Burlinbert Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Not your typical proposal....... I think the Canucks , Jackets and Penguins could make a fair three-way deal, using these players as a base starting point for discussion. Using the following players as a base , and by adding more players can you help me make a fair proposal for all 3 teams??? Nucks Johansen Jackets Sutter Higgins Pens Bonino Markstrom using these guys as a base for a trade, i think this is fair Nucks Johansen Calvert Jackets Sutter Higgins Scuderi Canucks 1st round pick Pens Bonino Markstrom Hansen Bluejackets 2nd round pick CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTERCapGeek Armchair GM RosterFORWARDSDaniel Sedin ($7.000m) / Henrik Sedin ($7.000m) / Radim Vrbata ($5.000m) Nicklas Jensen ($0.863m) / Ryan Johansen ($6.000m) / Zack Kassian ($1.750m) Shawn Matthias ($1.750m) / Linden Vey ($0.735m) / Alexandre Burrows ($4.500m) Brad Richardson ($1.150m) / Bo Horvat ($0.894m) / Derek Dorsett ($1.633m) Matt Calvert ($0.988m) / Tom Sestito ($0.750m) / DEFENSEMENAlexander Edler ($5.000m) / Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m) Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m) / Chris Tanev ($2.000m) Luca Sbisa ($2.175m) / Yannick Weber ($0.850m) Ryan Stanton ($0.550m) / GOALTENDERSRyan Miller ($6.000m) Eddie Lack ($1.150m) ------CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)(estimations for 2014-15)SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $67,638,333; BONUSES: $850,000CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $1,361,667 FORWARDS Chris Kunitz ($3.850m) / Evgeni Malkin ($9.500m) / Patric Hornqvist ($4.250m) Nick Spaling ($2.200m) / Sidney Crosby ($8.700m) / Pascal Dupuis ($3.750m) Beau Bennett ($0.900m) / Nick Bonino ($1.900m) / Jannik Hansen ($2.500m) Blake Comeau ($0.700m) / Marcel Goc ($1.200m) / Steve Downie ($1.000m) Craig Adams ($0.700m) DEFENSEMEN Kris Letang ($7.250m) / Paul Martin ($5.000m) Christian Ehrhoff ($4.000m) / Olli Maatta ($0.894m) Simon Despres ($0.900m) / Derrick Pouliot ($0.863m) Robert Bortuzzo ($0.600m) / Brian Dumoulin ($0.832m) GOALTENDERS Marc-Andre Fleury ($5.000m) Jacob Markstrom ($1.200m) ------ CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter) (estimations for 2014-15) SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $67,689,167; BONUSES: $493,333 CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $1,310,833 FORWARDSBoone Jenner ($0.778m) / Brandon Dubinsky ($4.200m) / Nathan Horton ($5.300m) Scott Hartnell ($4.750m) / Artem Anisimov ($3.283m) / Simon Hjalmarsson ($0.925m) Nick Foligno ($3.083m) / Brandon Sutter ($3.300m) / Cam Atkinson ($1.150m) Chris Higgins ($2.500m) / Mark Letestu ($1.250m) / Jared Boll ($1.700m) Corey Tropp ($0.625m) DEFENSEMENJames Wisniewski ($5.500m) / Fedor Tyutin ($4.500m) Jack Johnson ($4.357m) / Ryan Murray ($0.894m) David Savard ($1.300m) / Rob Scuderi ($3.375m) Tim Erixon ($0.600m) / Dalton Prout ($1.075m) GOALTENDERSSergei Bobrovsky ($5.625m) Curtis McElhinney ($0.650m) CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)(estimations for 2014-15)SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $62,312,976; BONUSES: $2,715,833CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $6,687,024 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex425 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Why would the jackets do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burlinbert Posted September 16, 2014 Author Share Posted September 16, 2014 Why would the jackets do that? Maybe, Johansen asks for a trade. Personally, I think the issue with Johansen is he refuses to sign a long term deal. He probably doesn't want to live in Columbus longterm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87Crosby Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Why would the jackets do that? Why would the canucks trade away a player they just acquired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovi one kenobi Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Van: Johansen, Depres, Pit 3rd Columbus: Sutter, Higgins,Van 1st, Pit 1st Pittsburgh: Bonino, Markstrom, Jenner, Columbus 2nd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burlinbert Posted September 16, 2014 Author Share Posted September 16, 2014 Why would the canucks trade away a player they just acquired. um to make the Canucks better. to bring in a hometown player to help season ticket sales. Its not like they actively sought out Bonino, they were forced to trade for him because there options were limited by Kesler. Bonino was Bennings best option available, not necessarily what he wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burlinbert Posted September 16, 2014 Author Share Posted September 16, 2014 Van: Johansen, Depres, Pit 3rd Columbus: Sutter, Higgins,Van 1st, Pit 1st Pittsburgh: Bonino, Markstrom, Jenner, Columbus 2nd thanks for the input . its interesting . Columbus says no. they are not giving up Jenner and Johansen, there 2 best young players. Pittsburg would say yes Canucks would say yes but Despres is left handed, would be takin Sbisa spot on depth chart unless they go with to leftys for the 3rd pairing CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTERCapGeek Armchair GM RosterFORWARDSDaniel Sedin ($7.000m) / Henrik Sedin ($7.000m) / Radim Vrbata ($5.000m) Nicklas Jensen ($0.863m) / Ryan Johansen ($5.750m) / Zack Kassian ($1.750m) Shawn Matthias ($1.750m) / Linden Vey ($0.735m) / Alexandre Burrows ($4.500m) Derek Dorsett ($1.633m) / Brad Richardson ($1.150m) / Jannik Hansen ($2.500m) Tom Sestito ($0.750m) / DEFENSEMENAlexander Edler ($5.000m) / Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m) Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m) / Chris Tanev ($2.000m) Simon Despres ($0.900m) / Yannick Weber ($0.850m) Luca Sbisa ($2.175m) / Ryan Stanton ($0.550m) / GOALTENDERSRyan Miller ($6.000m) Eddie Lack ($1.150m) BUYOUTSDavid Booth ($0.000m) Keith Ballard ($0.000m) RETAINED SALARIES (1.16% of upper limit)Roberto Luongo ($0.800m—15.00%) BONUS OVERAGE$0------CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)(estimations for 2014-15)SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,906,667; BONUSES: $0CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $93,333 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex425 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Anyways, we will have to give the jackets a 1st and Pittsburgh should give them a B level prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisbanks Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Maybe, Johansen asks for a trade. Personally, I think the issue with Johansen is he refuses to sign a long term deal. He probably doesn't want to live in Columbus longterm.im a CBJ fan... johansen wants a long term deal but wants to be payed like 30 goal scorer (which he should be because chances are in the next 5 years he will average high 30s per season probably a couple 40 goal seasons too) but cbj for some reason wants a bridge contract like subban...(even thou it clearly bit montreal in the ass) they just dont want to pay him like a 30 goal scorer until he does it at leased twice... so its not an issue of johansen not wanting to be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slappipappi Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Columbus moves Jenner (who will be a beast) because they are forced to move J? Let's get series, if Columbus trades J, the players they get will cause the giving team much pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Maybe, Johansen asks for a trade. Personally, I think the issue with Johansen is he refuses to sign a long term deal. He probably doesn't want to live in Columbus longterm. Actually, Johansen wants a long term deal but Columbus isn't willing to give it to him. RJ's been asking for 4 or more years and CBJ's been reluctant to even go to 3. That said, if there's any damage from these negotiations then it could come to a trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Between the op and Ovies proposal the Jackets get absolutely raped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragon4401 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Well thats one way to go on the do not return call list...Personally im not sold on Johansen...Look at E. Kane in 2011 had 30 goals 57 points and other then that he has never cracked the 20 goal mark and 43 points his next highest1 year does not make a deal fair for us incase he regresses while paying what Columbus would want if he stays on point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Not your typical proposal....... I think the Canucks , Jackets and Penguins could make a fair three-way deal, using these players as a base starting point for discussion. Using the following players as a base , and by adding more players can you help me make a fair proposal for all 3 teams??? Nucks Johansen Jackets Sutter Higgins Pens Bonino Markstrom Van: Johansen, Depres, Pit 3rd Columbus: Sutter, Higgins,Van 1st, Pit 1st Pittsburgh: Bonino, Markstrom, Jenner, Columbus 2ndBoth are absolutely atrocious for Columbus and it's a joke you think they'd even consider either of them. The minimum it would take to get them talking would be Horvat+1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missioncanucksfan Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 This is Johansen's agent trying to knock one out of the park Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burlinbert Posted September 17, 2014 Author Share Posted September 17, 2014 doesnt look like johansen is going to resign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure.10 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 how about leave Pitt outta this and deal directly with CBJ. To CBJ: Gaunce, Vey, Hansen and Corrado To VAN: Johansen and 2015 3rd? Is that fair value? Having really good 2 way centre prospects in Horvat and McCann, I think we can afford to part ways with Gaunce and Vey. Sedin-Sedin-Vrbata Bonino-Johansen-Burrows Higgins-Horvat-Kassian Matthias-Richardson-Sestito Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burlinbert Posted September 17, 2014 Author Share Posted September 17, 2014 how about leave Pitt outta this and deal directly with CBJ. To CBJ: Gaunce, Vey, Hansen and Corrado To VAN: Johansen and 2015 3rd? Is that fair value? Having really good 2 way centre prospects in Horvat and McCann, I think we can afford to part ways with Gaunce and Vey. Sedin-Sedin-Vrbata Bonino-Johansen-Burrows Higgins-Horvat-Kassian Matthias-Richardson-Sestito not fair value at all more like Horvat, 2015 1st, Jensen,Tanev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure.10 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 not fair value at all more like Horvat, 2015 1st, Jensen,Tanev lol neither is this. That's a big time overpayment for a guy who's had ONE good season. I would just tell CBJ to pay him and hang up if that's what they asked for. Before last season he had a mere 33 points in 107 games. And even last season, its not like he averaged a point a game. 63 points in 82 games is good, not great or elite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 lol neither is this. That's a big time overpayment for a guy who's had ONE good season. I would just tell CBJ to pay him and hang up if that's what they asked for. Before last season he had a mere 33 points in 107 games. And even last, its not like he averaged a point a game. 63 points in 82 games is good, not great or elite You realize his age right? I'm not agreeing with that price either, however your proposal is pretty bad. Not one player you offered really has value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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