Ain'tYouSurprised? Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 An ugly public spat between the Ottawa Senators and Larry Kelly, the agent representing defenceman Marc Methot, is echoing in the air as the team kicks off training camp Thursday. Senators assistant GM Pierre Dorion said in a TSN 1200 interview Wednesday that he was “flabbergasted” by a report which said the sides were only $300,000 apart in negotiations towards a long-term contract extension. Kelly and Methot, who were both quoted in the story, wondered whether the Senators were truly interested in getting a deal done. “First of all, it’s disappointing,” Dorion said, during a break at the club’s charity golf tournament. “I’ve been with the team for eight years and I don’t know if I’ve ever been more disappointed about anything that has been written.” Dorion went on to say that “the information within that article is totally false and there’s no other way to put it.” According to Kelly, both sides have moved from their starting point in negotiations — Brooks Orpik’s five-year, $27.5 million deal with the Washington Capitals was the starting point for Methot’s camp — to narrow the gap. Kelly says Methot had lowered his demands to $5 million per season, while the Senators had raised their offer to an average of $4.7 million per season. Kelly said Wednesday that he “absolutely” stands by the quoted numbers. Dorion had choice words for Kelly, saying it was negotiation in bad faith, insisting the Senators have always been interested in signing Methot to a long-term deal. “We want to keep Marc around, but when you see things like this, you say ‘is it worth it’?” Dorion isn’t sure what’s next. What is clear is that Methot and Bobby Ryan – he, too, is entering the final year of his existing contract – are in limbo, Senators owner Eugene Melnyk is making noise about the need to maintain a tight budget due to the difficulties of playing in the Ottawa marketplace. Melnyk, speaking Monday on Sportsnet 590 in Toronto, talked about the franchise’s long-standing problems stemming from having the federal and municipal governments as the city’s two biggest employers. “We’ve got a tough job to make hockey work in Ottawa, but we’re trying to make it work,” Melnyk told the radio station. “We are a very regional market. Our biggest employer can’t buy tickets, nor can they buy tickets or give tickets. The number two biggest employer is the city and they can’t buy tickets or give tickets. We’re number 29 out of 30 (in the NHL) in corporate opportunities and it’s not easy.” Melnyk says raising ticket prices substantially isn’t an option in a “price sensitive” marketplace, which is why he has adopted the philosophy of developing from within as much as possible. The Senators payroll is $54.345 million, far below the league salary cap of $69 million, and the club ranks 28th among 30 NHL teams. Melnyk says he is willing to add to the payroll later in the season if he’s convinced the club has a shot at making a long playoff run. http://ottawacitizen.com/sports/hockey/nhl/senators-extra/methot-negotiations-turn-nasty I hope the Sens and Methot get a deal done. He is a great smart top 4 d-man. I can tell you that there ain't much of those guys like him with the big body to add to that. Let's hope for Methot's agent sake that this won't become another Overhardt/Johansen saga all over again. _________________________________________________________________________________ http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2014/09/17/report-ryan-turned-down-sens-seven-year-49m-offer/ There were also unconfirmed reports that Bobby Ryan turned down a 7 year, 49 million deal contract from the Sens. Hmmm. If Ryan is going to down that path, then the Sens should look to trading him come the trade deadline, and not lose him for nothing in FA next year. I don't know about you guys but that's a nice looking offer for a player his calibre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Western Red Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Well getting Ryan would sure piss Burkie off... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstewboy Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Sounds like it's not the most pleasant atmosphere there. 7.1 million a year over the next 7 years is a great contract for Ryan who is 4 years removed from his best season of 71 points. But who knows. With contracts being thrown out like they are in Free Agency every year, Bobby Ryan may be able to command 8 mill AAV when jokers like Bolland are getting 5.5 AAV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManUtd Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I can't say I'm anything but pleased at the prospect of another top 4 LD on the market this summer especially if that's the kind of number Methot is looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ain'tYouSurprised? Posted September 18, 2014 Author Share Posted September 18, 2014 Sounds like it's not the most pleasant atmosphere there. 7.1 million a year over the next 7 years is a great contract for Ryan who is 4 years removed from his best season of 71 points. But who knows. With contracts being thrown out like they are in Free Agency every year, Bobby Ryan may be able to command 8 mill AAV when jokers like Bolland are getting 5.5 AAV. Agreed. 