BanTSN Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 "You wanna know what happened to Jimmy Hoffa? Well, let's just say our meat wasn't always '100% beef.'" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 If they're working for the current minimum wage, they can usually find a job that pays the same. If theyre successful, their fight will have been won. A statement that justifies 50-70% wage increases. "I can just find another job.. pay me more!" Why aren't you running McDonald's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebuddy Posted September 5, 2014 Author Share Posted September 5, 2014 A statement that justifies 50-70% wage increases. "I can just find another job.. pay me more!" Why aren't you running McDonald's? McDonald's can afford to in Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William_Clarkson Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Isnt that always the way it is when you're fighting for your rights? Maybe they'll find sympathetic employers. It's your right to be paid a certain amount? Minimum wage is bad enough, but apparently it's your right to get even more than that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalky Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 If Company A decides to pay Person A less than Company B would, Person A would choose to work at Company B. Thus, Company A would be compelled to better pay better wages, since they'd rather have employees at all than no functioning business. If Person A decides to accept Company A's wages, they have decided that is what their labour value is. Which is not Company A's fault. That's not a real world comparison. Capitalism the market system is not the market system we call "Capitalism". You are taking human nature out of the equation. Min wage exists because without it workers rights are abused and Unions do not protect the working class...anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockout Casualty Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 These people may not realize it, but they're actually fighting for their own unemployment. Good, maybe it'll create an unemployment crisis that pushes our government toward considering alternative economic structures that we inevitably will need. Better sooner than later, when the pain may be too strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianLoonie Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Good, maybe it'll create an unemployment crisis that pushes our government toward considering alternative economic structures that we inevitably will need. Better sooner than later, when the pain may be too strong. Yes, because governments can't make things any worse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebuddy Posted September 5, 2014 Author Share Posted September 5, 2014 It's your right to be paid a certain amount? Minimum wage is bad enough, but apparently it's your right to get even more than that? So you want to go back to 6 day a week 10 hour work days with no vacations or safety measures too? Help yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianLoonie Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 So you want to go back to 6 day a week 10 hour work days with no vacations or safety measures too? Help yourself. As an entrepreneur that's standard operating procedure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asian player Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 If you're not satisfied with what you're paid, maybe aspire to achieve a career that pays what you're content with. If you think you're entitled to more, then you don't have to take the job. A hundred others will fight for that spot. Sick of strikes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebuddy Posted September 5, 2014 Author Share Posted September 5, 2014 As an entrepreneur that's standard operating procedure. So you would be okay with it if we applied that across the board and paid NHL players minimum wage too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 So you would be okay with it if we applied that across the board and paid NHL players minimum wage too? However much Australia pays NHL players is what they should be paid. It's science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianLoonie Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 So you would be okay with it if we applied that across the board and paid NHL players minimum wage too? They are paid what their employers value their services are worth to them, just like I earn as much as my subscribers and clients value my products and services I produce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebuddy Posted September 5, 2014 Author Share Posted September 5, 2014 They are paid what their employers value their services are worth to them, just like I earn as much as my subscribers and clients value my products and services I produce. Thats not true, as theyre contracted, unionized players. However, if they were paid minimum wage, would you be okay with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebuddy Posted September 5, 2014 Author Share Posted September 5, 2014 However much Australia pays NHL players is what they should be paid. It's science. How about in Vancouver? If they could only make $10 an hour would you be okay with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William_Clarkson Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Thats not true, as theyre contracted, unionized players. However, if they were paid minimum wage, would you be okay with that? They wouldn't be fine with it and would strike. Difference is, professional hockey players are a lot harder to replace than fast food workers. Which is why professional hockey players make a lot more than fast food workers. Same reason teams in the KHL always try to sign NHL players. I don't see Burger King trying to steal workers from McDonald's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianLoonie Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Thats not true, as theyre contracted, unionized players. However, if they were paid minimum wage, would you be okay with that? If no-one values their service as hockey players, then they won't be making minimum wage. Do major-junior players make minimum wage? AHL-ers? Generally...no. Are you going to say they're underpaid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebuddy Posted September 5, 2014 Author Share Posted September 5, 2014 They wouldn't be fine with it and would strike. Difference is, professional hockey players are a lot harder to replace than fast food workers. Which is why professional hockey players make a lot more than fast food workers. Same reason teams in the KHL always try to sign NHL players. I don't see Burger King trying to steal workers from McDonald's. I'm asking YOU specifically, not them. Would YOU be okay with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William_Clarkson Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 I'm asking YOU specifically, not them. Would YOU be okay with it? Irrelevant, because they wouldn't be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebuddy Posted September 5, 2014 Author Share Posted September 5, 2014 Irrelevant, because they wouldn't be. Why wouldnt they be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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