canucks.brad Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 maybe...just maybe...he isn't that good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 What's with the lack of punctuation and grammar in that article? "Were" vs. "We're" -> "we're going to be a four lined team" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bookie Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 That article is a writhing snakepit of cliche, hyperbole and strange circular logic. banished to the nether regions of the lineup. everyone but the laundry guy But other than those problems, mistakes or whatever one wishes to call them, all he’s done is try to learn the game and get better. And really, what does the pre-season prove? The games mean nothing and most of the players play that way. What is it about this guy that coaches seem to find so objectionable? And are coaches always right? by the grace of God the guy scored in the first period do they still print this or is he only allowed to rant on the internet now? Multiple Warning Signs Surround Tony Gallagher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bookie Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 What's with the lack of punctuation and grammar in that article? "Were" vs. "We're" -> "we're going to be a four lined team" I think they get stripped out in the boards formatting, more often when posting from mobile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddhahoodlum Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Remember, the job of media, whether print, radio, or tv, is to sell space to advertisers. The more the public reads the paper or watches the news, the more money the company can charge advertisers. We are just a means to an end. And this is why these hacks will print any old crap and don't bother to fact check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 I don't know where CDC got this idea that PWF generally take longer to develop? Look at the 10 best PWFs in the game today. Most, if not all of them, started to make an impact with their club at a young age. The only PWF most folks on CDC know is Bertuzzi, thus every PWF must fill that mold. In actuality, he's just an exception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NatureBoy Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 You don't develop anything playing at a lower level. From day 1 I really just wanted a coach to just simply freakin put him on a top line and just let him play. Give him 10 games without any demotion and see how he does. Until this simply happens, we will not know what his potential is and if he could be a top 6 player. Still hasn't gotten the chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex425 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Kassian hasn't done anything when given a chance in a top 6 role. He simply isn't that good and needs to earn his minutes. I believe he should be given a legit chance and will get that chance this season. That's not right. Kassian didn't get a shot when he played well, and did great in few games with the Sedins, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Barzal Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 The looks have been short because he hasn't done squat when given the opportunities. Not screwing up doesn't count as a plus either. He needs to find a way to work hard every shift with or without the puck, watching the Kings today was such a treat because the young guns like Toffoli and Pearson had clearly bought into a defense first mentality which lead to increased offense and possession. I think Torts said it once but the best thing Kassian can do is to observe a guy like Higgins. He doesn't have close to second line talent but he's there because he works his ass off to create his own opportunities and it's paid off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion Phaneuf Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 That's not right. Kassian didn't get a shot when he played well, and did great in few games with the Sedins, Sort of what I was getting to in my post (didn't impress enough for shotgun with twins in short stint but we didn't get to see him on the 1st line for long) Like I said, he should get his chance this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Being the 3rd Sedin isn't his niche he needs to find his spot in the bottom 6 first then keep contributing from there. Tiger Williams scored 35 for us one year and was a +4 if Kass can find that neighborhood I'd be happy even 20 plus goals be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimp C Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 0 minutes and 0 seconds of powerplay time last game was a fucking joke, no idea what Desjardins is doing here. If you're gonna put the guy in the bottom 6 that's one thing, but if you're not even gonna give him second unit powerplay time, then I have to question your thinking process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimp C Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 If he puts together 2-3 more good games in a row on the 3rd and 4th lines, we have to try him on the 2nd line with Bonino for 10-15 games. These are the growing pains with young players, but its something you have to do to allow them to grow to a better player going forward. This could jeopardize our playoff situation though, if he plays badly on that line (which I don't think will happen). This is the reason why I think the "stay competitive and try to make the playoff" method instead of a full rebuild is stupid, because there's a good chance that in the end we won't be able to get the most out of all our young players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinphase Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 It's a process This just made me miss AV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NexusRift Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Three things. 1: Quite honestly, he hasn't looked anything like a top six forward so far this season (and going back to preseason). You have to earn your spot.. 2: After the Sedin line, our lineup is fairly interchangeable, and all of the lines seem to be getting their share of ice time. Just because he's on the "4th" line doesn't mean he's going to get 3 minutes of ice time, or that he's not going to have quality linemates. 3: He'll get his chance. Considering what our lineup looks like after the Sedin line, it's fairly obvious that he'll get another shot at playing a "top six" role. #1. Agreed. He may yet be the power forward we would hope he will become, but he's obviously got his work cut out for him. Someone mentioned earlier of young power forwards making impacts right away in the NHL? Well.....Kass is not as gifted with talent as the OV or Stamkos' of the hockey world. He'll be a late bloomer. #2. Seems the one and only constant is the Sedins on the top line. Pretty much post WCE days it has been such. Even when Kesler was still a Canuck did the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th lines interchange. And often, I might add. That being said, I'm comforted that this season we have enough player depth to roll four lines. However, the question begs to be asked, "Are our four lines competitive enough against the upper echelon teams. Particularly, the California teams. #3. Yeah. He'll get his chance. Other than the Sedin/Virbata line, it's way too early in the season thus far to make any kind of decision regarding line combos for 2nd, 3rd, and 4th. New players, new management and coaching staff, well.......let's give it a lil' more time shall we. Only been two games so far. Go Canucks Go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 He's got third liner skill with third liner IQ. And you know what? That's just fine no everyone needs to be top 6. Our top 6 is looking the best we've seen in years. Let him learn the game, if he can, at a nice and steady pace. People need to get over the trade. Both GMs involved are gone. Move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimberWolf Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 I am all for short leashes as long as it's equal with every player. History has shown me that this team doesn't believe in that.Kassian is trying to be a good teammate but it would probably be better for his career to ask for a trade. We could get a defensive scrub back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 I am all for short leashes as long as it's equal with every player. History has shown me that this team doesn't believe in that. Kassian is trying to be a good teammate but it would probably be better for his career to ask for a trade. We could get a defensive scrub back. It would be better for his career if he just worked harder and put in more effort, that's all anyone's asking. Everyone just stop with the kass hasn't been given the chance he deserves, he in the spot he should be till he learns what it takes to be a top six player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyking Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 I'd like to see Burrows - Bonino - Kassian, bump Higgins back to the third line. Hansen off the team to make room for Jensen. then jensen plays 8-10 mins a game on the fourth line. There will be no benefit for him playing on the fourth line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 2 games in and he is trade bait by some, hurt in preseason but still has a goal. Maybe he is playing through a minor injury and WD is limiting his ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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