7.1 mill is something to deeply consider. At least he has a few months. He will, and I'm sure he will take his time. There's no rush for now. If he signs this kind of contract, Sens are locking him up until hes 32/33 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 And the lockout was for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S.Strowbridge Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 — Brooks Orpik’s five-year, $27.5 million deal with the Washington Capitals was the starting point for Methot’s camp — That deal was widely considered one of the worse deals of the year, at least for the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket. Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 @TSNBobMcKenzie: Regarding reports Bobby Ryan turned down 7 x $7M from OTT, my understanding is not only did Ryan NOT turn it down, it was never offered. @TSNBobMcKenzie: OTT did present multiple proposals - from 2 to 7 yrs - to Ryan but Ryan's reps didn't reject anything. Said they would re-visit talks later. @TSNBobMcKenzie: As OTT GM Bryan Murray said in tsn.ca interview, Ryan wants to wait to see how season unfolds for him and team before negotiating numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great 8 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 @TSNBobMcKenzie: Regarding reports Bobby Ryan turned down 7 x $7M from OTT, my understanding is not only did Ryan NOT turn it down, it was never offered. @TSNBobMcKenzie: OTT did present multiple proposals - from 2 to 7 yrs - to Ryan but Ryan's reps didn't reject anything. Said they would re-visit talks later. @TSNBobMcKenzie: As OTT GM Bryan Murray said in tsn.ca interview, Ryan wants to wait to see how season unfolds for him and team before negotiating numbers. Ryans gonna go super saiyan and get a 100pt season and demand more than kane or toews did, than he is going to get released to free agency where the canucks sign him to an 8yr 950k contract. ONE CAN DREAM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MayRayDown Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Methot should just accept the 4.7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanTSN Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Good Christ Bobby Ryan is NOT a $7mil player. Burke was right. Guy's heartless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ain'tYouSurprised? Posted September 18, 2014 Author Share Posted September 18, 2014 Ryans gonna go super saiyan and get a 100pt season and demand more than kane or toews did, than he is going to get released to free agency where the canucks sign him to an 8yr 950k contract. ONE CAN DREAM. Someone's been lacking the reality check... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benchsplinters Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 And the lockout was for? I have been wondering why we had a lock out as well. Appears they all like to pee in their own coffee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightHawkSniper Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I have been wondering why we had a lock out as well. Appears they all like to pee in their own coffee. Then they whine and cry when they think players make too much; too rich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustapha Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 If Subban can get 9, I can't see why Methot can't get at least 5.5 - 6 million. And to think some players were begrudging the last lockout... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I hate this plug methot. He tried to take hank or Daniels head off on a few different occasions when he played for lumbus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2SKATES1STICK Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Methot is a $4m d man no more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Deep Methots by Marc Methot "If I ever get real rich, I hope I'm not mean to poor people...like I am now." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fakename70 Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Not surprised about Ryan if it's true. He made it pretty clear while he was still in Anaheim that he'd prefer to play in Philadelphia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcon45ca Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Sounds like it's not the most pleasant atmosphere there. 7.1 million a year over the next 7 years is a great contract for Ryan who is 4 years removed from his best season of 71 points. But who knows. With contracts being thrown out like they are in Free Agency every year, Bobby Ryan may be able to command 8 mill AAV when jokers like Bolland are getting 5.5 AAV. The atmosphere seems fine, but there are business realities in that market. If a player wants to capitalize 100% on his value, then Ottawa may not be the best place. That being said, there are Canucks (Bieksa*cough*cough) who've taken "discounts" to play where they feel comfortable. In the end, fanning this kinda stuff in the media seems a little low class to me. Just sayin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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