Provost Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 I loved what tom Sestito was able to do last season and I like fighting in hockey. Having said that, I fully believe that he will be waived before the season. I simply can't see him having a role with this team, he is simply not built for a team that rolls four lines who are all expected to play lots of minutes in many situations. We have better team toughness now than last year so having a pure enforcer isn't as necessary. In addition, we have plenty of young call ups who can play a fourth line role who have more to offer as a player and have more upside who can come if we have injuries. Gaunce Lain Archibald Grenier Also, dropping Sestito means we can keep Horvat for his 9 games at least and then probably loan him directly to the junior national team where he can play significant minutes and develop more than being in juniors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksSayEh Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 I rather have him than all those guys unless Gaunce is ready. He tries, and hits like a train. Seemed like one of the few who gave a ***** last season. It will likely be a rough year, prefer to have him round rather than not.He can make some fine plays too, one of the best players among knuckle draggers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2SKATES1STICK Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 keep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conscience Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Nothing wrong with him being the 13th forward with the option of having him dress when we need him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whale Tail Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 I wouldn't mind seeing him slim down a little to see if it increases his speed and play a little. Maybe he could work on contributing a little more on the ice other than fights and spirit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted September 21, 2014 Author Share Posted September 21, 2014 I rather have him than all those guys unless Gaunce is ready. He tries, and hits like a train. Seemed like one of the few who gave a ***** last season. It will likely be a rough year, prefer to have him round rather than not. He can make some fine plays too, one of the best players among knuckle draggers. I don't disagree with anything you say except preferring him to the young guys. He is a great character guy who made some nice plays and did exactly what the coaches asked him last year. Different coaches, different system though. All Desjardins has been talking about is dictating the pace and rolling four lines. That screams "not Sestito" in my books. Even if you assume his linemates will get some PK time while he is stapled to the bench, he would still be expected to play 10+ minutes a game in the new regime and that is a lot to ask for him to do at a high pace. Some of it depends on injuries in the pre-season... but if we are healthy at the start of the regular season I see this as our starting roster: Sedin-Sedin-Vrbata Burrows-Bonino-Kassian Higgins-Vey-Hansen Matthias-Richardson-Dorsett Horvat Bieksa-Hamhuis Edler-Tanev Sbisa-Weber Stanton Miller Lack (Markstrom may still be there but could easily be gone if another team gets a goalie injury) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Sestito is staying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklehead44 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Spare forward. Dorsett gets injured quite a bit, will probably draw into the lineup for around 40-50 games (ie not as many as last year). He was one of the few sort of bright spots last season. Stepped up, won/drew a few big fights. Scored the same number of goals as Burrows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specter's Vengeance Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Lol I find it comical how everyome is split 50/50 on getting rid of or keeping this player or that player but when it comes to Tom Sestito damn near EVERYONE says keep the guy... Im sorry I don't want him and we will be letting him go after his contract is over this year to make room for a young player. Quote it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 I think he's gonna battle Dorsett for the role o 4th line plug. Both are capable of putting up a minor amount of points and Tom "broke out" with 5 goals last year. That said, Dorsett has had 20 points in a season before, so Tom has his work cut out for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsiders Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 great 13th forward. Keep. I think Roland Kenins might step in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIBdaQUIB Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Don't need to roll 4 lines with speed against Calgary but do need someone big who can fight to stand up to the goon squad the Flames are putting together. Sestito can be the 13th guy and slotted in for those games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted September 21, 2014 Author Share Posted September 21, 2014 I think he's gonna battle Dorsett for the role o 4th line plug. Both are capable of putting up a minor amount of points and Tom "broke out" with 5 goals last year. That said, Dorsett has had 20 points in a season before, so Tom has his work cut out for him. If that is the competition, Sestito is screwed. Think of Dorsett more as a comparable to Chris Neil in Ottawa, not an enforcer. Dorsett plays 11-15 minutes per game historically over his career... Sestito 5-6. If we don't dress Sestito, the other team doesn't dress its goon... then our 4th line is more talented and can contribute more than almost any 4th line in the league. If the other team dresses its goon, then Dorsett/Sbisa (or whoever replaces Sestito in the rotation) has to step up if need be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Li'l Fra Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Sestito is a great team guy. He fought when he had to, did his job, and played fairly well. But he's kind of a tweener. He doesn't definitively win his fights...and he's not the best forecheck option. For enforcers to be most effective, they have to be intimidating, downright scary...like Brashear, or Probert. Guys you REALLY don't want to have to answer to. And I guess that's my indictment of Sestito; he's not scaring anybody. And he's not quite a good enough hockey player to overcome that. Seems like a cool guy, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xereau Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Tom can play hockey. And fight. And play hockey. He isn't just a fighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted September 21, 2014 Author Share Posted September 21, 2014 Tom can play hockey. And fight. And play hockey. He isn't just a fighter. Averaging the following minutes played in the previous five seasons listed below does not support your hypothesis no progression at all in his career: 6:27 6:37 5:46 6:25 6:53 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YEGCanuck Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 It will be a tough call. Tom makes a contribution to the team and it will be difficult to put up points in the western conference without the availability of a respected fighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted September 21, 2014 Author Share Posted September 21, 2014 It will be a tough call. Tom makes a contribution to the team and it will be difficult to put up points in the western conference without the availability of a respected fighter. I should add that I am not making a judgement on whether I think the plan/vision is right or wrong in not having a place for a Sestito. I was heartily sick of seeing our players get ragdolled a couple of seasons ago having toe fight above their weight class every time. What I am saying is that it sounds like with the vision of the coach as has been expressed, Sestito doesn't fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WZRD Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Keep. He showed last year that he can make some plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Li'l Fra Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 I'd love to keep him too. But if it comes down to him or Horvat...well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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