There's more to learn for Virtanen so I don't think next year will be his year to make the team. He can develop his offensive game more. Virtanen needs to be more offensively dimensional to play in the NHL, this isn't that far away. He needs to be around 90-100 points next season as a good sign of progression. Not everything points to him being close to the NHL, I'm thinking he plays his junior years out. I see McCann as a project, he's good defensively but he has 1C potential if he can add strength on his legs, improve his balance and become more consistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex425 Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 I dunno but in 5 years it could look like Shinkaruk-Horvat-Virtanen Jensen-McCann-Kassian Bonino-Cassels-Vey Archibald-Gaunce-Grenier Hutton-2015 1st rounder Corrado-Tanev Tryamkin-Hamhuis Demko Random goalie from a draft/free agency I like how the line Shinkaruk-Horvat-Virtanen sounds. Speed, skill, physical, defensive, goal scoring, and playmaking. If Horvat can be a 60-70 point scorer, Shinkaruk a 70-90 point scorer and Virtanen a 65-85 point scorer this line would be incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Sedin - Sedin - Virtanen Shinkaruk - Horvat - Kassian Bonino - Vey - Jensen Matthias - Gaunce - Burrows/Archibald/Grenier Edler - Tanev Hamhuis - Sbisa Tryamkin/Hutton - Corrado/Subban Lack Markstrom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Outside the envelope; Shink / Cassels / Virtanen Our best passer may be Cassels. McCann or Fox / Horvat / Kassian Second line that can score and won't be messed with. Jensen / Gaunce or McCann/ Fox or McCann Another line that can score, Jensen needs to improve his D by then. Bonino / Vey or LaBate / Vey or Labate or Mathias or Grennier, etc. That line should be able to score too! or for the 4th; Grennier/ Mathias/ Labate the 6' 4'' or taller line with some skill to boot ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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